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Started by dreb13, October 22, 2015, 03:16:38 PM

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Dyna

Quote from: ArMaP on October 28, 2015, 10:01:42 PM
Or someone that already watched the videos could tell me. ;)
I suppose people like the Maasai should all be dead, as they have a carnivore diet.  :)
Not a chance I am going to spend more than 3 hours watching videos.
Good point people can live on many diets some extreme but I think their diet has been misrepresented.

QuoteYes, far from eating nothing but milk, blood, and meat at the turn of the twentieth century, Masai women were coming into the village with caravans full of bananas, corn, and sweet potatoes every three to six days!
They cooked sweet potatoes (Ipomea batatas) in water with a little steppe salt, drained them, mashed them with a whisk, and stirred in fresh milk.  They cooked unripe dried bananas (Musa paradisiaca) in water, drained them, and stirred in milk and butter.  They cooked beans with salt, but corn without salt.  They cooked yams  (Discorea abyssinica) and taro in salted water, and cooked sorghum into a thick porridge and lightly salted it afterwards.
In addition to their strongly intoxicating home-brewed honey beer, the Masai also purchased much milder beers from the surrounding tribes made from bananas, millet, corn, or sorghum.
- See more at: http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/cmasterjohn/the-masai-part-ii-a-glimpse-of-the-masai-diet-at-the-turn-of-the-20th-century-a-land-of-milk-and-honey-bananas-from-afar/#sthash.IBbmWzJU.dpuf

QuoteThis indeed appears to be the case.  Among the British respondents in the National Child Development Study, those who are vegetarian at age 42 have significantly higher childhood general intelligence than those who are not vegetarian at age 42.  (Childhood general intelligence was measured with 11 different cognitive tests at three ages before 16.)  Vegetarians have the mean childhood IQ of 109.1 whereas meat eaters have the mean childhood IQ of 100.9.  The difference is large and highly statistically significant.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005/why-vegetarians-are-more-intelligent-meat-eaters ;D
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ArMaP

Quote from: Dyna on October 29, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
I think you should ask if beef grown in a lab would be "less' harmful, there is no longer anything natural about most meat products people eat today.
Once again, the fact that that may be true in the US doesn't mean that it's true in the whole world.

ArMaP


ArMaP

Quote from: Dyna on October 29, 2015, 06:23:45 PM
Very true but I don't see a return to the family farm unless the whole earth has a disaster and has to start over.
I agree, but having an example of a working and more ecological model is the first step in creating other models.

QuotePortugal imports beef
Portugal imports most of the food it consumes.

QuotePeople there are concerned also it seems but I can see there is more human raising of the animals for the non-imported meat.
People in the EU, usually, are more concerned with the quality of their food and with an ethical treatment of the animals, that's why the use of hormones was forbidden in the 1980s, the pressure from consumer groups was stronger than the pressure from the producers.

ArMaP

Quote from: Dyna on October 29, 2015, 06:51:51 PM
those who are vegetarian at age 42 have significantly higher childhood general intelligence than those who are not vegetarian at age 42
Sorry, I don't understand what that means, can you explain it? ???

I'm just an omnivore. ;)

space otter



can you explain it? ???


I think it means they have bigger brains and are therefore non religious

but hey.. what do I know  I just read stuff on here
bwhahahahahahah

sorry to anyone truly invested in this topic..i'm having one of those weird humor daze

Dyna

Quote from: ArMaP on October 29, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
Sorry, I don't understand what that means, can you explain it? ???

I'm just an omnivore. ;)
:( I could help you with that handicap. ;D
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slander becomes the tool of the loser.
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Dyna

Quote from: space otter on October 29, 2015, 10:09:32 PM

can you explain it? ???


I think it means they have bigger brains and are therefore non religious

but hey.. what do I know  I just read stuff on here
bwhahahahahahah

sorry to anyone truly invested in this topic..i'm having one of those weird humor daze
;D
Actually brain size may not indicate intelligence ;D
https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter
Guess that makes the USA empty headers ;D
of course Religion has little to do with God.

QuoteGallup International: their 2012 poll found that 13% of respondents were "convinced atheists" and their 2015 poll indicated that 11% were "convinced atheists".[4][5] In Scandinavia and East Asia, and particularly in China, atheists and the nonreligious are the majority.[5] Of the global atheist and nonreligious population, 76% reside in Asia and the Pacific, while the remainder reside in Europe (12%), North America (5%), Latin America and the Caribbean (4%), sub-Saharan Africa (2%) and the Middle East and North Africa (less than 1%).[3] In Africa and South America, atheists are typically in the single digits.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism
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ArMaP

Quote from: Dyna on October 30, 2015, 12:12:35 AM
:( I could help you with that handicap. ;D
You could, if you could explain it.

ArMaP

After re-reading the article, their conclusion is that smart children are vegetarian at 42, but they do not say if those people are still smart at 42.  :P

I don't think the data they used is available in the Internet for free, but I found some related data that says that of those that said they were vegetarian, 2.3% were vegan, 54.9% also eat dairy products and 41.2% also eat chicken and/or fish.

zorgon

Statistics can be manipulated to support any concept :P


Somamech

#71
Australia is a really Grand Example of Land Clearing for Agriculture.  Just come look at the bloody place.

You do not need any science to tell you this or that.  The degradation through land fell is quite self evident.. Do you Know science! If you do look at my Dad's farm compared the Neighbor's for soil biology.  Any Scientist worth their charge should know soil biology is Key!

I do it on my Dad's farm... The more tree's we plant, the more wildlife we see and the better the soil become's   and the happier we are!

Why this scenario of strip mining nature these day's is even considered normal is sorta really stupid! No left or right.. Just common frigging sense!

Dyna

Our self centered and greedy attitude toward this planet will be the destruction of it. It saddens me greatly that all we think of is what we want and what we enjoy and never concern ourselves as to what that does to the overall .

We tend to think of the wealthy only as the greedy consumers but we are all a part of the degradation of our wonderful planet.
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slander becomes the tool of the loser.
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ArMaP

Quote from: Somamech on December 23, 2015, 03:25:36 PM
Why this scenario of strip mining nature these day's is even considered normal is sorta really stupid!
The problem is that they look for quantity, not quality or sustainability.

zorgon

NEED MONEY NOW!!! 

SCREW THE FUTURE I WILL BE DEAD!




Though looks like he is planning to live forever

DAVID ROCKEFELLER'S SIXTH HEART TRANSPLANT SUCCESSFUL AT AGE 99
http://www.donotlink.com/framed?697001

::)

Yeah yeah I know its not true :P

But the point is that this is the mind set of these old fossils