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Interesting points here, but we as a collective will win.

Started by biggles, April 11, 2017, 04:08:39 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: biggles on April 13, 2017, 09:48:27 AM
But we have free will honey, whether it is childish or not, we can still do it; even if people don't agree.  I do it.  ;D
Sure we can, but we are not alone, and I think we should remember that it may make people have a wrong interpretation of our intentions and/or way of thinking.

Obviously, if we don't want to be taken seriously, then we can do whatever we want and ignore the consequences. :)

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on April 13, 2017, 04:06:57 AM
Because of My keen disdain for the man.

You don't even know him :P You just base your misguided beliefs on what you hear on the internet :P

trump was our last hope whether you believe it or not, whether you like him or not, he really wanted to FIX things..

But he soon found out that a president is only a figure head to wave at the cameras and kiss babies.

Once Upon a Tyme ONE man could make a difference... those days are long gone


space otter




Quotetrump was our last hope whether you believe it or not, whether you like him or not, he really wanted to FIX things..

really..?
it that why he golfs 5 days out of 7 after complaining that obama golfed too often
and he has cost us more in travel in under 100 days in office that obama cost in 8 years..really our last hope at what ?
total bankrupcy.. that i wold believe ...he's good at that.. he has even boasted about he gets rich from bankrupcy

you have drunk the coolaid my friend..


The Seeker

Quote from: space otter on April 13, 2017, 11:07:53 PM


really..?
it that why he golfs 5 days out of 7 after complaining that obama golfed too often
and he has cost us more in travel in under 100 days in office that obama cost in 8 years..really our last hope at what ?
total bankrupcy.. that i wold believe ...he's good at that.. he has even boasted about he gets rich from bankrupcy

you have drunk the coolaid my friend..
I would like, since you are very good at putting numerous things together, to see a list of every vacation and costs by Obama followed by a list of Trumps

Everyone moaned about Obama the 8 years we had to set back and watch him butcher the country; yet you won't let his replacement even get past the first three months...

::)

Look closely: See clearly: Think deeply; and Choose wisely...
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space otter

#34

well seeker no need for me to do it.. it's already been done





https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/22/trumps-family-trips-cost-taxpayers-nearly-as-much-in-a-month-as-obamas-cost-in-a-whole-year/#1ae70c7336e4



https://www.change.org/p/newyorkers-refuse-to-pay-over-1m-a-day-for-trump-s-family-to-live-in-nyc
The New York taxpayers refuse to pay over $1 million a day so she can stay. If this decision has been made, between the two of them they should be the ones to pay for it. Not New York taxpayer dollars that could be used on roads, schools, transit, sanitation, new jobs and other expenses that the city has.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/eric-trumps-trip-to-uruguay-cost-taxpayers-97830-in-hotel-bills/2017/02/03/ababd64e-e95c-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.28238f18b99d
Eric Trump's business trip to Uruguay cost taxpayers $97,830 in hotel bills alone


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/paying-president-trumps-travel-security-costs/story?id=45572927

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/02/trump-family-travel/515874/
Why the Trumps' Travel Expenses Matter
Every previous first family took vacations. No previous first family profited off of them
.


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328203-trump-on-pace-to-spend-more-in-first-year-on-travel-than-obama-did-in

BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 04/10/17 08:45 PM EDT

Trump on pace to spend more in first year on travel than Obama did in 8 years
President Trump is reportedly on pace to spend more on travel during his first year in office than former President Barack Obama spent on travel during all eight years he served.

The president's trips to his private club in Florida during his first 80 days in office have cost more than an estimated $20 million, according to CNN.

A four-day trip the former president took to Florida in 2013 cost the Secret Service and Coast Guard $3.6 million, according to a 2016 Government Accountability Office report. That trip was similar to those Trump has taken to Florida.

As of Monday, Trump has been at his Mar-a-Lago resort for a total of 21 days, which could cost an estimated $21.6 million.
During his eight years as president, Obama spent nearly $97 million on travel, CNN reported, according to documents reviewed by Judicial Review. The travel costs included both personal and work trips.
According to CNN, Trump's frequent trips to Florida will likely come to an end after May because of the weather.

But some think Trump will instead make trips to Trump Tower in New York City, where his wife and youngest son, Baron, live. People also expect the president to go to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster Township, N.J.

Before being elected president, Trump often hit Obama frequently for his vacations and for the time he spent golfing.

In 2011, Trump tweeted: "The habitual vacationer, @BarackObama, is now in Hawaii. This vacation is costing taxpayers $4 milion [sic] +++ while there is 20% unemployment."

In another tweet later, he said: "President @BarackObama's vacation is costing taxpayers millions of dollars----Unbelievable!"

http://fortune.com/2017/02/22/trump-security-mar-a-lago-cost-taxpayers/
Trump's Mar-a-Lago Trips So Far May Have Cost Taxpayers Up To $10 Million

https://www.popsugar.com/news/How-Often-Does-Donald-Trump-Play-Golf-43359200
Since taking office just over nine weeks ago, Donald Trump has made a trip to a golf club 12 times. Yes, 12. As the president arrived at the National Golf Club in Virginia on March 25, NBC editor Bradd Jaffy shared the startling statistic on Twitter.


they can't all be fake news now can they.!

and we haven't even touched how the country has been discounted by this group who has to change the rules to get anywhere

whose fist day of business was to eliminated the ethics.
changes after huge swell of protest

and we haven't even started on the russian bullsh it..
the election was fixed alright but not by the dems
treason is a word that should be used

and now they are dropping bombs..do you know what they cost?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-how-much-it-will-cost-to-replace-the-tomahawks-used-in-syria-2017-04-07
It could cost about $60 million to replace the cruise missiles that the U.S. military rained on Syrian targets Thursday night.

Each Tomahawk missile, made by Raytheon Co. RTN, +0.26% likely cost $1 million, according to experts.

The U.S. used 59 of them on a Syrian air base in response to the Syrian government's chemical-weapons attack that killed scores of civilians earlier this week.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/04/13/Heres-How-Much-Mother-All-Bombs-Costs
April 13, 2017

The United States Defense Department likes to show off. After proving it can move with the quick strike capability of a cobra as it did when it launched 59 tomahawk missiles at a Syrian airfield, the Pentagon on Thursday decided to up the ante by showing its muscle.

They dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb against ISIS in the Nangarhar Province in Afghanistan. The GBU-43B known as the Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) or the Mother of All Bombs, is a 20,000-pound monster. It took $314 million to develop and has a unit cost of $16 million




of course to pay all that we need to eliminate health care for the poor
and equal pay for women
and a whole bunch of other things
can't wait till they bring back the draft  to fight
that is if they haven't pulled out the nukes


yeah we needed change but not this kind


i totally apologize for going political...but i feel i was provoke with all the snide comments  that have been made..however this is the last i post on politics


we're hear now and have to live with it... do you feel better yet...
i don't


the words and action  of shelter in place might be sooner that we're ready for



zorgon

Quote from: space otter on April 14, 2017, 03:04:39 AM
they can't all be fake news now can they.!

Well actually... yes they CAN  They were ALL FAKE NEWS when they reported against Obama :P

Quoteand we haven't even started on the russian bullsh it..
the election was fixed alright but not by the dems
treason is a word that should be used

Russians had nothing to do with that  I am really surprised your still believing that crap  Sigh.... oh well  Obama and Hillary must have used some kind of mond control ray in this timeline  I just don'y get it. How many times did Hillary have to say "... the nuclear option is definitely on the table" against Iran and Russia before Liberals will even address it? So far they tend to just ignore it entirely... Sheesh  i guess starting a nuclear war is FINE with them huh?

I don't get it  And i hate Kool Aide :P

Quoteand now they are dropping bombs..do you know what they cost?

Yeah they are expensive  That is how America does business  Make bombs, drop them on somebody, then go send Haliburton in to fix up the place for a hefty feww... then drop more bombs

Obama is the only president who dropped bombs EVERY DAY of his 8 year reign of terror. But that doesn't seem to matter either... because Obama was such a nice  chap 

::)

Meanwhile in EGYPT






Quotei totally apologize for going political...but i feel i was provoke with all the snide comments  that have been made..however this is the last i post on politics

Good  at least until next time :p


Quotewe're hear now and have to live with it... do you feel better yet...
i don't

Well actually I haven't notice much change to anything in Nevada since Donald took over from omama  except that we now have legal MJ and that tax money will go a long way to pay for things here But then wa already don't have state income tax thanks to the casinos :D

So yeah  I feel BETTER  I know that no one will be nuking Russia  I LIKE Russia  and i don't know why you don't They never were our enemy EVER  It was always just a game and still is

In the meantime what happens in the Middle East doesn't much effect me because they were killing each other over religion there for over 2000 years long before America was even a concept so I don't see it ending anytime soon.

Perhaps one day we will be over run by Islam... That is a very likely possibility at this point but until then nothing much has changed around here

Phedre



Lot's of people love their own beliefs  ,as long as they are theirs.

This article has a little something for every body,Conservatives (the Trump way) as well as Globalists for in fact , they are the only 2 parties of concern at this time. If you feed at the "Church of the Democrate or the Republican "you will be lost (out dated). And for those who have given up on "Thinking", the CNN article is telling you that Obama and Susan Rice have commited felonies at the very least, with 5 year jail times. All this just to "Pin the tail on the Trump" which just hasn't worked for them, mainly because "nothing" is there, or you would have Obama Back In The White House by now , Dictating

This article quote is from CNN

Judge Napolitano Vindicated? British Intelligence Was Used By Obama Administration to Obtain FISA Warrants On Trump Team...

Quote from CNN

However, today CNN is confirming much of the construct for what Napolitano was previously saying:

CNN – "British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.

The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.

The European intelligence agencies detected multiple communications over several months between the Trump associates and Russian individuals — and passed on that intelligence to the US. The US and Britain are part of the so-called "Five Eyes" agreement (along with Canada, Australia and New Zealand), which calls for open sharing among member nations of a broad range of intelligence. (read more)"


Against the backdrop of President Obama's National Security Advisor Susan Rice finally admitting she was the White House entity who unmasked the names of U.S. people contained within U.S. intelligence reports, the prior substantive concerns of Judge Andrew Napolitano appear confirmed.

It would appear the justification for the early 2016 President Obama surveillance program was, in part, constructed by utilizing information from British intelligence sources.


Excellent Story and Timeline Given
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/13/judge-napolitano-vindicated-british-intelligence-was-used-by-obama-administration-to-obtain-fisa-warrants-on-trump-team/

space otter

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edit to remove comments..not needed

Amaterasu

Quote from: ArMaP on April 13, 2017, 09:21:36 AM
To me, that way of doing things only makes you look bad, as it sounds like a childish way of protesting.

Ok.  [smile]  Frankly, I have zero concern about what You choose to pick up from that.  It makes Me feel better not acknowledging that puppet's adopted name ("real" name is Drumpf).
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on April 13, 2017, 10:43:16 PM
You don't even know him :P You just base your misguided beliefs on what you hear on the internet :P

trump was our last hope whether you believe it or not, whether you like him or not, he really wanted to FIX things..

But he soon found out that a president is only a figure head to wave at the cameras and kiss babies.

Once Upon a Tyme ONE man could make a difference... those days are long gone


LOL!  The script has You suckered in to thinking the play They put on and sell Us as "reality" is indeed reality.  He SAID He wanted to fix things because that was the script to get People beLIEving.  Having "hope."  He did not "learn" anything.  He knew the script from the start.  Once upon a time the psychopaths took over this planet and began putting on a play to keep Us beLIEving We have any say in how the play flows.  They keep that script running (successfully) to this day.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: space otter on April 14, 2017, 03:04:39 AM

and we haven't even started on the russian bullsh it..
the election was fixed alright but not by the dems
treason is a word that should be used

and now they are dropping bombs..do you know what they cost?


The "elections" were "fixed" by the investors (the psychopaths in control) in the corporation, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, who are NOT going to let Us choose Their CEO.  The "russians" are part of the script to divide Us to keep Us conquered.  Putin is an actor on the LITERAL world stage as much as Grump, May, Netanyahu, Trudeau, et al.  They are ALL playing out the script the psychopaths in control compensate Them for playing.  And the psychopaths in control are VERY into numerology and gematria, so it's no coincidence that We sent (or were TOLD We sent) those missiles into Syria on the 100th anniversary of the US entering WWI.  They have Albert Pike's third WW in the script and are putting out the pretext to it now.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on April 14, 2017, 04:44:36 PM
Ok.  [smile]  Frankly, I have zero concern about what You choose to pick up from that.  It makes Me feel better not acknowledging that puppet's adopted name ("real" name is Drumpf).

Seems to me YOU are part of the problem :P  Your answer to everything is "The psychopaths in control"   and your solution is "Give everything to everyone FREE"  :P

Kinda like a broken record at times [smile]