Is NASA Hiding Something? And What Is It?

[The Seeker]

This ball of rock and water we call home is 14 billion years old; many civilizations(at least 4) came before us, and who knows how many more will follow...

The problem is no one can see past the here and now, which is just one of many stops on the journey...

it's all good 

[biggles]

This ball of rock and water we call home is 14 billion years old; many civilizations(at least 4) came before us, and who knows how many more will follow...

The problem is no one can see past the here and now, which is just one of many stops on the journey...

it's all good 

True Seeker, they can hypothesize, but that's it.

[thorfourwinds]

"This ball of rock and water we call home is 14 billion years old"

Hi Seeker,
I'm quite surprised rdunk hasn't popped in to correct you.     

So the creation of Adam and Eve was the beginning, there was no death until Adam sinned, and Eve was the mother of all living. This makes it pretty easy. We just have to add up the dates.

Adam was 130 when Seth was born (Genesis 5:3).

Seth was 105 when Enos was born (Genesis 5:6).

Enos was 90 when Cainan was born (Genesis 5:9).

If you go through the Bible and add up the dates, it is not that hard to do, you will get a date of about 4,000 B.C. for the creation.

So, according to the Bible the earth is about 6,000 years old.

[Irene]

 

[rdunk]

I don't read the Bible; But I know enough to know that it says "No One Knows the Time of the End."

Those above should know this by rights.

I watch a bit of the "debunking', and thought it was pretty poor!

Relative to "No one knows the time of the end", I will post a video that does quite well in addressing this thought specifically. It discusses the differences in what Jesus said about the end time/Rapture when he was human vs what he said about it after his resurrection.

[rdunk]

This ball of rock and water we call home is 14 billion years old; many civilizations(at least 4) came before us, and who knows how many more will follow...

The problem is no one can see past the here and now, which is just one of many stops on the journey...

it's all good 

One thing for sure, God spoke all that exists into existence, except man.......and he made man from the dust of the Earth, and he made woman from Adam's rib! Of course, "all that exists" could include whatever it takes to make this Earth appear to be 14 billion years old, including whatever artifacts and archeology, if he wanted it that way - to confound the wise!!

Of course, isn't the 14 billion years related to the thinking of the "big bang" in that,  that 14 billion light years is simply about as far as we can see out there?? Well, if there were to have been a big bang from a single point of beginning, would not there be a giant spherical blank in the cosmos about 28 billions of light years in diameter?? if everything were going away from the center of the big bang, every light year that passes, the Spherical hole would just get bigger and bigger wouldn't it?? So, if right now we can see 14 Billion light years distance from the big bang, then Earth's distance from the point of the big bang would be:

*14 billion light years from the center point of the big bang to the edge of the spherical blank area
*14 billion light years from Earth to as far as we can see backward, whatever direction that might be
*X-teen billions of light years from the furtherest point we can see back to, to the leading edge of the spherical blank area.

So, that such analogy would suggest that Earth is actually 28 billion years old, plus an unknown additional billions of years. I am not saying that it is, just say'in that if one believes in the big bang "theory", then there are a lot more years to be noted than just 14B!  

[Irene]

Can't sleep, so -

Age of the universe estimated to be 14+ billion years old.

Age of Earth estimated to be 4+ billion years old.

[zorgon]

...many civilizations(at least 4) came before us, and who knows how many more will follow...

That is correct  We are the Fifth civilization on this planet... and in Stargate SG1 we discover we are the Fifth Race, still barely out of the cradle  and the other 4 old races are still out there waiting for us to grow up

[biggles]

That is correct  We are the Fifth civilization on this planet... and in Stargate SG1 we discover we are the Fifth Race, still barely out of the cradle  and the other 4 old races are still out there waiting for us to grow up

Hope springs eternal.

[ArMaP]

Of course, isn't the 14 billion years related to the thinking of the "big bang" in that,  that 14 billion light years is simply about as far as we can see out there??

If I'm not mistaken, the (almost) 14 billion years is the result of two things, the distance to the farthest known object in the universe and the rate of expansion of the universe.

Well, if there were to have been a big bang from a single point of beginning, would not there be a giant spherical blank in the cosmos about 28 billions of light years in diameter??

No, thinking of the big bang as an explosion is a common mistake, resulting from the use of "big bang" as a name for the theory.

What the theory says is that the universe is expanding, not exploding.

An analogy is that if the universe at the time of the big bang was a marble, the big bang would have been the sudden start of the expansion of the marble, with every particle of the marble getting farther and farther away from each other, so the marble would keep the same matter while getting bigger and bigger.

[micjer]

...and could that marble be a black hole or holes in another universe/universes?



When matter/light is consumed by a black hole, where does it go?  Perhaps into another universe.  Black holes continue to consume and universes continue to expand.




Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

[ArMaP]

When matter/light is consumed by a black hole, where does it go?  Perhaps into another universe.  Black holes continue to consume and universes continue to expand.

Or black holes don't consume anything and just keep on getting more and more massive, until they attract each other, join all in a giant black hole that, because of its mass, will start getting smaller and smaller until it returns to the size before the big bang and starts all over again.

[rdunk]

..........Of course, the age of the Universe has nothing to do with the point of intent for this OP!! NASA is either intentionally hiding something, or, they are not!!

Relative to what may be covered in the photo...........as is noted in other videos, Revelation 12 also speaks about "another wonder in heaven - "a great red dragon". It is interesting that the object now mostly covered was formally seen in the IR, and it is RED, and it is seen in the same general area near the Virgo constellation - but now it is covered/hidden??..................Is it intentionally hidden??

ArMaP, did you actually watch the OP video yet, or have you looked for the actual photos discussed in the video??

[ArMaP]

ArMaP, did you actually watch the OP video yet, or have you looked for the actual photos discussed in the video??

No, and that's why my posts in this thread were not related to the thread's topic.

An 11 minutes video from a known hoaxer is not something I want to spend time with.

[rdunk]

No, and that's why my posts in this thread were not related to the thread's topic.

An 11 minutes video from a known hoaxer is not something I want to spend time with.

Hoaxer or not, his presentations receive a huge amount of attention, and a huge nubber of views, now going for quite a while. Since what he posts is much of what he receives from others, probably will get a "bad egg" every now and then - a marker of the business matter it seems!!

I now have gone to his Google Sky coordinates (as I thought you might do ArMaP - but didn't), and below is the same specific "infrared" pic which he discusses in the OP video. It does show the "black box" covering whatever is behind it. We can see just a small piece of whatever is there, sticking out beyond the edge of the black box.

So, no "hoax" with this photo - just something hidden!!