Large Navies Are Now Obsolete

[Eighthman]

Wow ! I'm overwhelmed by the links and facts you cite. Really astounding.  Clearly, you know what you're talking about.

Duh.    Trillion dollar deficits are now projected for the US without end.  Did the Soviet Union go bankrupt this way? The F-35 is emerging as possibly the greatest disarmament program in history.  Who needs a shooting war when Russia can produce better weapons with a tenth of the budget?

[No_Signal]

American history nor finance seems to be your cup of tea either. If you need a link to prove America is a super power you may want to brush up on your geopolitical history as well. Except for the movie red dawn, which you seem to think is a documentary, no one has ever invaded mainland America. No one is going to fire a subsonic missile at a US naval vessel. If they do, I will personally apologize to you. The fact (Google it) is that nuclear weapons have collected dust in silos and submarines for decades. No one has dropped a nuclear weapon in war since WWII. Common sense does not require links. America is the greatest country this planet has ever seen. I genuinely feel sorry for you and am very empathetic towards your plight in life. I hope our friendship can somehow lift your spirits and help you be happy one day, as we need to be a group focused more on the bigger picture, rather than trivial things like debt and who has the biggest gun. I hope his helps.

[Eighthman]

Utterly dishonest.  You don't even try to truthfully represent what I've said.

Hey, make up any nonsense you wish and accuse other people of it. 

[No_Signal]

I have no reason to represent anything you said. All you seem to Do is say the sky is falling. You are entitled to your opinion. But we can't just pretend Russia all of a sudden is going to start sinking ships bc they have a new toy. Sorry friend, the world doesn't work like that.

[Eighthman]

Another dishonest reply that misrepresents what I said. 

[No_Signal]

Dishonest? Please show an example.

[The Seeker]

Stay on topic and attack the post. Topic is large navies are now obsolete. You stated why you think so, and counter points have been raised; keep it to that.

[No_Signal]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/03/us-navy-weighing-options-for-boosting-fleet-size-as-hostile-maritime-forces-grow.amp.html

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jan/20/donald-trump/trump-says-navy-has-shrunk-dramatically-1991/

On politifact paragraph 11, 12, 13 speaks for itself.

[Eighthman]

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-us-navy-now-facing-its-greatest-fear-obsolete-aircraft-17240

[Eighthman]

https://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-blog-about-military-matters/65448643-are-u-s-navy-surface-ships-sitting-ducks-to-enemies-with-modern-weapons

[No_Signal]

Aug 3, 2016 and Sept 22, 2015 lol

[Irene]

http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2018/03/it-is-official-and-it-is-over.html

The crappy mainstream media pushed flashy headlines about nuclear missiles without fully explaining What Else Putin Revealed - a long range hypersonic missile that can wipe out ships.  No time for AEGIS or fancy shoot down stuff.

Large navies and aircraft carriers are obsolete, if true.  He also mentioned some sort of nuclear powered cruise missile with nearly unlimited range.  No one seems to know what this would be.

Not sure about surface fleets, but I think subs are extremely important to defense strategy.

I'm biased. My first boyfriend was on a diesel, then a nuke. There was a lot he couldn't tell me, but what he could was very interesting.

Don't ask. I don't remember any of it, just that life aboard a sub is fascinating. I do remember he said it was neat to listen to the marine life, like whales.

I imagine aircraft carriers are still important, and littoral craft to patrol our coastlines.