Immaculate Deception

[zorgon]

So... Just as I suspected all along...
UFOlogy is all a big LIE and has been since the very beginning...

... well at least according to 4 Names and his new Skinwalker Ranch documentary..

He says so in his opening comments on ATS

Springer
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 06:00 PM link   

I finally got Jeremy's account issues sorted, he will be joining the discussion(s) shortly, PLEASE don't bombard him questions, he has lots of catching up to do.

Also, please treat him as a friend, seeing as how he is one, ask what you want but civility will be enforced as it is for any member.

Thanks...

JeremyCorbell
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 06:01 PM link   

Houston... there's no problem. Ground Control... this is Major Tom. The transmissions are working. Excited to join you all here. a reply to: Springer

The GUT
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 06:28 PM link   
a reply to: JeremyCorbell

Hiya, Jeremy! Very cool of you to join us here.

Easy & hard at the same time: What has been the single most mind-blowing evidence you've seen while working on your SWR docu?

Probably the most intriguing documentary to come out of phenomenology in a long while. If not ever.

vlawde
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 06:44 PM link   

Aside from your documentary, are there any major reveals about the phenomena and solid evidence that will ever come to light?

JeremyCorbell
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 08:01 PM link   

Thanks a reply to: The GUT! Well, I would say that witness testimony is the most compelling evidence we have. As you are probably aware, the intelligence at the ranch doesn't play nice... and doesn't like being recorded. Hard to believe, but seems to be quite true. So we are left with whatever The Phenomenon wants us to have, and testimony is the most compelling to me personally (better than footage of a light swimming in inky darkness). The most shaking moment for me was to have direct access to the ranch over a long period of time, and to discover just how in-depth the DIA programs were at the ranch. My film will touch on this... it will hint that all the UFO news is misleading... because it all started with Skinwalker Ranch... and the biggest part of the story is yet to be told. I hope that helps. Thanks for the question.

SOURCE:  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg41#pid23562327

So it sounds like the film will have no solid evidence and 'hint' that all UFO material stems from the Ranch ans has all been misleading

With Harry Reid having stated that he doesn't believe in "Little green men" and Roswell Saucers and saying 'it's Demons'...  and Robert Bigelow wanting to use this UFO info to contact his dead Son...

I suspect all we will se is more bullshit and no evidence of anything

Just another tall tale..

BUT this one driven by some powerful and wealthy people

[zorgon]

The GUT
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 08:18 PM link   

Thank you very much, Jeremy, and you just caused my jaw to drop a little---I guess DIA involvement is one of the greatest teasers about the whole thing. Why and to what degree mainly although I'm not gonna ask you to give any of that away here. Any other teasers you might throw out about that would be happily consumed however. Glad to hear it's going to be addressed a bit.

I'll let others try and get you to elaborate on "UFO news is misleading..."

vlawde
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 09:46 PM link   

Is there currently active investigations happening at the ranch? And will the owner eventually reveal themself?

JeremyCorbell
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:26 PM link

a reply to: vlawde Yes there is a current investigation underway... this is now a THIRD scientific study. And I have no idea if the new owner will ever reveal their identity. I understand the desire for confidentiality, and I deeply respect it.

SOURCE:  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg41#pid23562327

[zorgon]

thepixelpusher
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 09:59 PM link   

Jeremy, what is this fading in on the trailer?? Looks like some pillars??? Will the original video source be featured in the film instead of being taken off a monitor?



JeremyCorbell
posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:23 PM link   
a reply to: thepixelpushe

Appreciated..  iTunes on 9/11 and hopefully a great Subscription based platform too!  that's a little Easter Egg from the film. Good eye. Let's see what the film has to offer... 9/11/18

thepixelpusher
posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 01:03 AM link   

Release on 9/11!!?? I thought those pillars looked like the twin towers!

Smugallo
posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:13 AM link   

Hi Jeremy. You're doing gods work in the muddy waters of UFOLOGY. I have a question. From your previous comment, you said that 'all the UFO news is misleading.' Do you mean all the recent UFO news or UFO news in general? Is it safe to assume you don't believe in the 'nuts and bolts' craft given your time with all the material at the Utah ranch?


JohnnyAnonymous
posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 02:06 AM link   
Hi Jeremy, a sincere welcome to ATS.

No question at this time, but am anxiously awaiting to view your Doc.

Johnny

SOURCE: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg41#pid23562327

[zorgon]

So... teasers and a subscription service... buy that film... to get any answers

(but don't expect any REAL info )

You know  Secure Team 10, one of the biggest hoaxers out there is making $7,000 a month on YT and subscriptions... That kid has managers to make so much cash he has a huge house and fancy cars...  but little in the way of truth

I guess TRUTH has little value... they will pay big bucks for the story they WANT to believe...

[The Seeker]

History always repeats itself, Z; shades of carpet baggers and snake oil salesmen in the modern age...

and a hologram of the twin towers faded in the trailer,too


hip boots and waders at the ready...

[zorgon]

Okay it gets worse... seem the whole thing really IS a Circus Side Show billed as the main attraction...

Paddyofurniture
posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 06:53 AM link   
Thanks Jeremy,

Switching to your upcoming Lazar Documentary.

1- did you find any new info on Bob Lazar's Background? Proof of education? Possibly Mr Lazar clearing up the mystery behind his MIT, Cal Tech, etc educational claims.

2 - any attempt to confirm proof of S-4

3. - my greatest fear of the Lazar story is that he is highly intelligent and is rumored to enjoy a good prank or practical joke. Did you sense any aspect that Bob Lazar opinion on his experience has waivered ? what is you opinion of the man and his story now in 2018.

Again thanks for your reply and coming to ATS . Greatly appreciated

Also a interesting part of the story. Less than a year after Lazar is fired from " Navy Intelligence" he is arrested for some involvement with prostitution which is later pleaded down to a pandering charge.



No reply yet to that but there is THIS

vlawde
posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:45 PM link   

That's the standard assumption, that he's way in the background but still owns it. I've also heard that british singer Robbie Williams may be involved in ownership. Some say that it was his private plane that Jeremey etc flew in on that video/photo we've seen

thepixelpusher
posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:51 PM link   
a reply to: vlawde

I didn't realize the ownership was in question. Perhaps Mr. Corbell or Springer could clear that up for us.

vlawde
posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:55 PM link   

I've heard the owner wants to retain their privacy. I do think Bigelow is involved in some way, if not directly.

Springer
posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 12:35 AM link   
a reply to: thepixelpusher

Bob sold it to the new owner a couple years ago (or so), you're way behind on the timeline of events here man.

My friend Robbie Williams is an interested party in as much as he was there with us back in March.

thepixelpusher
posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 01:48 AM link   
a reply to: Springer

Thanks for the update!

Okay so years ago just before I got banned from ATS, this Robbie Williams was also at the James Gilliland Ranch field trip that ATS did renting a million dollar motor home and tones of equipment to investigate the UFO activity at that ranch.  The end results? "Much Ado About Nothing"  Lot of money spent  no results of note.

My comments about that incident and the money ATS had access to was probably what started my way out the door because i dared question it. While I do like Johnny Anonymous and he did stick up for me not being banned... this photo from that field trip pretty much shows how serious these 'researchers' were   That is Robbie Williams on the left...



UPDATE:

I was recently invited to a PRIVATE GROUP on facebook that has only 6 members. I cannot at this time reveal the names but 5 of then are still active at ATS

The group name is Bigelow Background... I have been recording all the posts at Pegasus Coffee Shop (our private work area) so it won't get lost. From time to time some of the material shared there is already in public domain so I will post that here (already have a few times)

Today I posted this :

"I was tuning in on ATS and saw Jeremy pop in for an AMA  Seems it's all snake oil selling to me I was amazed to find out that Robbin Williams is involved in the Skin Walker story.  last i saw him was when ATS went to the James Gilliland Ranch  Still have a photo of him with Johnny Anonymous. And now apparently Bigelow sold the ranch a few years ago according to Springer and Robbie is in on that? "

Will wait for a reply on that one...

[zorgon]

One comment on that YT Video


The Observer
9 months ago
Someone who owns a drone please go to Mt. Adams and show us these entrances plus the statue that he claims exists at the entrance.  I am getting pretty weary of all the hype and no answers.

I agree  we need something other than just Blah Blah Blah stories and no pictures

[bigpappy51]

By the way I talked to Bob Lazar and he said he thinks Barry somehow turned the emitter which turned off the reaction Said he had never been asked that question before. I am only interested in technical data of the case that makes no sense.

Im not real sure how turning what he calls the emitter would do anything. The reactor has to be shut off somehow if you can't physically touch the reactor with you hand how do you turn the reator off? They were throwing golf balls against the reactor at S-4 which bounced off the anti gravitational force.

[fansongecho]

Immaculate Deception - super play on words me thinks' - did Part 2 and 3 ever get released or was it a con job to get into JL home and abuse his trust ??

I wonder who 4 names will be visiting next?  I pinged him on FB to see if Bob L was getting paid for his part of the latest film.. so far no answer -

Still boiling about this guy...

Cheers,
F 

[zorgon]

Immaculate Deception - super play on words me thinks' - did Part 2 and 3 ever get released or was it a con job to get into JL home and abuse his trust ??

4 Names spent 4 years or so at John's house and got a look at all John's files. This was during the time that John was heavily under the opiate pain meds and was not quite with it most days.

4 Names managed to get all of John's passwords for Facebook, etc and even his email account. It took a long time and a lot of hard work to get all that fixed

4 Names also manages to access John's skype and was able to control it remotely so he could eves drop on any conversation in John's den... a fact Sgt R&R discovered when we were over there and 4 names just popped in on the conversation.  Caught us off guard.  This is one of the reasons I will NEVER use skype even though it destroyed Pegasus a few years back

I doubt we will see any more of the films featuring John... I suspect 4 names is waiting for John to pass... before cashing in on it.

4 Names commandeered John's website TheRealJohnLear.com... we tried to get that sorted but only John or Marilee can do that. I guess they forgot about it.  At the party John said 4 names denied it and asked me to provide him the proof again so I did...

Domain ownership is EASY to find as it is by law public record... just need to know where to look.  In this case domain info is found doing a WHOIS search. As that domain is hosted by Godaddy.com  a whois search there provides THIS info:

https://www.godaddy.com/whois
TheRealJohnLear.com

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Now if John doesn't fix this soon 4 Names will have that account after John passes and there will be NOTHING anyone can do

I tried my best... but all I can do is provide information... I have no clout against these guys with all that money and network behind them. 4 Names has weaseled his way into that group and is making big bucks, and John (nor anyone else as far as I can see, is getting a penny out of it.

Frankly I am getting sick of the whole UFO circus....

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I remember that day very well Zorgon. We were talking to John and all of a sudden 'POOF', there's 4 names on John's screen. We (you and I) both turned to each other exactly the same time and knew something was up and I don't know if you remember or not, but while I was there, 4 names came on again, saying he was 'fixing' a problem with John's email.
On our way out Marilee was out in the front, working on her yard and we stopped and told her about 4 names on John's computer. If you remember she was understandably surprised.

That was in 2015, I caught 4 names impersonating John on John's FB page. I called John personally and ask him if it was indeed him on FB. He said I haven't used FB in a very long time, he asked for 'our' help to fix this mess.
You went and did fix that. John was indeed not with it at that time as you said because of the drugs he was on.

After John passes, and he will, 4 names has everything he needs to take control of everything.
I've relayed my concerns to John and Marilee, but that's all I can do.

[zorgon]

Yes 2015  Seems an eternity ago now... I still have all the material we screen capped before 4 Names blocked us. many of John's friends were there at the time and know this to be the truth.  Took some time to get FB to remove all the bogus JL accounts.

He had to write a letter to cox to get his email password fixed before we could get FB to access his real account. Its been okay since then.

It IS important that we document this here so there is a written history..

but as you say, there is little else we can do... it's up to John, Marilee and their lawyers at this point.


At least Gene Huff is on the same page about 4 Names and I hear rumors that George Knapp is having doubts now. I shall see if that goes anywhere.  I suppose i could write George and ask...  the last time I did that he did squash a story on asbestos dust in the valley

(He was planning to do a big story on the need to do something about the asbestos dust in and around Boulder City/Henderson. I pointed out to him that the region is full of actinolite natural rock formations. When actinolite weathers, as it is an asbestos group mineral, it turns to asbestos fibers.  You can't "do anything' about a natural decay of rock formations )

[Maverick7]

Guys WRT the UFO phenomenon and the ET hypothesis we are best served by being of two minds.

1. One mind is that which is open to possibilities. That mind would explore those, but always with a scientific aspect. We would eschew all that is 'too far out' and in the realm of 'fairies, and elves and mythical beings'. We need to ask the 'bottom line' questions.

2. The other mind as to have a 'reference standard' approach. That is to ask the question: "Let's say as a GIVEN that there are no aliens" This would be similar to the Devil's Advocate position. IF there are no aliens and this high strangeness event happened how would we explain it in prosaic terms.

Bottom line questions would be those that are extremely specific so as to avoid an error of generalization. However, though we might entertain the notion of a non-terrestrial act or cause, we would still try to rank the possibilities properly.

The Reference Standard approach (no aliens) is just a 'touchstone' to keep things on the level and prevent one from drifting into 'fandom'.

I could give some examples but suffice it to say cast a wide net but of a fine mesh.

-MaverickO7

[zorgon]

We would eschew all that is 'too far out' and in the realm of 'fairies, and elves and mythical beings'.

Nope can't do THAT... 'fairies, and elves and mythical beings' are REAL for them I have proof 

[petrus4]

Lazaar is about the only person left, associated with the UFO scene, who I don't consider to be entirely full of bovine fecal matter at this point.  The science might be funky and exotic, but it makes sense.

Although, as cool as tunnelling once was, it's actually old news at this point.  The ultimate way of doing things, is direct quantum displacement via entanglement; you set the quantum attributes to be identical for a certain region of matter, and then set the quantum attributes at the outer edges of said region, to be consistent with the surrounding matter at the opposite end.  This probably isn't the best description, but it's how SKYNET did it.



The silly bot was trying to learn how to make forcefields in order to give its' armies energy shielding, but then it found out that the gravitational fields it was generating were sufficiently strong, that they distorted spacetime.  When the Resistance fired bullets into said fields, they weren't being deflected back, but were actually being sent a few seconds into the future. 

Another few years at the drawing board, (not to mention the antimatter power technology SKYNET needed to fuel the darn thing) und voila!  Arnie got to go back and shoot up 1984.  That is also the reason why SKYNET didn't try and use the technology until the end of the War; it needed three major components, (the time machine itself, the T800 Infiltrators, or Arnie's class of bots, and the matter-antimatter collision based power generation) and it couldn't get all the necessary pieces on the board until Connor had already almost beaten it.