three californias..?

[petrus4]

Now we hear that people cannot wear a hat supporting a legally elected President, who is keeping every one of his campaign promises, without being assaulted by the heirs of hippiedom. (People are sh*tting in the streets of San Francisco.) Antifa is advocating violence against the Right and, in some cases, have followed through on it. Blatant lies are disseminated in the media.

I agree that antifa are a problem.  I was initially sympathetic towards Occupy Wall Street, but not once I found out certain things about it.

I think it's pretty much inevitable that America as it used to exist, is headed down the toilet at this point.  The Millennials have no living memory of authoritarianism; they don't know what it is that they are trying to bring into existence.

You need to find out who is behind antifa.  The Left by themselves have no real ability to co-ordinate; OWS and the earlier demonstrations were very unorganised.  You need to learn who is organising them, who is giving them their orders, and who is giving them money.  Someone is putting them up to it.  If you can find who that person is, and remove their ability to command them as a group, (and no, I'm not advocating murder, here; incarceration can often be enough) then you can shut down the group as a whole without the kids involved being harmed.

They are sheep.  Find the shepherds, and you'll break the flock.

[The Seeker]

Here is a good place to start 



The millenials and the snowflakes seeking that "Communist Utopia" need to go live as an immigrant in China for a few years

[ArMaP]

Moderation isn't the answer to these problems. Moderation is why we have this problem. Moderation has produced two recent generations of deluded sociopaths, marinated in Socialist dogma.

Moderation in what?

[ArMaP]

Here is a good place to start 

Can you find that supposed Newsweek article?

[petrus4]

The millenials and the snowflakes seeking that "Communist Utopia" need to go live as an immigrant in China for a few years

It's just the attitude that the other side are the enemy and simply need to be destroyed, that is really scary.  I've seen it among both the Left and the Right on 4chan.  I've also seen decent conservatives and libertarians on YouTube who are worried about what is coming, and I don't blame them.  I am trying not to take sides, because I honestly don't think that either side are exclusively good or evil.

I can remember reading claims that at Charlottesville, the people from opposite political sides were supposedly brought to the event in the same bus.  It reminds me of the degree of rivalry which existed between Hitler and the Communists in Germany; the theory went that he actually arranged that whole thing, in order to put pressure on the democratic system that had previously existed there.

Do any of you remember the Star Wars prequels?  Palpatine was basically depicted doing the same thing there with the clones and the seperatists.  He started both sides, but made it so that only the top most people in each faction reported directly to him; everyone thought that the factional divide was genuine, but in fact it was a ruse the whole time.



I think that's what happened domestically in Germany, and I also think it's happening in America now.

[Irene]

That nasty hag, Maxine Waters, is telling her followers to drive those who support Trump out of public spaces, restaurants, stores, etc.

No one on the Right has ever done that. Never.


There is an ugliness rising from the Left that rivals Nazi Germany in the early days.


It isn't coming from the Right. We are what we always have been. We may be rednecks and gun owners and blue collar, but we're not driving our enemies before us and talking about doing them violence.


This isn't "Star Wars". It's hysteria on a mass scale from the Left.

Edit to add, Seeker is right. I believe Soros is the source of funding for Antifa. Trump should be investigating his finances.

[petrus4]

This isn't "Star Wars". It's hysteria on a mass scale from the Left.

Edit to add, Seeker is right. I believe Soros is the source of funding for Antifa. Trump should be investigating his finances.

It might be Soros; but in my observation of these things, if we think it is someone whose name is already known, then it probably isn't.  People who engage in this sort of thing generally don't like visibility.

Either way, look for who will ultimately benefit, because it won't be the people in the black masks themselves.

[spacemaverick]

It might be Soros; but in my observation of these things, if we think it is someone whose name is already known, then it probably isn't.  People who engage in this sort of thing generally don't like visibility.

Either way, look for who will ultimately benefit, because it won't be the people in the black masks themselves.

Just my 2 cents.  I think both of you are correct.  Soros me the front man taking the heat, (somewhat) but a small group of ultra-rich are behind the scenes pulling the strings.

[Irene]

It might be Soros; but in my observation of these things, if we think it is someone whose name is already known, then it probably isn't.  People who engage in this sort of thing generally don't like visibility.

Either way, look for who will ultimately benefit, because it won't be the people in the black masks themselves.

Agreed. That's pretty much been confirmed by none other than the likes of David Rockefeller.

Remember how his grandfather escaped vilification. He became a philanthropist. It allowed him to maintain the appearance of a good man while financing his personal "interests" under the guise of charity.

[petrus4]

Remember how his grandfather escaped vilification. He became a philanthropist. It allowed him to maintain the appearance of a good man while financing his personal "interests" under the guise of charity.

That's how they always do it.

It would help if more conservatives were willing to acknowledge the fact that if (as I suspect it may) humanity becomes extinct within the next two generations, entrepreneurial Capitalism genuinely will be primarily responsible.  Communism is one of the most devious and malevolent ideologies that has ever existed, and I don't deny that; but there is a legitimate reason why it remains so popular, and contrary to the easy, reflexive answer, said reason is not purely an aversion to work.  If the popularity of Communism was exclusively due to laziness, then the Space Race never would have been an issue.

Neither of these ideologies are going to allow us to survive, long term.  We need something else.  I don't know what that something else is.  My motivation to look for it was what led me to exploring both Permaculture and the Venus Project.  Non-corporate Agorism does have some genuine potential, but the Venus Project sadly turned out to be little more than Communism with a transhumanist coat of paint.