bob lazar new movie trailer

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

i don't know how many of you guys have actually met Bob Lazar or what you think about his revelations
but i have always thought he was a really good showman and a government plant and that he has been able to carry out the story since it's inception.

he was there for such a short time and his story hasn't changed and the gov has never really dissappeared him or spoken on his story ..makes me ponder the unthinkable.. gov plant and one of the really good ones.

you do understand i am not questioning his story...just how it came about and has lasted

ok throw your stones now....bwhahahahahah

No you are entitled to your opinion, just like everyone else. Someone doesn't like it, Tough 

[A51Watcher]

...When viewing a light source from 26 miles away against a bright sky you may get the same effect as below must watch till the end.

Somewhat misleading video and introduction.

The beginning of the video is missing. At the point the video starts the camera is already at full zoom.

So..."When viewing a light source from 26 miles away against a bright sky you may get the same effect" IF you turn the zoom function to full.

Example -




Also, Lazar did not film from 26 miles away. He was a few miles away at most.

[robomont]

No you are entitled to your opinion, just like everyone else. Someone doesn't like it, Tough 

i like his business united nuclear,i can validate the sport model as generally accurate.so two plus's.
he doesnt return emails from nobodies even though my question was legit and respectful,months way back before the movie was announced.so one minus.
ive even notified him of times we were discussing him and asked him to join in.gave him link.many years back when he was out of the spotlight.

he takes high voltage machines seriously and has great products at his business.the only supplier i can find of quality metal spheres.his business itself  is my favorite reason for liking him.the ufo stuff is actually secondary.

thats all i know,so thats how i judge him.

[zorgon]

A review of the movie.

That guy is awesome  LOL  Seems he doesn't think much of 4 names either 

Some comments on that channel


Norio Hayakawa
4 days ago
Excellent review of this meaningless movie, based on Bob Lazar's dubious and largely unsubstantiated claims (the "same old, same old" story with nothing new to confirm his baseless claims) and peddled by debonair raconteur George Knapp.


Gene Starwind
6 days ago (edited)
Corbell is such a narcissistic, subjective excuse of a hype man with more money from his martial arts career than sense.  He claims to be objective, but his "films" and the way he carries himself in interviews prove otherwise.  Lots of promises, and no substance.  I wonder what Lazar thinks about the final product considering he claims to have only agreed to it to get his story that's been skewed straight (whatever that's worth.)


AlienMyth64
4 days ago
Thanks for the review. Sucks that corbel squandered such an oppertunity to make a good documentary with Bob...


Norio Hayakawa
4 days ago
Debonair raconteur George Knapp practically made a secondary career promoting Bob Lazar, and now he is peddling this meaningless movie based on his same old dubious, unsubstantiated claims.



Seems like 4 Names is going to make things a lot worse, rather than give us anything usefull

Aw well... back to my rocks... before the New Agers completely destroy THAT too

[zorgon]

i don't know how many of you guys have actually met Bob Lazar or what you think about his revelations

I have met him a couple times... at John's house... and it seems my name came up recently in another issue 

To me his story seemed sound, but there were serious holes in it that could easily have been filled...  Yes I too am (especially now) of the opinion that the story was a 'controlled release' of information.. I know some here will argue that

But with this current bull poop surrounding the whole Skinwalker Ranch story... I think we are all being taken for a ride...

Seems I ruffled some feathers with my Mercury Forbidden City story.... Hmmm  I will have to look at that closely after the holidays...

One thing that has come out is that Bob did indeed OWN the whore house...   There is another fact too, but I need to hold on to that for now until I sort out the mess...

you do understand i am not questioning his story

Questioning is allowed It's why we created Pegasus. Problem is some people get their knickers in a knot when you ask the wrong questions...

ok throw your stones now....bwhahahahahah

They are no longer called stones... they are now Reiki healing chakra devices    Every stone you google these days the Healing Crystal stuff is at the top of the page  and you have to really search hard for the actual mineral data or locations

This Timeline is so messed up... I need to find the portal fast   

[fansongecho]

LOL @ Z comments - 

So I asked 4 Names on FB last week if it was true that BL was not getting paid - still waiting for an answer 

When I watched the GK & BL special program about S4 although BL is "blacked out" his voice is a dead give-away.. anyone who worked with him would have known it was him.. 

I don't know what to say really about BL? but if I had a chance I would ask him to recall what he saw of the "Aurora" AC that John L described in one of his interviews, If I recall correctly didn't BL say that a man could stand upright in the exhaust jets of the aircraft ?? that is a question I would like to ask him.

Cheers!

Fans'

[ArMaP]

This Timeline is so messed up... I need to find the portal fast   

I suppose you need to find the right crystal first. 

[space otter]

They are no longer called stones... they are now Reiki healing chakra devices    Every stone you google these days the Healing Crystal stuff is at the top of the page  and you have to really search hard for the actual mineral data or locations

This Timeline is so messed up... I need to find the portal fast   

ok way off topic here and i have a whole bunch of stuff i want to say about this (being third degree reiki and stone crazy) but as the christmas cook i'm a bit rushed so i will be back and start a new thread or go post in the one  Z started last

meanwhile blessings of the season to all and big joyous hugs for knowing all of you...thanks  

[Canine]

One thing that has come out is that Bob did indeed OWN the whore house...   There is another fact too, but I need to hold on to that for now until I sort out the mess...

Maybe they were running their own honeypot operation.  Or doing it for uncle sam. I'm getting the honeypot whorehouse vibe.

Bob was setting up a computerized, camera surveillance system. Can't have a decent modern honeypot without that so there is that.

[zorgon]

I suppose you need to find the right crystal first. 

Agreed and trust me I AM seeking them... but the New Agers have blocked the search with Mumbo Jumbo so deep its 10 feet about my head

I will be doing a thread on it soon though  I have some interesting concepts to discuss

[zorgon]

Maybe they were running their own honeypot operation.  Or doing it for uncle sam. I'm getting the honeypot whorehouse vibe.

Bob was setting up a computerized, camera surveillance system. Can't have a decent modern honeypot without that so there is that.

Funny you should say that  The name of the Brothel was Honeysuckle Ranch

Now most people don't know, but outside of Clark County Nevada (Nye County, Pahrump for example 30 minutes over the 'hump' brothels are LEGAL)

I am going to share an email exchange  well part of one because the rest is not relevant at this time 

From: johnlear@xxxxxxxxx.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:40 PM
To: Gene Huff
Subject: mispoken

What I wrote to Ron:

    I am really really tired and getting weaker every day. Bob owned the Honeysuckle Ranch and Gufon never said bob didn't work at LANL/ Either you didn't hear or Gene mispoke/ Gene would never consciously say that.

What Ron wrote to me:

Well I must be getting old and stupid then  because I distinctly heard it and was shocked. Raquel heard it too. Perhaps he mispoke or I heard it out of context.  This is one time I wish there was a recording present 

What is the truth? Condor

Reply:

From: johnlear@xxxxxxx.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:08 PM
To: Gene Huff
Subject: Re: mispoken

They were at my birthday party.

> On December 19, 2018 at 8:48 PM Gene Huff <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.net> wrote:
>
> Condor,
> 
> First, who's Ron and Raquel and where in the world would they ever have heard me speak? I'm not exactly on the lecture circuit. I talked more at your birthday party than I have elsewhere in the past 20 years! Smile And of course you're right. Why in the frig would I ever say Bob didn't work at LANL? I have told the story about Stan Friedman being told that Bob worked AT LANL but Stan instead heard that Bob worked FOR LANL, but I'm not the one who misspoke or misunderstood, that was Stanton. But I can't imagine what else would have been confused with me saying something like that.
> 
> Also, the Honeysuckle Ranch was the name after Bob re-named it. Prior to that, when he first got it, the brothel and it's license were under another name which I can't think of right this moment. I know others have tried to track down the Honeysuckle Ranch before with the State of Nevada and couldn't find it. That's because the State still had it under the other name. Not that it's any of the general public's friging business. What possible difference could it make to them and the story itself?
> 
> Now, on to fun stuff. From some old texts that Jeremy sent to me and Bob and George, I've got a picture or two of Jeremy without his beard and boy does he look like a little rat instead of the Duck Dynasty look he sports now! Then I've got another one which was a halloween picture, but out of context it's just a picture of Jeremy's head with a crazy Charles Manson type look on his face, which might be who he was trying to emulate for Halloween, with a friging SWASTIKA on his forehead! Smile If you can't have fun with that, no one can! Smile
> 
> Gufon

So there you have it...  There is more but I will wait till after New Year when I sort out the Mercury story mess that led to this mess

Seems the only reason the brothel was an issue is because it was in the wrong location but your right  "Honeypot" may indeed be what we are looking at...



'First, who's Ron and Raquel and where in the world would they ever have heard me speak?"

LOL I had introduced my self at the beginning (John had never introduced me to Gene Huff in all these years) and told him I was the one that ran Thelivingmoon.com  When he was speaking, I was standing right in front of him against John's desk .  I guess being a Minion is an invisible despite the fact that I pointed out to him how 4 Names had commandeered Johns Facebook page, email account and was the owner of TheRealJohnLear.com... He acknowledged me even with a reply.

But I guess I am invisible    either that or he was so wrapped up in his story telling he didn't want interruptions

[zorgon]

A review of the movie.

On December 23, 2018 at 7:05 AM Ron Schmidt <standauffish@earthlink.net> wrote:

Review of the new 4 Names Bob Lazar film



Merry Christmas

Ron


On 12/23/2018 1:09 PM, johnlear@xxxx.net wrote:

Absolutely fantastic Dead on!!!! Who was that guy? Thank you for sending it to me.

[zorgon]

Considering how the owner of Dreamland Resort website feels about Bob lazar and Aliens at Area 51... I am surprized they have a Bob lazar section  (I never really looked on their site before)


Here is a snippet:

From netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews Mon May 15 19:32:39 1995

Xref: netcom.com alt.conspiracy.area51:1296 alt.paranet.ufo:25878

From: Gufon@ix.netcom.com (Gene Huff)

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.paranet.ufo

Subject: Re: THE LAZAR FLAWS - Odds and Ends

Date: 14 May 1995 18:08:14 GMT

In <tmahoodD88M7w.1L8@netcom.com> tmahood@netcom.com (Tom Mahood) writes:

THE LAZAR FLAWS - Odds and Ends

1. Good said it was called "The Honeysuckle Ranch". "Omni" reported the investment was so profitable Lazar didn't have to return to full-time employment for several years. However such an ownership was not mentioned in Lazar's bankruptcy papers in 1986.

-Tom,

It was in the process of being changed to the Honeysuckle Ranch when the license was put on ice. I have business cards and even brochures fromt the Honeysuckle Ranch in my office. However, this was not the actual name it was licensed under and the license was in Bob's first wife's name (Carol). The license was put on ice due to an AIDS scare. The claim ended up being unfounded, but by then Nevada had put a moratorium on opening or reopening brothels. For whatever reason, back then, the license also had to be in a woman's name. Anyway, Carol died and the brothel was never reopened, or pursued at all. This could have been worth a lot of money to Bob, yet he simply relinquished it. Where did he get the money to invest in a legal brothel? Why, dad, of course. George Knapp had the same trouble tracking down this brothel. I gave him the actual name of it and everything checked out. I could give you that here, but I don't think it's conducive to proving or disproving anything about Bob's story. I think I covered Bob's lack of respect for those bankruptcy papers in my response to your last post, so I'll refrain from restating that here.-

[Update Note: Since this piece was put out, I've come across other information and witness that seem to confirm the existence of a brothel owned by Lazar - Tom]

>2. Lazar has stated he was driven to S-4 from Groom in a bus over dirt roads. The fact that it was in a bus implies that the road would have to be in fairly decent condition, and certainly not a jeep trail. However, a review of the satellite photo of Papoose Lake, on Lazar's very own poster, shows no evidence of such a road.

-Actually, that road wasn't much more than a jeep trail, but it is there. The disc on the poster covers that road and the road isn't evident once your on Papoose dry lake bed. The poster isn't a fair assessment of the existence of that road. I've seen the original satellite positives, one of which was used to make the poster, and the road is clearly there.-

>3. Lazar said at Rachel in 1993, that when he got on the bus at Groom to go to S-4, usually only Dennis Mariani was on the bus with him. Only occasionally was there one other person. Yet there were a number of others at S-4, technicians, scientists and security. How did they come and go? Why was Lazar brought in at such unusual times that everyone else was already at work? Perhaps they used a different method they did not want to reveal to Lazar?

-Man, you find mystery in the strangest places. Maybe I've just known these answers for so long, they're simply not curious to me. Anyway, Mariani was Bob's personal security escort, that's why he was always around. When Bob first started, they told him that he's be working on an "on call" basis for a while. Because of not working full time at first, Bob correctly did not anticipate much income. So Bob told them he'd have to keep his photo business going during the daytime to survive. They agreed, though if he had stayed in the program it was understood that he'd later go full time and have to get someone else to handle the photo lab. They had planes going back and forth from EG&G to Groom all the time, either carrying workers or ferrying the plane back to get more workers, so this was of no consequence to them. It was the same with the bus. Anyway they let Bob come out then so he could keep his daytime income until such time as he went full time. I'd like to point out that we really have no idea when and how the others at S4 went to work.

Nothing indicates that they even had to live in Nevada. They may have been flown in from California or New Mexico, or even stayed at the Test Site and only went to their respective homes in their respective states on weekends. Who knows? Anyway, this is the reason for the unusually small numbers of people on the bus with Bob and Mariani.

>4. Lazar has said on several occasions that, aside from the security, working at S-4 was a "dream job". He also claims to have had a Q clearance so should be quite familiar with the requirements of working in a highly secret compartmentalized environment. Yet he easily violated all his signed agreements and oaths by freely disclosing information to his friends. He even set up three "group outings" for he and his friends to witness flight operations of what I'm sure Lazar would agree is the most secret program the US has. Why would someone familar with government security requirements not only jeopardize his job, but also his very freedom, to do such a thing?

-I think I pretty much answered all of this in that synopsis I posted a few months back. I can post it again if you'd like. What his decisions required were intelligence and courage, things that elude many people.-

>5. Another part of the tail Lazar relates is that he had in his possession, apparently after he had been dropped from the program, a small quantity of element 115. He says he accquired this from contacts at Los Alamos, where Lazar says the material was machined. Lazar said his house was broken into and the 115 taken. At Rachel in 1993, Lazar added that the 115 was in PRIVATE hands. What is meant by "private hands", and why would the government allow a material capable of a devastating antimatter reaction rest in private hands?

-The government wouldn't allow that if they had a choice or if they knew where it was at. Since it's not radioactive, it's much more difficult to find. I'd personally say it was in "Private Concrete" moreso than in "Private Hands". And that's all I would say. The government would have a difficult time searching for it overtly. What would they say? "We're searching for a heavy element that we haven't shared with the rest of the earth's scientists"? I don't think so. When asked why it was important, would they say "Because we use it as fuel in our extraterrestrial discs"? Again, I don't think so. They're truly between a rock and a hard place and I'm sure some government people somewhere would like to choke the you know what out of Bob Lazar. I'm not confident they won't do that somewhere down the line when he fades into the background and isn't so high profile.-

Gene Huff

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http://www.dreamlandresort.com/area51/lazar/hf-odds.htm

[zorgon]

There is also this  by Tom Mahood

This will likely ruffle some feathers but we are seeking TRUTH, right?



It's a VERY LONG and detailed list....

The Robert Lazar Timeline
As Assembled from Public Records and Statements

Version 1.30, January, 1997

Originally released July, 1994

by Tom Mahood

(Note from 2018: There is a lot of traffic direct to this page via hotlinking or search engines. Be aware this is pretty old stuff. If you have an interest in this topic, I'd suggest you also have a look at my perspective on Lazar's story from the viewpoint of 2018. TL;DR: It's mostly bullshit, the important parts, anyway)

This project began as an attempt to verify Robert Lazar's story of "vanishing records". What was uncovered was not only a multitude of records, but records that portray an individual and story very much at odds with that generally accepted. Some of these records appear to contradict statements made by Lazar.

Every attempt has been made to make this document as accurate as possible. If any discrepancies are found, please direct them to the author for correction in any future versions. Likewise, if there are any readers with additional verifiable, public information, please pass it on for inclusion.

What follows is a summation of statements, interviews and records, arranged in chronological order, providing the framework of what is, by anyone's definition, a most interesting life. Please note the information presented here consists ONLY of public records. While it's highly likely detailed school transcripts (for example) exist, they are considered confidential and may not be released to the general public.

The implications of Lazar's story are tremendous, and if there is even the slightest possibility it might be true, it is worthy of detailed investigation. This information is being put forth as part of that effort, in the hopes it will provide researchers and other interested parties with areas for further study.

A question may come to mind: Could some or all of these documents have been "planted" to discredit Lazar? It is certainly possible, as most things are. However, this would have entailed tampering with many reels of microfilm. Since none of the reels exhibited any splicing in the area of Lazar's records, the only way these records could have been planted would be to replace the entire reel. Also, the master reels from which the microfilms the public uses are made, would have to also be tampered with, even though they are stored in vaults. Furthermore, some of the documents available, such as divorce proceedings, are the actual documents complete with signatures. And throughout the files, the information appears to cross-correlate completely.

http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/the-bob-lazar-corner/the-lazar-timeline/

[zorgon]

And there is THIS from 2018...


Looking at the Bob Lazar story from the perspective of 2018
(Why, oh why, is this still a thing?)

Damn.

Damn, damn, damn!

I really don't want to be writing this as I have way better things to do. I thought I happily left all this crap in my rear view mirror 20 years ago, but apparently not. Recently, I've noted an increasing number of visitors to the ancient Bluefire part of my website , coming from the /UFOs section of Reddit . Seems like they were looking for information on Bob Lazar.

Tracking the links back to Reddit, I was surprised to find a number of current discussions on Lazar and his veracity. Sadly, there were quite a few posts saying how they believed Lazar's story and he was the "real deal". And I'm pretty sure many of those posters were small kids or not even born when all this Lazar stuff first went down years ago (Ummmm....What's a "newsgroup"??). This was all news to me, as I quit following the subject 20 or so years ago when I started my graduate work in Physics and realized the basic science elements of Lazar's tale were something well beyond wrong, and moved in other directions.

I have a great love of subtlety and in hindsight I'm afraid my final Lazar postings were lost on some. I pretty much laid the real story all out in pieces, and sort of assumed people would connect it. I apparently was wrong, and a hammer was required. What follows is the hammer, probably what I should have written 20 years ago, and then I'm done with this damn subject....forever (I can dream, can't I?).

http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/looking-at-the-bob-lazar-story-from-the-perspective-of-2018/

THIS part is interesting... considering what Tom bedlam told me about the particle beam tests at Dugway proving ground...

yeah yeah  I know  but I just reporting the material not writing it

So let me be completely clear: The Wednesday night glowing orbs seen in the skies over Groom Lake by Lazar et al were NOT "craft", they were plasmas generated by operation of a high powered proton accelerator dumping its beam into the atmosphere. And.....Lazar knew this.

Plasma Balls?  Hmmm where have I heard THAT before?