China lands spacecraft on 'dark' side of moon in world first

[fansongecho]

@ArMaP, I am just looking into the Drogue Parachute that was used to assist the Vulcan V Bomber in the Cold war when it was deployed in an emergency - I will get back to you with the values and parameters that it could operate -

What doesn't stack up?? friging loads mate.

@Space, I do try and get at least 3 separate reference points of data when I question what NASA broadcasts as news - I think when it comes to NASA and their space missions, you will believe what you want to..

Laterzzz....

F

[zorgon]

you guys totally crack me up....you all believe in the ufo stuff and how advanced the military is and we have space colonies etc.

and yet

none of you believe  earth humans capable of getting to the moon - on either side

what a group

Well had you been paying attention    the main premise here has been that yes we have spaceships out there but the stuff they are showing us is all BS

But aside from beliefs etc, how about we use some common sense? And investigation?

Those claiming that this photo is indeed on the moon...



Can you

1) TELL ME WHAT CRATER THAT IS?
2) POINT IT OUT ON A MAP OF FARSIDE?
3) EXPLAIN WHY THE HORIZON IS;
   A) SO CLOSE
   B) SO CURVED (CONSIDERING THE ACTUAL DIAMETER OF THE MOON
4) NO HILLS YET ALL APOLLO AND LUNAR ORBITER SHOTS HAVE HILLS
5) NO JAGGED ROCKS ANYWHERE.. CONSIDERING THERE IS NO AIR FOR EROSION



This is EARTH  Mars like desert... we have air  we have winds we have water  and yet the BASALT is still jagged and not worn smooth... and scattered all around the desert



This is MARS  Earth like desert... they have air  they have winds they have some water  and yet the BASALT is still jagged and not worn smooth (cept the two meteorites in front)



NASA says the moon is largely BASALT  and yet we do not see the fields of broken BASALT scattered all over the moon (from either ancient volcanic activity OR impact) we see smooth hills smooth pebbles and dust

[space otter]

well i have been paying attention here and that's why i am laughing...

where did all those photos come from in the first place for comparison

how do you know that anything they post at all is true.. or as close as we/you can get to true

sorry i think i believe more in bigfoot than nasa 
and i do enjoy lookin at the pictures

[ArMaP]

Those claiming that this photo is indeed on the moon...

I am not one of those, but I will try to answer.

Can you

1) TELL ME WHAT CRATER THAT IS?

What crater? The small crater on the image? Do they even have names for all small craters?

2) POINT IT OUT ON A MAP OF FARSIDE?

The closest I could find was this.

3) EXPLAIN WHY THE HORIZON IS;
   A) SO CLOSE
   B) SO CURVED (CONSIDERING THE ACTUAL DIAMETER OF THE MOON

Chang'e 4's landing site is supposed to be inside a crater, so any photos would not show the Moon's horizon but the crater rim.

4) NO HILLS YET ALL APOLLO AND LUNAR ORBITER SHOTS HAVE HILLS

Inside Von Kármán crater?

5) NO JAGGED ROCKS ANYWHERE.. CONSIDERING THERE IS NO AIR FOR EROSION

I think the official explanation for that is erosion by micrometeorites. If that is true then I suppose the erosion would be stronger on the far side, without the Earth's protection.

[fansongecho]

I am confused by your comments Space O, can you clarify please?.. you do trust NASA or you don't trust NASA ?

Why dont I trust NASA?







Chinas Jade Rabbit



Still getting data about the drogue chutes' -

Laterzz,

F

[space otter]

perhaps it is the way i said it..
but i was agreeing with Z..
if nasa shows these photos and they don't make sense or can't be proven to match the data they provide with the photo..
why would you believe anything they say?

i'm not a rock or atmosphere person so i read what Z says and go ok.. more bs


what was making me chuckle is the fact that no one believes what they (nasa) are saying or showing (while still arguing about it)

but at the same time most here believe there are "others from elsewhere" who can get here  so they do believe in the possibilty
but they don't believe we- earth humans can do it
ah crap
how's this for irony.. we think we are smart enough to recognize the bs (on what basis i don't know) but we don't think we are smart enough to go to the moon

i wasn't saying any of it was false only that it made me chuckle
ah  selective humor , i guess

i will go read some vampire romances.. that outta keep me quiet for a bit

[zorgon]

all this info came from . .?? .. the folks you don't believe

Actually no  the rocks on Earth are not from NASA and I can go look at them just outside of town..

..and since I know about rocks , I know what will and won't erode under certain conditions...

The ones on Mars are from NASA and for all I know that was Filmed in Death Valley

Not everything NASA shows is fake... though unfortunately they do so much of it that it is hard to trust them    However there are other space agencies..

Oh wait THEY are lying too and India says Einstein is fake  so there ya go...

back to Earth Rocks... at least I can hold those and look at them

[zorgon]

I think the official explanation for that is erosion by micrometeorites. If that is true then I suppose the erosion would be stronger on the far side, without the Earth's protection.

If that is true... then there must have been billions of micrometeorites between the jagged rocks we saw in Lunar Orbiter photos in the 60/'s and the Apollo photos in the 70's 

[zorgon]

i will go read some vampire romances.. that outta keep me quiet for a bit

Good IDEA

Start HERE

Selene the Moon Goddess and the Mother of Vampires

Selene the moon goddess was a minor figure in ancient Greek mythology.  We knew of her that she was a goddess of the moon, but so was Artemis (Greek mythology).  Most mythologists assumed that Selene was an older moon goddess that was replaced later by Artemis in myth.

The only other significant story mentioning Selene in ancient Greek mythology is that of the Nemean Lion, whom it is said that Selene had great affection for. In more modern myth, Selene is found to be associated with the origin of Vampire mythology.  In this respect she returns to her role as a moon goddess.

Before she was Selene The Moon Goddess, she was a simple human woman named Selene who worked at the Temple of Apollo in Delphi.  It is believed that her sister was the Pythia, or Oracle, of the temple.  Either way, Selene worked as a Maiden of the Temple, who assisted the Oracle and cared for the temple.  Selene was a worshiper of Apollo (Greek mythology), the sun god, originally, until he cursed her true love, Ambrogio, who eventually became the first vampire.

The couple was given protection by Apollo's sister Artemis, the moon goddess, and they moved to Ephesus to worship and serve Artemis at her famous temple there. 

http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/selene-the-moon-goddess.html

[The Seeker]

Armap, look this pic over and tell me what you see or notice in particular in regards to lighting/shadows...

[WhatTheHey]

I have to agree, boots on the ground are a lot more reliable than bullshit on the 'net, especially when the source is the Mostly Shit Network 
Just a sign of these chaotic times we live in, whatthehay, so pop over and talk to Elon Musk, he might ferry you up there when his Dragon X goes there...

Welp! I just got back........ ....and it looks like its really made of green cheese....... and there are aliens there..........but not even a track from any earth vehicles or man made foot prints........Soooooooo. lol

He he he WhatTheHey

[WhatTheHey]

"i will go read some vampire romances.."
Hmmmmmm they must really SUCK....................lol

Happy Nightmares   

[ArMaP]

Why dont I trust NASA?

Could you say it with words?

[ArMaP]

If that is true... then there must have been billions of micrometeorites between the jagged rocks we saw in Lunar Orbiter photos in the 60/'s and the Apollo photos in the 70's 

Are you comparing those 60s and 70s photos with what, the photos from this new Chinese craft?

[space otter]

But aside from beliefs etc, how about we use some common sense? And investigation?

[b
well your statement  on selene needs some common sense and an investigation
so here/s my opinion and  some real facts

Selene

..what you have copied or quoted or just added to is a made up tv movie version not the mythology i was taught way back there in school or what is written in the many many copies of old books i have in my possession


here are a few corrections for you  from on line[/b]

In Greek mythology, Selene (/sɪˈliːni/; Ancient Greek: Σελήνη [selɛ̌ːnɛː] "Moon") is the goddess of the moon. She is the daughter of the Titans Hyperion and Theia, and sister of the sun-god Helios, and Eos, goddess of the dawn. She drives her moon chariot across the heavens.
Siblings: Helios and Eos
Parents: Hyperion and Theia
Roman equivalent: Luna
Symbol: Crescent, chariot, torch, billowing cloak, ...


Selene – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selene
Hecate, Artemis and Selene are one in the same. Artemis is known as the Goddess of the Triple Aspect because she has three identities. Artemis is the virgin goddess of the hunt (Earth form), Selene is goddess of the moon (sky form) and Hecate is the goddess of witchcraft and the underworld (cthonian/underworld form).May 13, 2015greek - What is the difference between Hecate, Selene, Artemis
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https://mythology.stackexchange.com/.../what-is-the-difference-between-hecate-selene-a...
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Selene - Greek Titan Goddess of the Moon - Greek Gods & Goddesses
https://greekgodsandgoddesses.net/goddesses/selene/Feb 7, 2017 - Rather was the child of Titan goddess and god, Theia and Hyperion. Eos, goddess of the dawn, and Helios, god of the sun, were Selene's siblings. Additionally, although the ancients considered Hecate and Artemis counted as lunar goddesses, only Selene was the moon itself. She is said to have driven the moon chariot.




only the names have changed for the country  but most of the myth is the same

my reference (WHICH I DO BELIEVE WAS TOTALLY MISSED)
was meant  to mean:
that here (forum) there can be argument.. beleif vs fact.. or a mix of the two
WHEREAS the vampire romance novels i have seen are TOTAL FICTION and bear no arguments as they are a lone work of an author

i didn't think this forum was in that catagory



edit as i meant to add this definition

Internet forum - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum
An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages. They differ from chat ...





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"i will go read some vampire romances.."
Hmmmmmm they must really SUCK....................lol

Happy Nightmares   

Thanks

but if you read some of the story on the jacket covers a few seem to be quite clever

like the one author who says that the vamps are from atlantis and it was the nano's that made them need more blood
i think i will eventually pick up one of those up to read
no argument will ensue because they are label correctly as FICTION
perhaps forum is a misnomer