The Nimitz Encounters

[ArMaP]

So I went hunting on YT and found the footage he must be talking about at 4:52 -

4:52? I don't see it.

[A51Watcher]

4:52? I don't see it.

Well if you watched the film segment that starts at 4:52 for longer than 3 seconds you would.

[ArMaP]

Well if you watched the film segment that starts at 4:52 for longer than 3 seconds you would.

I watched it for more than 10 seconds and saw nothing like 90 degree turns.

[A51Watcher]

I watched it for more than 10 seconds and saw nothing like 90 degree turns.

Since I don't have to explain ATM, I suggest you watch the video immediately following the one in question where the pilot who chased this thing and took the footage explains in detail what the craft did and when along with the footage, including the radar jamming that occurred.

[A51Watcher]

On May 18th in McMinnville I was able to speak with Cmdr. Fravor and ask him about Z's theory of this being a test to gauge the reactions of the unit and pilots in training by an elite unit with advanced high tech craft.

He response was

A - We don't do testing that way.

and

B - There is no way we could keep tech like that secret for so long.


As you can see by his description in the video above he judges the craft to be 40 ft long, and breaking the laws of physics. 

[space otter]

i caught the last 15 minutes of this show last night and they basically  pushed the idea that the tic tacs  were ours

https://www.history.com/shows/unidentified-inside-americas-ufo-investigation
Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation
New Episodes Fridays at 10/9c


i posted on may 27 about this episode because of the written  hype  bringing it all back up again
but the post got locked for some reason..
anywho the last reply has the vid

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11323.0

[A51Watcher]

Part 2 -

[space otter]

this probably isn't news to you guys who follow this more closely so sorry if it is  a repeat to your knowledge

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/privately-funded-border-wall-forced-open-by-federal-agency/ar-AACTsRo?li=BBnb7Kz

Four years after UFO sightings, and just in time for documentary, Navy updates reporting guidelines for pilots
   Christopher WilsonSenior Writer,Yahoo News•May 28, 2019

The Navy has updated its guidelines for pilots to report unidentified flying objects, the New York Times reported, following a series of mysterious sightings off the East Coast.

The sightings took place four to five years ago, and the article did not explain why the guidelines, originally issued in 2015, were updated earlier this year.

The Navy pilots will be part of a new History Channel series, "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation." The N.Y. Times story, which was widely circulated this week, represented a publicity coup for the network.

The newspaper says pilots based on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt saw the objects — some of which they described as spinning like tops and reaching 30,000 feet — during the summer of 2014 through March 2015 in training exercises off the Atlantic coast from Virginia to Florida. In 2014, a F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot reported nearly colliding with one. Two pilots were quoted by name in the story. They said they began to see the objects after receiving upgraded radar systems.

"People have seen strange stuff in military aircraft for decades," Lt. Ryan Graves said. "We're doing this very complex mission, to go from 30,000 feet, diving down. It would be a pretty big deal to have something up there."

The N.Y. Times story includes grainy video captured by the plane's camera. The Navy adjusted its reporting methods for what the military calls "unexplained aerial phenomena" following the Roosevelt incidents.

"There were a number of different reports," said Navy spokesman Joseph Gradisher, adding that although some cases could be commercial drones, in regard to others, "We don't know who's doing this, we don't have enough data to track this. So the intent of the message to the fleet is to provide updated guidance on reporting procedures for suspected intrusions into our airspace."


A scene from the History Channel's "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation." (Image: History Channel)
There have been other such reports over the years.

In 2017, the same reporters published a story about how former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had pushed for funding for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which investigated unexplained aerial sightings. The program ran from 2007 to 2012.

"I'm not embarrassed or ashamed or sorry I got this thing going," said Reid in a 2017 N.Y. Times interview. "I think it's one of the good things I did in my congressional service. I've done something that no one has done before."

That story coincided with the publication of a Pentagon video showing a 2004 incident in which two Navy pilots investigated an unidentified object off the coast of San Diego, Calif. Cmdr. David Fravor, one of the pilots involved, told the N.Y. Times that he has no idea what he saw but that "it had no plumes, wings or rotors and outran our F-18s."

The Air Force's Project Blue Book, a classified program set up in 1952, counted over 12,000 UFO sightings over its 17-year existence, with hundreds still unexplained. A 2006 report of a disk hovering over O'Hare Airport in Chicago was dismissed by the Federal Aviation Administration as a weather anomaly. The 1947 crash of a high-altitude balloon in Roswell, N.M., inspired generations of conspiracy theories about flying saucers. The unmanned craft was part of a top-secret program to monitor Soviet weapons tests.

Experts say there are plenty of explanations for what the pilots are seeing that don't necessarily mean extraterrestrials are cruising around earth, including atmospheric phenomena and classified military programs from the U.S. or other countries. Although President Trump has shown interest in expanding the military's presence outside the atmosphere via a Space Force, supporters of the initiative say it is about protecting American satellites, not recreating "Star Wars"-type battles with enemy invaders.

Edit to add
sorry  forgot to add this one

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/23/us-navy-guidelines-reporting-ufos-1375290

DEFENSE

U.S. Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs
The service says it has also 'provided a series of briefings by senior Naval Intelligence officials as well as aviators who reported hazards to aviation safety.'

By BRYAN BENDER 04/23/2019 06:06 PM EDT Updated 04/23/2019 08:14 PM EDT

The U.S. Navy is drafting new guidelines for pilots and other personnel to report encounters with "unidentified aircraft," a significant new step in creating a formal process to collect and analyze the unexplained sightings — and destigmatize them.

The previously unreported move is in response to a series of sightings of unknown, highly advanced aircraft intruding on Navy strike groups and other sensitive military formations and facilities, the service says.

"There have been a number of reports of unauthorized and/or unidentified aircraft entering various military-controlled ranges and designated air space in recent years," the Navy said in a statement in response to questions from POLITICO. "For safety and security concerns, the Navy and the [U.S. Air Force] takes these reports very seriously and investigates each and every report.

"As part of this effort," it added, "the Navy is updating and formalizing the process by which reports of any such suspected incursions can be made to the cognizant authorities. A new message to the fleet that will detail the steps for reporting is in draft."

To be clear, the Navy isn't endorsing the idea that its sailors have encountered alien spacecraft. But it is acknowledging there have been enough strange aerial sightings by credible and highly trained military personnel that they need to be recorded in the official record and studied — rather than dismissed as some kooky phenomena from the realm of science-fiction.

Chris Mellon, a former Pentagon intelligence official and ex-staffer on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said establishing a more formal means of reporting what the military now calls "unexplained aerial phenomena" — rather than "unidentified flying objects" — would be a "sea change."

"Right now, we have situation in which UFOs and UAPs are treated as anomalies to be ignored rather than anomalies to be explored," he said. "We have systems that exclude that information and dump it."

For example, Mellon said "in a lot of cases [military personnel] don't know what to do with that information — like satellite data or a radar that sees something going Mach 3. They will dump [the data] because that is not a traditional aircraft or missile."

The development comes amid growing interest from members of Congress following revelations by POLITICO and the New York Times in late 2017 that the Pentagon established a dedicated office inside the Defense Intelligence Agency to study UAPs at the urging of several senators who secretly set aside appropriations for the effort.

That office spent some $25 million conducting a series of technical studies and evaluating numerous unexplained incursions, including one that lasted several days involving the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group in 2004. In that case, Navy fighter jets were outmaneuvered by unidentified aircraft that flew in ways that appeared to defy the laws of known physics.

Raytheon, a leading defense contractor, used the reports and official Defense Department video of the sightings off the coast of California to hail one of its radar systems for capturing the phenomena.

The Pentagon's UFO research office, known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, was officially wound down in 2012 when the congressional earmark ran out.

But more lawmakers are now asking questions, the Navy also reports.

"In response to requests for information from Congressional members and staff, Navy officials have provided a series of briefings by senior Naval Intelligence officials as well as aviators who reported hazards to aviation safety," the service said in its statement to POLITICO.

The Navy declined to identify who has been briefed, nor would it provide more details on the guidelines for reporting that are being drafted for the fleet. The Air Force did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Advocates for treating such sightings as a potential national security threat have long criticized military leaders for giving the phenomenon relatively little attention and for encouraging a culture in which personnel feel that speaking up about it could hurt their career.

Luis Elizondo, the former Pentagon official who ran the so-called AATIP office, complained after he retired from government service that the Pentagon's approach to these unidentified aircraft has been far too blasé.

"If you are in a busy airport and see something you are supposed to say something," Elizondo said. "With our own military members it is kind of the opposite: 'If you do see something, don't say something.'"

He added that because these mysterious aircraft "don't have a tail number or a flag — in some cases not even a tail — it's crickets. What happens in five years if it turns out these are extremely advanced Russian aircraft?"

Elizondo will be featured in an upcoming documentary series about the Pentagon UFO research he oversaw. He said the six-part series will reveal more recent sightings of UAPs by dozens of military pilots.

Both Elizondo and Mellon are involved with the To The Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, which supports research into explaining the technical advances these reported UAPs demonstrate.

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this report misstated the name of Pentagon's UFO research office. It is called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.

[ArMaP]

space otter, I think your first link is for a different article, right?

[space otter]

yikes Armap..
you are correct   
i apologize for that...i had posted that article in the wall thread and screwed it up by not double checking when i started to copy this article

here is the correct link

https://news.yahoo.com/navy-ufos-reporting-guidelines-updated-202515828.html


thanks so much for being who you are with details
i apologize again

[space otter]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/navy-briefs-congress-ufos_n_5d0baf79e4b06ad4d25cf1be?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaHVmZnBvc3QuY29tLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAM_3dRh5OlQvIkPYUqvlkh9vyP1QHSOxdXMQxg5Etl9olNQjiJvSx5fbFy9HAD_QLEeeLJTokz5eTKCtxm8ebS0n_bx1xBioO9iQeGTtrHD4DXy_ExUx6GNYgiDejh2sMc8ssUo4iJNUvmC-pdCqvetN5XknpqUsD-t_L_Q37mlW

POLITICS 06/20/2019 03:05 pm ET
Congress Briefed On Classified UFO Sightings As Threat To Aviator Safety, Navy Says
The briefings reviewed "efforts to understand and identify these threats" to air crew members, a Navy spokesperson said.

By Nina Golgowski

Members of Congress and their staffs were given classified briefings on unidentified flying objects by the U.S. Navy with a focus on the potential threats to humans, a Navy spokesperson said Thursday.

The briefings, held on Wednesday, reviewed "efforts to understand and identify these threats to the safety and security of our aviators," Joseph Gradisher, spokesman for the deputy chief of naval operations for information warfare, told HuffPost in an email.

"Navy officials will continue to keep interested Congressional members and staff informed," Gradisher continued. Follow-up discussions with "other interested staffers" were scheduled for later Thursday.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, was among those briefed, his office confirmed.

"If pilots at Oceana or elsewhere are reporting flight hazards that interfere with training or put them in danger, then Senator Warner wants answers," Rachel Cohen, a spokeswoman for his office, said. "It doesn't matter if it's weather balloons, little green men, or something else entirely — we can't ask our pilots to put their lives at risk unnecessarily."

The Navy in April revised its rules on how military pilots report encounters with unidentified aircraft. Rather than dismissing the observations, the Navy now acknowledges there have been sightings of unauthorized and unidentified aircraft entering military-controlled ranges and airspace in recent years, Gradisher previously told Politico.

Whether any of the sightings involve extraterrestrials remains up in the air.

It's only been in recent years that the government has begun publicly acknowledging investigations into reported UFOs.

tic tac pic
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
An encounter between a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet and an unknown object is pictured after its video was released by the Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program in 2017.

The Defense Department acknowledged for the first time publicly in 2017 the existence of an Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program that investigates reports of unidentified flying objects. The program was launched in 2007 with the help of then-Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), The New York Times reported.

President Donald Trump, in a recent interview with ABC News, said he has also been briefed on unidentified aircraft sightings.

"I did have one very brief meeting on it," he said. "But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly."

Still, this week's briefings on Capitol Hill reflect rising congressional interest, several current and former officials told Politico.

"More requests for briefings are coming in," a current intelligence official told the outlet.

all these are hot linked at source link

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[A51Watcher]

I find Pt 3 the most interesting as it reveals that this UFO activity has been happening for years off the coast of Mexico.


 

[A51Watcher]

https://moviesite.online/series/361639/1/5

[space otter]

thanks for the tip off to watch this


JOHN LEAR : INTERVIEW RE TICTAC SIGHTING & SECRET PENTAGON PROGRAM







at  around 17 m you will hear what many fans of Carrie have wanted to hear for awhile

[space otter]

  before Carrie, of course


John Lear Interviewed by Grant Cameron



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gwEBTNTnCM&list=PLqKU8sL3TilS7JGcj-YSPn4y5Hi6mrdZ2&index=3





hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



Grant Cameron with New Key Evidence in DeLonge Pentagon UFO Disclosure Affair




sorry i don't know why this doesn't copy and play?






https://jimmychurchradio.com/grant-cameron-on-fade-to-black-3/

https://jimmychurchradio.com/grant-cameron-on-fade-to-black-3/

June 19th, 2019


Wilson UFO Leaked Documents



Last week a major document leak was exposed to the UFO community... the documents contained a transcript of a conversation between Eric Davis and Rear Admiral Thomas Wilson that took place in a car behind the EG&G builing in Las Vegas.

The documents were originally sent to researcher and author, Grant Cameron at the beginning of 2019.

Cameron will be releasing more documents this week, and tonight we are going to discuss all of them, their history, who sent them, who leaked them and what they mean to the world.

Grant Cameron has been a UFO researcher since 1975, and was recognized as both the Leeds Conference International Researcher of the Year and the UFO Congress Researcher of the Year. He is a world-renowned expert on UFOs, conspiracies, government cover-ups, and has spent decades watching and chronicling developments around extraterrestrial contact. He is the author of Charlie Red Star.

Website: http://beyondpresidentialufo.com/