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Started by A51Watcher, April 25, 2019, 05:45:47 AM

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Quote from: bigpappy51 on May 22, 2019, 05:16:37 AM
I had this conversation with Bob lazar on August 14 , 2018. Im going to post it typically I wouldnt do this . Anothewr major pwerson on here knows about these emails.. The more technical I got Bob shut down he did however compliment me on questuions he had never been asked before so let me show Bobs response .


Hello *****,

We knew of one way to power down the reactor - but there are almost certainly others.
Rotating an emitter on it axis shuts the reactor off immediately. We did this by hand and I'm sure this is not the normal power-down sequence. It seems to be more of a fault sensing shutdown as there should be no reason for the cylindrical emitter to ever rotate in that fashion. Barry, my co-worker, discovered this long before I arrived on the project.
I don't recall ever mentioning (or anyone ever asking) about the shutdown procedure, so this might be the first time I've described it.
The reactor itself also was clearly load sensing, adjusting its power level depending on the emitter configuration.
How this was sensed (where the feedback loop was and how it functioned) was never found during my time there.
- Bob
United Nuclear Scientific
205 E. Grand River Rd.
Box 523
Laingsburg, MI. 48848
517-919-6019


He did not mention rotating it on it's axis to me, just said turning it, so that is a new detail thanks for that.

If you look at the diagrams you can see the emitters are in the cabin compartment and the amplifiers are in the lower level. I think that's where your confusion is.


eta: And Btw, just because you have gravity amplifier powered up in the lab does not mean it is running full blast so would not be blasting stuff off the bench.

More mistaken assumptions.


A51Watcher



And BTW, before I forget Bob replied to a query if the briefing documents had anything to say about the origin of the craft.

He said "Yes most of them were recovered from archaeological sites dated to 10,000 years old."  :o




bigpappy51

Being baffled is one thing but telling 2 completely different accounts of where the gravity amplifier came from to mae makes no sense at all. We know from Bobs own words and trascrips he was only allegedly at the S4 location 6 times total the W2 he claims is real reflects one weeks pay. So how could he possibly have made such errors if hes so intelligent. Again A51 watcher I am in no way trying to insult you or what you saw.

To me his entire story makes no sense and I can break it down from the year prior to Huff and Lazar watching John lear and KNapp "On The Record" talking about UFOs and Area51 and Dulce cattle mutilations etc. Bobs own transcripts state thathe and Huff consistently watched the show and could not believe the attention Lear was getting.

I believe its very possible looking at the evidence lear was set up by a false story written by Huff and Lazar and that's why gene was always by Bobs side so the story wouldn't get so mangled as it has. Now he has George Knapp with him if bob has nothing to hid I certainly don't understand why he wont take crown questions. Although the answer may lie within the Lil AleInn 1993 questions when Bob was asked about his professors at MIT and CalTech and blatantly lied to everyone this is a fact. He doesn't like being caught off guard and I have been hearing alot about Huff through inside connections as to what the truth is but Im going to keep that to myself until maybe Huff comes forward.

Bob lazar applies fro a job at Area51 somewhere around November of 1988 a Top Secret Clearance which one must have just to get on a JANET Flight takes 535 days total that's just a Top Secret Bob claims Majestic Clearance 38 levels above TS so I cant imagine. I do know this much because of the industry Im in there are no shortcuts when it comes to background checks none.

I can sit here and weigh the pros and cons and there are hardly any pros at all if any. Its my right an opinion that Bob Lazar and gene Huff carefully constructed this story told Lear and it blew out of control. The Billy Meier Craftis an identical match to the Sport Model do you believe Meiers?
The Demon Core on Display at Los Alamos looks identical to the lazar so called Reactor down to the tuned tube and yes Bob worked at Los alamos about a year. There just happens to be an S4 at The Tonopah Test Range which is still under the control of the nellis tests and training ranges and one of Bobs best friend worked at Tonopah another coincidence so man y coincidences that in 1989 people would have no clue of none.

The May 1989 Scientific American Magazine talks about the island of stability being at E114 yet another coincidence. and I can go on and on and on. Jerry Freeman walks rightonto Papoose Lake takes photos and behind him should be the S4 facility and there is nothing at all probably do to the plutonium contamination that are monitored with Alpha Probes and another coincidence Bob rebuilt Alpha Probes for the test site . Why would such a talented Physicist be building Alpha Probes with John Lear ? Something anyone could do.

Let's take a look at "Project 57" Papoose Lake and see the contamination and just how dangerous it was to be at Papoose lake I think Jerry Freeman found out it lead to his early death.

Please read:

http://www.area51specialprojects.com/area51timeline.html?iact=rc&uact=3&dur=296&page=1&start=0&ndsp=34&ved=0ahUKEwj1oMirj-XJAhUGcQ8KHSmLCGUQrQMIITAB
BigPappy51

bigpappy51

Quote from: A51Watcher on May 22, 2019, 05:28:20 AM

And BTW, before I forget Bob replied to a query if the briefing documents had anything to say about the origin of the craft.

He said "Yes most of them were recovered from archaeological sites dated to 10,000 years old."  :o

Yea sounds like he took that from Corey Goode.. An archaeological dig ok I heard him state this recently never before.
BigPappy51

bigpappy51

Quote from: A51Watcher on May 22, 2019, 05:22:47 AM

He did not mention rotating it on it's axis to me, just said turning it, so that is a new detail thanks for that.

If you look at the diagrams you can see the emitters are in the cabin compartment and the amplifiers are in the lower level. I think that's where your confusion is.


eta: And Btw, just because you have gravity amplifier powered up in the lab does not mean it is running full blast so would not be blasting stuff off the bench.

More mistaken assumptions.

How do you know its not running full blast on the bench how are they controlling the energy no dials nothing. Bob does claim that the top part of the craft was the guidance system but thats in the craft ?? How do you control a total annihilation reaction have you ever asked a real physicist these questions before ?

So is there a low setting and a high setting better yet when whatever test flies the craft with the 2 gravity amplifiers on how do they possibly control the craft why use the Sport Model that's missing an Amplifier ? Tell me how they controlled the amount of power which Bob seems to have no answer for to the gravity amplifiers ? Bob has always maintained when the E115 was put in the tube it instantaneously would start which to me makes zero sense no on off ?? You are dealing with 20 hydrogen bombs according to Lazar and Lear in a tuned tube in to a vacuum below? How does this material withstand the incredible explosive power this is not possible the science is not possible.

If true I find it hard to believe that an annihilation reaction in a vacuum is turned off by something after the reaction meaning the turning of the gravity amplifiers that makes no sense at all. And again another coincidence Bob loves particle accelerators its amazing that Aliens from Zeta reticuli fly here using a particle accelerator that is very primitive yet another coincidence Bob and the particle accelerators. The ETs just happen to use one to pull time and space towards them without sucking up anything local...

Im going to post some major contradictions below By Bob Lazar himself who claims: "The gravity amplifiers always runs at 100%"
BigPappy51

bigpappy51

Lazar contradicts himself again Lets look at what he said about the Omicron Configuration? My question is who ever tested this craft to find out the truth about Delta Configuration and how do they do so with a craft that only has 2 Amplifiers remember Bob stated in the video above with Corbel the one amplifier had been ripped out of the Sport Model now..

KVEG Radio Interview: December 28th 1989

Caller:

You were talking about the low- and high-speed modes and the control factors in there. Can you describe those modes and what the ship looks like each time it is going through those modes?

Lazar:

The low-speed mode — and I REALLY wish I could remember what they call these, but I can't, as I can't remember the frequency of the wave — The low-speed mode: The craft is very vulnerable; it bobs around. And it's sitting on a weak gravitational field, sitting on three gravity waves. And it just bounces around. And it can focus the waves behind it and keep falling forward and hobble around at low speed.

March, April 1990 (approximate time of interviews): "Alien Contact" by Timothy Good.

....The craft does not create an "antigravity" field, as some have surmised. "It's a gravitational field that's out of phase with the current one," Lazar explained in a 1989 radio interview. "It's the same gravitational wave. The phases vary from 180 degrees to zero...in a longitudinal propagation."

In the first mode of travel – around the surface of a planet – they essentially balance on the gravitational field that the generators put out, and they ride a "wave", like a cork does in the ocean. In that mode they're very unstable and are affected by the weather...

"How close do you think you have to get before time distortion takes place?" I asked. "It's tough to say, because it depends on the configuration of the craft. If the craft is hovering in the air, and the gravity amplifiers are focused down to the ground and it's standing on its gravity wave, you would have to get into that focused area..."

September 22, 1990: "UFOs and the Alien Presence" by Michael Lindemann.

Lazar:

I don't know if I mentioned it before, but the amplifiers always run at 100%. They are always outputting a maximum gravity wave, and that wave is phase-shifted from zero to 180 degrees. That's essentially the attraction and repulsion, and it's normally at a null setting somewhere in between. It's a very straight-forward system. It looks more like a coal fired engine than very hi-tech.

Mid 1991: "The Lazar Tape", 40 minute VHS videotape

Now when a disk travels near another source of gravity, such as a planet or moon, it doesn't use the same mode of travel that we learned about in our science lesson. When a disk is near another source of gravity, like Earth, the Gravity A wave which propagates outward from the disk is phase-shifted into the Gravity B wave which propagates outward from the Earth, and this creates lift. The gravity amplifiers of the disk can be focused independently and they are pulsed and do not stay on continuously.

When all three of these amplifiers are being used for travel, they are in the delta configuration, and when only one is being used for travel it is in the omicron configuration.

May 1, 1993: "Bob Lazar at The Ultimate UFO Seminar" at Rachel, Nevada

Question:

Was the local means of propulsion the same as this across-space distances? What was the local means of propulsion?

Lazar:

The local means of propulsion is essentially them balancing on a out of phase gravity wave, and it's not as stable as you would think. When the craft took off, it wobbled to some degree. I mean a modern day Hawker Harrier or something along those lines of vertical takeoff craft is much more stable than then in the omicron configuration, which is that mode of travel. The delta configuration is where they use the three amplifiers. Those are the only two methods I know about for moving the craft.

Question:

(About using the gravity amplifiers to lift things)

Lazar:

Any of the three gravity amplifiers could do that, could lift something off the ground, or for that matter compact it into the ground. That's not a problem, because the craft can operate on one amplifier, in omicron mode, hovering. That would leave the other three (sic) amplifiers free to do anything...

April, 1994, Omni Magazine

Per Lazar:

"The craft operated in two modes – omicron and delta, which indicated how many gravity amplifiers were in use. In the omicron configuration, only one amplifier was used; the other two were swung out of the way and tucked inside the disc. In omicron mode, the crafts can essentially rise and hover but do little else."

Analysis:
This item is not so much a flaw, but rather a very pronounced contradiction in Lazar's story. If you read the background carefully, there are two areas that are inconsistent. And while this is a part of his story we certainly can't check for accuracy, we can check for consistency. Notice that in the earliest interviews, when the details should have been freshest in his mind, he clearly refers to the craft using all three gravity amplifiers when in omicron mode. Then, over time, the story changes. He then says the craft uses only one amplifier. We'll ignore the problems of balancing on something that isn't under the exact center of the disc. Finally, over 4 years after the fact, he adds that not only do the craft use only one amplifier to hover, the other two fold up out of the way. Quite a change from his first rendition.

The other area has to do with the operation of the gravity amplifiers. In September of 1990, he tells Lindemann, "...I don't know if I mentioned it before, but the amplifiers always run at 100%. They are always outputting a maximum gravity wave..."

The next year, in Lazar's own tape, he says, referring to the amplifiers, "...they are pulsed and do not stay on continuously." Well, either they do or they don't. Which Lazar is one to believe?

This is pretty basic stuff, or at least should be to an ex-saucer mechanic. It's very disturbing that his story has changed in this rather subtle detail.

Possible Explanations:
1. Lazar fabricated the whole story and it naturally mutated slightly with time.
2. Lazar was at S-4 but really didn't understand how the discs operate and is giving us his "best guess."
3. Lazar is relating a story he heard from someone else and is "filling in the blanks."

Lazar mouth is his own worst enemy that's why he used to have gene Huff with him baby sitting him thru every interview.
BigPappy51

A51Watcher

Wow dude, you must have read my mind.

Your last couple of posts look like you have taken a deep breath and counted to 10 before composing them.

That's a big change from from your previous posts in this thread and frankly most of your posts on this forum.

Your frequent typos and snarky unsupported allegations combined with a an inability to stay on topic constantly shifting subjects make it appear you are hyperventilating bad and about to have a coronary.

Stick with the approach used in your last few posts and you will do fine.

Snarky comments like his ol buddy Gene to coach him have no basis in fact and should be avoided.

Saying you suspect he was coached by Gene is much more acceptable and can be debated.


So if Gene saw John's appearance on George's 'On The record' appearance and was jealous, how did he manage to get gravity propulsion craft to appear for John and myself when and where he said they would be?

Of all the pros and cons you mention, that is the most important one, the appearance of gravity propulsion before our very eyes.


If you emailed Bob in your usual snarky accusatory tone full of typos about to have a coronary, it is no wonder Bob started shutting down on you.

Chill out and try to present your case in a cogent manner.

And if you were the first to ask Bob about the force field, good for you I will award you a boy scout medal for it. Feel better now?

And what has Corey Good had to say about Archaeology sites and UFOs?

Does he have any supporting evidence?



 

bigpappy51

Quote from: A51Watcher on May 22, 2019, 07:06:55 AM
Wow dude, you must have read my mind.

Your last couple of posts look like you have taken a deep breath and counted to 10 before composing them.

That's a big change from from your previous posts in this thread and frankly most of your posts on this forum.

Your frequent typos and snarky unsupported allegations combined with a an inability to stay on topic constantly shifting subjects make it appear you are hyperventilating bad and about to have a coronary.

Stick with the approach used in your last few posts and you will do fine.

Snarky comments like his ol buddy Gene to coach him have no basis in fact and should be avoided.

Saying you suspect he was coached by Gene is much more acceptable and can be debated.


So if Gene saw John's appearance on George's 'On The record' appearance and was jealous, how did he manage to get gravity propulsion craft to appear for John and myself when and where he said they would be?

Of all the pros and cons you mention, that is the most important one, the appearance of gravity propulsion before our very eyes.


If you emailed Bob in your usual snarky accusatory tone full of typos about to have a coronary, it is no wonder Bob started shutting down on you.

Chill out and try to present your case in a cogent manner.

And if you were the first to ask Bob about the force field, good for you I will award you a boy scout medal for it. Feel better now?

And what has Corey Good had to say about Archaeology sites and UFOs?

Does he have any supporting evidence?





You are correct first off I have been sick for the past month with several illnesses so it make look like i'm having a coronary and jumping around and for that I hope everyone understands. Forgive me for the typos as well when using my phone the autocorrect doesn't seem to correct anything again I have been ill for a month now I sometimes wonder if we have all been poisoned.

I didn't say Gene and Bob were jealous of John lear. If you go to Bob Lazar's original BobLazarDOTcom which is online. You Can read Bobs transcripts and I found it very strange how they watched John for at least one year On The Record and then Gene approaches him to trade a real estate appraisal for UFO tape copies. One of those tapes as you know and I can prove was The Billy Meier tapes. In those Billy Meier tapes for those who don't know was the beam Ship that is in appearance identical to the Sport Model Bob showed. Except for the ETs are totally different.

Im trying to show a number of alleged coincidences that are not actually coincidences. A51Watcher there is no doubt in my mind that you and others saw things in the skies above Area51 that you cant explain this was going on for some time after Bob came out you would think they would have stopped all saucer programs once you and others were camped out on Freedom Ridge. There are other explanations.

The video of lazar and Huff that's so famous is a stationary light. You can clearly hear Gene Huff walk over to the camera bump the camera and then says "Did you see that?" Lazar replies No I didn't Huff replies "It went zoom zoom" That particular incident was what made me start to think hold on a minute hear they are all watching this craft and Huff is the only one that sees it go he estimates 30 miles across the sky and back made no sense. Lazar and company should had seen this happen but they didn't and once again we can go over the video you can clearly hear him walk to the camera bump it those old mics were super sensitive as well.

I also find the falling out between Gene and Lazar suspicious and the comments made atlears Birthday party. As far as calling Gene Bobs buddy I meant no offense by that he had referred to him as his buddy and Knapp had referred to Huff as his buddy in interviews as well. I think what I am going to do is put together a list of all the coincidences that we have when it comes to lazar and his story and maybe we can go over them one ata time I will offer this. As far as your sighting in the deserts I'm not going to go along with the theory of Tom Mahood who claims it was a Proton beam weapon. At the same time because there is no S4 at Papoose Lake and Bob did not have the degrees and many other claims he he can't prove I have to say I don't believe Bob Lazar.

I do believe that Bob Lazar and Gene Huff wrote this story as I stated they watched lear saw the attention and though they could cash in. Which is what Lazar is doing right now. I believe that they used John Lear as a conduit to get the story out and because Bob lazar talked about a fictitious place and a fictitious story he cant be arrested. Bob never would have had the time to get the TS clearance approved to go to Groom Lake impossible you must have a Top Secret Clearance to go to Groom this is a fact ask any member of the RoadRunners International as I have.

Yes Corey Goode has been talking about Archaeological UFO sites in Antarctica Linda Howe has been doing the same using a fake navy SEAL. I will ask you I don't recall Lazar saying years ago these 9 discs were the result of an archaeological dig have you ? You would think we would have one whistleblower from the digs? Or one whistleblower from S4 by now but nothing we had what Dan Burisch..

A51Watcher I do enjoy our conversations it makes life interesting I am not trying to be a smart A$$ I wish I could had been there to see what you had seen at Groom.
BigPappy51

bigpappy51

Area51Watcher I quote " If you emailed Bob in your usual snarky accusatory tone full of typos about to have a coronary, it is no wonder Bob started shutting down on you."

You couldn't be more wrong I was very professional he wouldn't had answered me if I had not been. My questions are scientific in nature My main question was what the material was that the reactor and tuned tube was made of to be able to maintain a total annihilation reaction the equivalent of 20 Hydrogen bombs. What Possible material could hold this reaction I had also stated that to me the Element 115 was not as important as this material. I never got "snarky" with Lazar the science doesn't make sense and was looking for some answers that may.

You don't know for sure that you saw an anti gravity vehicle a modern drone would be one answer for what you may have seen. You can not prove that what you saw was an alien Zeta Reticuli Spacecraft.

A modern drone show imagine what you would had thought if you had seen this technology from what 20 miles away at Area51 in 1989 ? You would had thought OMG its flying saucers !!! They were making Drones and testing drones long time ago far before the modern tech we can buy over the counter.

https://youtu.be/u6uIRr4CWQY


BigPappy51

A51Watcher

Quote from: bigpappy51 on May 22, 2019, 04:26:33 PM
You are correct first off I have been sick for the past month with several illnesses so it make look like i'm having a coronary and jumping around and for that I hope everyone understands. Forgive me for the typos as well when using my phone the autocorrect doesn't seem to correct anything again I have been ill for a month now I sometimes wonder if we have all been poisoned.

I didn't say Gene and Bob were jealous of John lear. If you go to Bob Lazar's original BobLazarDOTcom which is online. You Can read Bobs transcripts and I found it very strange how they watched John for at least one year On The Record and then Gene approaches him to trade a real estate appraisal for UFO tape copies. One of those tapes as you know and I can prove was The Billy Meier tapes. In those Billy Meier tapes for those who don't know was the beam Ship that is in appearance identical to the Sport Model Bob showed. Except for the ETs are totally different.


Bob himself mentioned in the original broadcast the ship he worked on looked almost identical to that swiss farmer guy (he couldn't remember his name. Look at my Avatar. It too looks similar to one of the Meier craft. Pure coincidence. Most saucers throughout the years are depicted as that shape.


Im trying to show a number of alleged coincidences that are not actually coincidences. A51Watcher there is no doubt in my mind that you and others saw things in the skies above Area51 that you cant explain this was going on for some time after Bob came out you would think they would have stopped all saucer programs once you and others were camped out on Freedom Ridge. There are other explanations.
Yes as I drove out there I thought they would have cancelled the test as well, but surprise! From what I can tell they continued until 1993. Apparently they considered testing a top priority and tried to detain and confiscate any recording equipment until their new location was ready.

The video of lazar and Huff that's so famous is a stationary light. You can clearly hear Gene Huff walk over to the camera bump the camera and then says "Did you see that?" Lazar replies No I didn't Huff replies "It went zoom zoom" That particular incident was what made me start to think hold on a minute hear they are all watching this craft and Huff is the only one that sees it go he estimates 30 miles across the sky and back made no sense. Lazar and company should had seen this happen but they didn't and once again we can go over the video you can clearly hear him walk to the camera bump it those old mics were super sensitive as well.

Actually it has been proven NOT to be a stationary light and your contention that Gene kicking it caused the motion is false. Remember the video I showed you of my footage that detects and corrects any camera movement? There were several places in the film that showed when I did move the camera. We ran that same process on Bob's footage and it showed -zero- camera movement.

I also find the falling out between Gene and Lazar suspicious and the comments made atlears Birthday party.
Gene denies those alleged comments
No falling out between them I am aware of. Gene was with Bob at the Arizona conference a few years ago.

As far as calling Gene Bobs buddy I meant no offense by that he had referred to him as his buddy and Knapp had referred to Huff as his buddy in interviews as well.

Yes they were and continue to be buddies.

I think what I am going to do is put together a list of all the coincidences that we have when it comes to lazar and his story and maybe we can go over them one ata time I will offer this. As far as your sighting in the deserts I'm not going to go along with the theory of Tom Mahood who claims it was a Proton beam weapon. At the same time because there is no S4 at Papoose Lake and Bob did not have the degrees and many other claims he he can't prove I have to say I don't believe Bob Lazar.

I do believe that Bob Lazar and Gene Huff wrote this story as I stated they watched lear saw the attention and though they could cash in. Which is what Lazar is doing right now.

Incorrect. It is publicly stated that Bob is receiving zero proceeds from this film, and never has made any money from it.


I believe that they used John Lear as a conduit to get the story out and because Bob lazar talked about a fictitious place and a fictitious story he cant be arrested. Bob never would have had the time to get the TS clearance approved to go to Groom Lake impossible you must have a Top Secret Clearance to go to Groom this is a fact ask any member of the RoadRunners International as I have.

You must be forgetting that it has been confirmed that Bob worked at Los Alamos with a TS clearance before getting a job at S4.

Yes Corey Goode has been talking about Archaeological UFO sites in Antarctica Linda Howe has been doing the same using a fake navy SEAL. I will ask you I don't recall Lazar saying years ago these 9 discs were the result of an archaeological dig have you ? You would think we would have one whistleblower from the digs? Or one whistleblower from S4 by now but nothing we had what Dan Burisch..

You might think so but we don't so the point is moot.

A51Watcher I do enjoy our conversations it makes life interesting I am not trying to be a smart A$$ I wish I could had been there to see what you had seen at Groom.

A51Watcher

Quote from: bigpappy51 on May 22, 2019, 05:07:01 PM
Area51Watcher I quote " If you emailed Bob in your usual snarky accusatory tone full of typos about to have a coronary, it is no wonder Bob started shutting down on you."

You couldn't be more wrong I was very professional he wouldn't had answered me if I had not been. My questions are scientific in nature My main question was what the material was that the reactor and tuned tube was made of to be able to maintain a total annihilation reaction the equivalent of 20 Hydrogen bombs. What Possible material could hold this reaction I had also stated that to me the Element 115 was not as important as this material. I never got "snarky" with Lazar the science doesn't make sense and was looking for some answers that may.
Well thats good, try to maintain the same behaiviour around here.
You don't know for sure that you saw an anti gravity vehicle a modern drone would be one answer for what you may have seen. You can not prove that what you saw was an alien Zeta Reticuli Spacecraft.

Absolutely wrong. Our specialized processing can detect whether a craft is powered by gravity propulsion technology. Peggy members are well aware of this process. In fact a few months ago I saw a video from that adventures with Christian guy from Area 51 that I was sure was alien craft because it's glittering appearance looked just like Bob's and mine footage. I had my team process it and zero gravity propulsion detected. Had me fooled though.

A modern drone show imagine what you would had thought if you had seen this technology from what 20 miles away at Area51 in 1989 ? You would had thought OMG its flying saucers !!! They were making Drones and testing drones long time ago far before the modern tech we can buy over the counter.

I was not 20 miles away. I was 2 miles away at most.
When the craft landed they were 1/4 mile away. I got a close look at them.


A51Watcher


Next time I see Bob I will ask him about the amplifiers always being at 100%.

Seemingly doesn't make sense to us primitives however the amplifier in my room is always at a 100% and only gains volume when I boost the preamp gain.

I am sure we can find a reasonable answer.

Not that it makes any difference, but I spoke to him in person, not by email.








A51Watcher



Back when I helped Zorgon start this forum, all I had was my videotape of footage I took at Area 51.

I saw 2 glows behind the Groom mountain range, a large one coming from Groom lake, and a smaller one coming from S4.

When the craft were done testing that night, they returned to the smaller glow of S4 and within a few minutes that glow turned off.

I started posting my footage here on the forum and gradually one by one, professional image processors from around the world came to the forum to examine my footage, thanks to members here who alerted these guys on other forums that they should come take a look.

Without exception, they all ended up PMing me to say DUDE! You captured a real UFO here!

What proves they were gravity propulsion craft was a process called shades of black. This process has been proven to be scientifically valid by about a dozen members here.

The most striking thing it shows is the gravity clouds under the craft.

No other type of craft shows this amazing result.

Here is a cammo dude driving past me on mailbox road. Near the end of the clip we see one of the craft in the sky.

Upon processing this image of the craft we see the gravity clouds underneath the craft and massive tight energy rings in the center of the craft.

No other type of craft produce these results.





ArMaP

Quote from: A51Watcher on May 22, 2019, 10:34:41 PM
Absolutely wrong. Our specialized processing can detect whether a craft is powered by gravity propulsion technology. Peggy members are well aware of this process.
Well aware of the claims about the processing would be more correct. :)

A51Watcher

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Quote from: ArMaP on May 23, 2019, 01:14:32 AM
Well aware of the claims about the processing would be more correct. :)

Well if you want to split hairs (which you always do)

well aware of the interpretation of the results would be more correct.