an article i liked

[space otter]

i liked this article..it is an opinion i agree mostly with
especially the Peter Jensen  quote


https://triblive.com/opinion/joseph-sabino-mistick-democrats-need-real-scrapper-to-take-on-trump/

Joseph Sabino Mistick: Democrats need real scrapper to take on Trump

JOSEPH SABINO MISTICK  | Saturday, August 3, 2019 7:00 p.m.

Paddy Ryan, an Irish-American boxer and one-time Pittsburgher, was featured on a 1920s poster put out by his Bronx-based promoters in hopes of attracting opponents. Ryan, a former amateur world champion who had become a prizefighter, is posed in the classic boxer's profile — chin down, gloveless hands extended, feet widely planted.

Ryan had fought over 40 times in two years as a professional, and many of his defeated opponents are listed by name, along with a challenge to fight "anyone in the world scaling between 142 and 147 pounds." As the poster proclaims, fans "can bank on a real old-fashioned slugging bee" when Ryan fights.

"Action is the one thing Ryan doesn't give nuthin' else but" was the real clincher on the poster, since most folks love a spirited match-up in which both parties give as good as they get. That seems to hold true in politics as well as in sports.

And at least for a while last week, the gloves came off in the 2020 presidential race. For a moment, it was a bare-knuckled slugfest with a Baltimore Sun editorial that pulled no punches. Donald Trump had attacked Democratic Rep. Elijah Cummings and his Baltimore district, and the Sun editorial showed the world how to respond.

In another of his now predictable tweets, Trump described Cummings' district as a "rat and rodent infested mess" where "no human" would want to live, adding his typical litany of bully-boy insults aimed at Cummings and his neighborhood. As usual, these words were delivered with the presidential megaphone that always gets attention, and they were wrong but cutting.

"Better to have a few rats than to be one" was the headline of the Sun's response to Trump. It was a strong right hook out of nowhere and it found its mark.

Then editorial writer Peter Jensen really let it rip, writing that the editorial board "would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women's private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful idiot of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are 'good people' among murderous neo-Nazis that he's still not fooling most Americans into believing he's even slightly competent in his current post."

Contrast this with Special Counsel Robert Mueller's dispassionate testimony before Congress, which left Trump's opponents wanting and discouraged. Mueller is a patriot, a war hero, a distinguished civil servant and a gentleman, but he fights by the Marquis of Queensberry Rules, "a code of fair play presumed to apply in any fight."

Donald Trump fights like he is mud wrestling in a cage match. And this time, finally, when he stuck his chin out and dropped his hands, the Baltimore Sun tagged him good and followed-up with a flurry of brutal body shots.

Anyone hoping to beat Trump will have to challenge his suitability to be president, and dispute his policies and values and appointments — the stuff of position papers. But they will have to fight his bullying and schoolyard taunts, too, toe-to-toe.

And the Democrats have to find someone with a little Paddy Ryan inside for a scrap like this.


Joseph Sabino Mistick is a Pittsburgh lawyer. Reach him at misticklaw@gmail.com.
...................


and so you would ask who is  this Mistick guy

Joseph Sabino Mistick is an associate professor at Duquesne University School of Law, where he teaches Administrative Law, Sentencing and Sanctions, Criminal Law, and Remedies and Damages. He is the founder of the award-winning Urban Development Law Clinic, which he has operated since 1995.

Currently a regular Sunday columnist for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Mistick writes on current affairs, politics and public policy. He is the Democratic half of the PCNC political talk show Roddey Mistick and a frequent guest lecturer and public speaker. He has appeared on Voice of America, CBS Sunday Morning, PBS NewsHour and numerous local television and radio stations.


i guess i should let  him know i put this here, huh.?!



quote is from here:

https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0728-trump-baltimore-20190727-k6ac4yvnpvcczlaexdfglifada-story.html



and more on Paddy Ryan here

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/sport-boxing-circa-1890-paddy-ryan-irish-american-boxer-a-news-photo/79659859

[space otter]

Lee Moran is one of my very favorite writters and the vid is not  long

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-casino-executive-economy_n_5d56627de4b0d8840ff125a1



POLITICS 08/16/2019 04:50 am ET Updated 3 hours ago
Former Trump Casino Exec Names The Big Con Of Donald Trump's Campaign
Jack O'Donnell called out Trump for his historic lack of strategy and for always acting on "the thought of the day."
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By Lee Moran

President Donald Trump is running the country in the same "spur of the moment" way in which he ran his businesses, some of which ended up facing bankruptcy proceedings, an ex-employee told MSNBC's Ari Melber on Thursday.

Jack O'Donnell, who was the vice president of Trump's former Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, claimed "one of the cons, when we elected a businessman as the president, is that he would bring some discipline and perhaps some real strategy to the government and obviously how we operate internationally."

"Trump really has never had that capability ― he wasn't strategic in his business," O'Donnell explained. "It was really just the thought of the day, he did things on the spur on the moment. He bought the Taj Mahal because it was the biggest. He bought an airline because he always wanted to own an airline. He didn't bring any economic discipline to how he operated the business and he had no strategy to really grow the business."

"It's pretty obvious at this point that he's operating today the government in the exact same manner. He just has an idea and he implements it," O'Donnell added. "It's not part of a strategy, it's just things that Donald Trump wants to do."

Check out the interview above.

sorry can't get the vid to here - go to link  it isn't that long

[space otter]

sometimes the truth is stranger than the report of cheering crowds
folks do strange things for money

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-speech-at-a-shell-plant-drew-thousands-of-workers-they-were-paid-overtime-to-be-there/ar-AAFWIxO?li=BBnb7Kz

Trump's speech at a Shell plant drew thousands of workers. They were paid overtime to be there.
Marisa Iati, Morgan Krakow  8 hrs ago

Workers at a Royal Dutch Shell plant in Monaca, Pa., were forced to choose Tuesday between attending a speech by President Trump or forgoing overtime pay that their co-workers would earn.

Attendance was optional, but contract workers who chose not to stand in the crowd would not qualify for time-and-a-half pay when they arrived at work Friday, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. Several companies with thousands of unionized workers have contracts with Shell, one the world's largest oil and gas companies.

Workers at the unfinished Pennsylvania Petrochemicals Complex had to arrive at 7 a.m., scan their ID cards and stand for hours until Trump's speech began, the Post-Gazette reported.

"NO SCAN, NO PAY," a supervisor for one of the contractors wrote to workers, according to the Post-Gazette.

The contractor's memo also banned yelling, protesting or "anything viewed as resistance" at Trump's speech, the Post-Gazette reported.

"An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions," the document said, according to the Post-Gazette. "Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this."

The Washington Post on Saturday was unable to immediately reach Shell or the plant's unions for comment.

Trump has a long history of falsely claiming that liberal demonstrators have been paid to protest. When people angrily flooded the streets of some cities after Trump won the presidency, he accused them of being "professional protesters" who had been "incited by the media." When women protested Brett M. Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court, he said they were "paid professionals."

And when protests bubbled up at airports in 2017 in response to Trump's ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries, he alleged that the demonstrators were "professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters."

Trump's speech on Tuesday felt at times like a campaign rally, The Washington Post previously reported. Between remarks about U.S. energy production, Trump urged the workers to support his reelection and complained about a laundry list of his perceived enemies: the media, the Democrats running for president and the Academy Awards.

About 5,000 workers attended the speech, according to Newsweek magazine.

Shell spokesman Ray Fisher told the Post-Gazette that workers at the plant have a 56-hour workweek, which includes 16 hours of overtime pay — so workers who showed up on Tuesday were paid for the week at a higher rate.

Another Shell spokesman, Curtis Smith, told Newsweek that workers who chose to skip the rally received "paid time off," which does not count as hours worked and therefore does not trigger overtime pay. Trump's speech was treated as a training that differed from other training sessions only in that it included "a guest speaker who happened to be the President," Smith said.

"We do these several times a year with various speakers," Smith told Newsweek in a written statement. "The morning session (7-10 a.m.) included safety training and other work-related activities."

Ken Broadbent, business manager for the union Steamfitters Local 449, told the Post-Gazette his workers respect Trump for his title, regardless of whether they liked or disliked him. Anyone who did not want to go to work on the day of Trump's speech could skip it, Broadbent said.

"This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it," Broadbent told the Post-Gazette.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I love extra money....bring it on...

[ArMaP]

Trump's speech at a Shell plant drew thousands of workers. They were paid overtime to be there.

That type of thing is a two edged sword, as it may give the wrong idea to, in this case, Trump's side, as they see big numbers of supporters but they aren't really supporting him.

Maybe that happened with Hillary Clinton without her knowing and she thought she had a bigger popular support, and we know how that ended.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

That type of thing is a two edged sword, as it may give the wrong idea to, in this case, Trump's side, as they see big numbers of supporters but they aren't really supporting him.

Maybe that happened with Hillary Clinton without her knowing and she thought she had a bigger popular support, and we know how that ended.

the point is....all the candidates do this type of thing....If it had been Obama, there would still be the same turn out....Only...
because it's Trump...people go bonkers....(They all Do This)....

[space otter]

well Sarge maybe they all do pay  but i hadn't heard of it so often before.. well actual only with this guy last election..blame social media or the hate that t rump has stirred up..who knows

any who Mr. Mistick   writes again..

this is my home turf so  i do pay closer attention to what happens here..
and while i was glad about this "cracker' plant being build and the jobs created.. i didn't have a clue what the hell a cracker plant was and now with knowledge of what it is - i'm not so glad they are doing it
simply they take petroleum and make plastic.. crap.!! 
or is that crack..lol 

and as i stated in the thread title ..an article that i liked..and it is here because of it's political orientation so anyone reading would know what the slant was before reading ..

https://triblive.com/opinion/joseph-sabino-mistick-trump-missed-bipartisanship-lesson-during-monaca-visit/

Joseph Sabino Mistick: Trump missed bipartisanship lesson during Monaca visit

JOSEPH SABINO MISTICK  | Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:00 p.m.

Last week, when Donald Trump blew into town and toured the Royal Dutch Shell multibillion-dollar cracker plant under construction in Beaver County, he made one of his trademark laughable claims. The plant has created 5,000 construction jobs and will require 600 permanent industrial jobs when completed, plus thousands of jobs in spin-off businesses.

"It was the Trump administration that made it possible, no one else. Without us, you would have never been able to do this," Trump proclaimed with a straight face.

That was a flimflam, a con job, absolutely untrue. In 2012, when the land assemblage and initial planning was taking place, Trump was ruminating over who to fire from "Celebrity Apprentice." And in the summer of 2016, when the final decision was made to start construction, it was still widely believed that Hillary Clinton would be the next president.

The credit for attracting Shell to this site and starting this project belongs to then-Gov. Tom Corbett, a Republican, who stayed with it through the end of his term. His successor, Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, has kept the project moving. And their efforts and sentiments do not look or sound like anything coming out of Washington these days.

As Wolf told WTAE-TV in 2016, "You're absolutely right to give Gov. Corbett and his administration full credit for starting this process. They recognized how important this was for Pennsylvania."

And Corbett gives much of the credit to others.

"This required a bipartisan effort on two fronts. Politically, we needed Republicans and Democrats to work together to make this happen. We got that in the state Legislature, but we also needed support at the local, county and federal levels, where Democrats were in control.

"The second bipartisan effort came from labor and industry. Together, they solidified the political and community support we needed."

So here we have a rare sighting, a political and governmental success in which each side is quick to give the other side credit. It's the approach most Americans have been longing to see.

And that's why Trump should have used his visit here to learn something. Instead of stealing credit for a project he had nothing to do with, he should have seen the wisdom of giving proper credit to others. And instead of attacking Democrats, as he did from the podium, he might have learned the power of political partnerships.

Pittsburghers know about working together. The region adopted some of the first laws in the nation to clean the air and water in the 1950s. It has survived the collapse of big steel and successfully turned its economy toward universities and hospitals and research centers. And while it has been harder to replace those well-paid blue-collar jobs that we lost with this change, this plant will be a big help.

The plant is not without controversy, and its environmental impact will require vigilance. We once made the mistake of trading our health for jobs and a promise of fortune, but we know better now. And the partnerships that built this must protect our health, too.

We know that we can do this together.

Joseph Sabino Mistick is a Pittsburgh lawyer. Reach him at misticklaw@gmail.com.

[ArMaP]

the point is....all the candidates do this type of thing....If it had been Obama, there would still be the same turn out....Only...
because it's Trump...people go bonkers....(They all Do This)....

My doubt is: do the candidates do this or do other people do this to support their candidates?

This type of thing looks more like a personal choice from that plant's management than something that was asked by Trump or his entourage.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

The reason it hasn't been reported then and now is the complicity of the liberal media. Because it's Trump, it's a story for outrage!

[The Seeker]

My doubt is: do the candidates do this or do other people do this to support their candidates?

This type of thing looks more like a personal choice from that plant's management than something that was asked by Trump or his entourage.

It is almost always the supporters that do these things, not the potus or his entourage, and the uber liberal media does this to foment and incite everyone because they can 

[spacemaverick]

Well, I am a Trump supporter.  All The Democrats and some Republicans advocate socialism which is the next step to communism.  Just my opinion.  I didn't serve my country for it to be handed over to socialist idiots.  That is all.

[ArMaP]

I didn't serve my country for it to be handed over to socialist idiots.  That is all.

Do you prefer a different kind of idiot? 

[space otter]

sorry guys.. i totally respect your opinion but strongly disagree on t rump
as a human being he is a minus ten in my book

as for this rally.. think about it ..money talks
the plant is run by shell.. shell is big money..and can afford to tell it's workers what to do..they did
workers are working for money.. it paid them to show up
my point is that this large crowd is not there as political supporters but as workers getting a day's pay
now does that show support for this  person.. NO it shows a need to make a living and get paid
sad but true

yet another angle on it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trumps-large-union-crowd-at-shell-was-given-the-option-of-not-showing-up-%e2%80%94-and-not-getting-paid/ar-AAFU6tl?li=BBnb7Kz

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
By Anya Litvak / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette  13 hrs ago

Video by Newsy

This story has been updated to clarify the origin of a memo to workers at Shell's site.

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell's petrochemical plant in Beaver County was clear Tuesday: Either stand in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak or take the day off with no pay.

"Your attendance is not mandatory," said the rules that one contractor relayed to employees, summarizing points from a memo that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those who showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their ID cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

"NO SCAN, NO PAY," a supervisor for that contractor wrote.

That company and scores of other contractors on site and their labor employees all have their own contracts with Shell. Several said the contracts stipulate that to get paid, workers must be onsite.

Those who decided not to come to the site for the event would have an excused but non-paid absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday.

Shell spokesman Ray Fisher explained that the workers onsite have a 56-hour workweek, with 16 hours of overtime built in. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump's speech and showed up for work Friday, meeting the overtime threshold, were being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those who didn't go to hear the president were being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site Tuesday.

"This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it," said Ken Broadbent, business manager for Steamfitters local 449.

The local has 2,400 workers on the site and Mr. Broadbent said he would not "bad rap about it one way or another."

"We're glad to have the jobs. We're glad to have the project built," he said. "The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title."

Mr. Broadbent said anyone who did not want to show up to work that day was free to do so. "This is America," he said.

One union leader reached Friday who asked not to be named because he did not want to make trouble for his workers said one day of work might amount to about $700 in pay, benefits and a per diem payment that out-of-town workers receive.

Mr. Fisher said Friday that "this was treated as a paid training day with a guest speaker who happened to be the president."

He said workers engaged in "safety training and other activities" in the morning.

"It's not uncommon for us to shut down the site for quarterly visits from VIPs — popular sports figures like Rocky Bleier and Franco Harris have visited the site to engage with workers and to share inspirational messages. Shell/Penske NASCAR driver Joey Logano was another guest at the site," Mr. Fisher said.

Several union leaders said they were not consulted about the arrangement before it was sent out.

The contractor's talking points, preparing his workers for the event read:

"No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event. An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this."

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he praised natural gas extraction in Appalachia and talked about his political grievances and name-called some opponents.

Shell will process natural gas into plastic pellets when the plant is operational.

The president also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

"I'm going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, 'I hope you're going to support Trump.' OK?" he said. "And if they don't, vote them the hell out of office because they're not doing their job."

More than a dozen unions work at the Shell site, the largest construction project in the state.

Anya Litvak: alitvak@post-gazette.com or 412-263-1455.

Microsoft may earn an Affiliate Commission if you purchase something through recommended links in this article.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Tell me something Otter, if any other President was at this event, i.e. Obama, Bush, Clinton, would you be posting any of these 'stories'? Stories that wouldn't even make headlines if they were? I think not. I maybe wrong. I get it, you hate Trump. I don't care for him either, but the alternative of current politicians leaves a lot to be desired. 
So your opinion is tainted by your hate, which is sad in my opinion.
I respect your right to post this stuff but it gets a little old.


Rock

[space otter]

Tell me something Otter, if any other President was at this event, i.e. Obama, Bush, Clinton, would you be posting any of these 'stories'? Stories that wouldn't even make headlines if they were? I think not. I maybe wrong. I get it, you hate Trump. I don't care for him either, but the alternative of current politicians leaves a lot to be desired. 
So your opinion is tainted by your hate, which is sad in my opinion.
I respect your right to post this stuff but it gets a little old.


Rock

ah Rock ...how to answer you?
the wink at the bottom makes me wonder if you are only speaking  to continue the thread or if you are truly interested  in what i think
i'll be honest with you.. and i think i am honest all the time but sometimes my sense of humor makes the meaning fuzzy..that's why i brought up your wink

i don't hate t rump cause i don't extend the energy to hate anyone.. but i despise what he is and what he is doing to this country..yes i would post this no matter who was speaking because i think it needs to be known  how clout is used by individuals in power..who ever they are
there are no ethics left  in politics as far as i can see..
maybe there never were

as a younger human i was pretty much tied up in making a living and
did not watch as closely as we seem to be watching this liar-n-chief
maybe the others hid it better..maybe they weren't as visibly Narcissistic, Egotistical, Unqualified Arrogant and bullying specimen

i don't think he has the brains to do this - just the personality.. i think this team found the perfect stooge to do their work.. imo of course

the democracy that we all treasure is being eroded every day by this outfit..with in 13 months of the election 192 judges were appointed by this administration.. way more than any other in the past..
it's a start at the  elimination of the checks and balances that were set up to keep most  elected offices on the straight and narrow..


that is after a republican genius gerrymanderedd the voting populace to swing the electoral ..you gotta wonder just who that was
and you gotta wonder where it is going..if it continues in it's one-sidedness we are looking at the next one elected as being a dictator and no more elections..hell this guy is already saying he won't step down

soooo no i don't like t rump at all ..i consider him  only the head of the snake slittering  around on the political stage..and since he is the VISIBLE part..my voice will be raised in protest

sooooooo i hope all those words  don't hide my answer

yes i would share these little news stories about the bullshit no matter who it was about...
it just so happens to be about the great-divider..this time



oh i forgot to address this part of your post..sorry

this stuff but it gets a little old.

if it is old  then don't read in the political area anymore..because it will obviously  ruin your day

i didn't post it to start a war on who likes whom.. because we have all made up our minds..and yes i do know i am in the minority (really bothers me..NOT bwhahahah)
so it wasn't to change anyone's mind on specific humans.. just to call attention to how blantant the bullshit is
just happens to be on the folks  with money