Videos dealing with Corona Virus

[astr0144]

Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional: week ending 1 May 2020

I found this that shows some updated  statisical information on the UK Covid situation that shows in quite some detail
various facts of information.

If you find the chart below  on the website you can place your mouse on each bar and get the facts and details
for each weeks information.



On trying to do searchs on Bing for Covid data on two main hospitals in my area... I cannot find any facts or details..
There some ealier newspaper articles that had some facts from eary March... but updates since..

or any ref to local private forums etc who may have been discussing such a thing..

I have to wonder why ?   

Alex jones has been saying how the Internet is getting more and more controlled and covered up now... and I think he is right.

Alex Jones on one of his latest videos now believes Trump is  pretending to go along with the vaccines agenda..and on doing so... can maybe prevent Gates taking control of it... or thats what he claims to believe...

To take some control he is suggesting the Military and Older will be vacinatated (but maybe initially only on choice)
maybe to stop ideas of vaccinating the younger generations from the start to delay things.

Then in later  he thinks by the time things have been prepared.. that he will be able to dilute the situation so it does not go ahead..

At the moment he would be under to much pressure for too many opposing parties if he did not show to do something
or to oppose it at this time.... can only hope he is right.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending1may2020

[ArMaP]

Thank you for your appreciation.
I know you like to statistics..

I do.

but I am not sure how you may view them in relation to what I may have been trying suggest or consider..
if for eg... I was still suggesting that maybe overall some of the Cov 19 deaths that we are led to believe
may also include normal other deaths..or of similar number.. that may roughly double the normal exectation.

One thing I have seen is that it looks like each country has their way of counting the CoViD-19 deaths. In Portugal all suspect deaths are tested (that's probably one of the reasons Portugal is one of the countries with more tests per capita), but in other countries they only need a suspicion to put "CoViD-19" in the death certificate.
If someone wanted to increase the numbers of deaths they wouldn't need to kill people, they only needed to classify other deaths as CoViD-19 deaths to alter the statistics.

BUT NOW  seem to possibly have Donald Trump maybe going along with things in the USA... it would hard to think hes in it as well.

I never understood why some people thought Donald Trump could be a presidential candidate and then be elected president if there was some huge cabal against him. As a last resort they would kill him, it wouldn't be the first time an US president was killed.
To me, specially in this CoViD-19 case, it looks like someone that is allowed to do what he wants but, in really problematic situations, has to do what he is told, like Barack Obama before him.

[astr0144]

Good point... in what you say about how they may count some deaths as Covid elated that only maybe thought as such.. but have had not official check if thats what you have found reported ..

As I mentioned in a recent prior post...& in relation to that Alex Jones was saying similar... that he has to believe that they have been including nomal deaths in their statistics for Covid. along with my own thoughts that may well be the case.

One thing I have seen is that it looks like each country has their way of counting the CoViD-19 deaths. In Portugal all suspect deaths are tested (that's probably one of the reasons Portugal is one of the countries with more tests per capita), but in other countries they only need a suspicion to put "CoViD-19" in the death certificate.

If someone wanted to increase the numbers of deaths they wouldn't need to kill people, they only needed to classify other deaths as CoViD-19 deaths to alter the statistics.

I also have said on and off about a similar view...in ref to D.T.
Yes I was also led to believe again From Alex Jones theories that ALL presidents have to do as they are told..
by someone or thing above them... who as has discussed on quite a few occasions on PRC in the past that many believ it to be what may describes either NWO/ Illuminati, Rothchilds etc.. or the Rich sectors..

I never understood why some people thought Donald Trump could be a presidential candidate and then be elected president if there was some huge cabal against him. As a last resort they would kill him, it wouldn't be the first time an US president was killed.

To me, specially in this CoViD-19 case, it looks like someone that is allowed to do what he wants but, in really problematic situations, has to do what he is told, like Barack Obama before him.

.From what you say now... you give me the impression that you may now maybe have considered some of the facts and considered other possible views rather than fully believing that this Covid is what they make it out to be..

[ArMaP]

.From what you say now... you give me the impression that you may now maybe have considered some of the facts and considered other possible views rather than fully believing that this Covid is what they make it out to be..

No, I still think what I thought before, that this is a disease created by a virus.

[kevin]

https://www.educationviews.org/1962-life-in-2022-image-depicted-everyone-trapped-in-pods/

Do You think they may have had a time machine to view 2022?

At least some things never change, the woman is not looking where's she's going ( kevin dives for cover)

Kevin

[astr0144]

Maybe for now we have covered many of the other possibilites or theories that got considered.

but after looked at more statistics...  thks for your further updated view.

Have to see now what occurs from now on. What Trump and other Countries decide to do

I assume still that if they bring out a vaccine that you would opt or agree to take it ?

No, I still think what I thought before, that this is a disease created by a virus.

[astr0144]

It has been discussed in the forum on certain threads..

or that there may even be a looking glass that alows whoever to look into the future .

I think most disagree with the time travel theory..
but I do find an interesting consideration.

I noted those pods and meant to to post the image...
but to me it looks more like in the 1920s than it does 2022..
or at least some (2 or 3) of the main  people we can see, appear from the 1920s IMO.

ie 100 Yrs before now or time before when the article was wrote.
Wonder why they would have made it look like that yet ref to the future...
one wonders if something like that is what we come down to...if this thing
continues on and appears to get worse. 



I thought maybe we may start to consider some sort of helmets or suits first..

 



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1962 'Life in 2022' Image Depicted Everyone Trapped in Pods

A depiction of life in 2022 by an Italian magazine first published in 1962 depicted pedestrians using motorized pods instead of walking, something that may turn out to be quite accurate given current fears over coronavirus.

The image was drawn by Walter Molino, an Italian comics artist and illustrator. It featured on the front page of a 1962 edition of La Domenica del Corriere, an Italian weekly newspaper which ran from 1899 to 1989.
The cartoon shows individuals navigating the sidewalk from within the confines of their own personal pod

While the depiction was probably more of a pedestrian travel-related prediction, it meshes quite eerily with current fears over coronavirus, which has led to suggestions that the "new normal" must incorporate a similar pod-based lifestyle to protect against the virus, because apparently immune systems don't function anymore.

As the video below shows, a restaurant in the Netherlands is trialing individual greenhouse-style pods where diners eat in "safety" as their waiter brings them their food on a long board while wearing a head visor and a mask.

What happens in summer when the glorified greenhouses reach near oven temperatures was not discussed in the video.
Proposals for people to be ensconced within their own pods for air travel, trips to the beach and other activities have also emerged in recent weeks. Live in a pod, work in a pod, socialize in a pod, travel in a pod!
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https://www.educationviews.org/1962-life-in-2022-image-depicted-everyone-trapped-in-pods/

1962 'Life in 2022' Image Depicted Everyone Trapped in Pods

Do You think they may have had a time machine to view 2022?

At least some things never change, the woman is not looking where's she's going ( kevin dives for cover)

Kevin

[Ellirium113]

'Coronavirus did NOT come from animals in Wuhan market': Landmark study

The new research is clear in its finding. 'The publicly available genetic data does not point to cross-species transmission of the virus at the market,' said Alina Chan, a molecular biologist, and Shing Zhan, an evolutionary biologist. Their paper insists all routes for 'zoonotic' (animal to human) transmission – in this case from bats – must be examined. It says: 'The possibility that a non-genetically engineered precursor could have adapted to humans while being studied in a laboratory should be considered.'
The revelations add to the growing clamour for an international inquiry into the outbreak. 'We need to get to the bottom of many things in relation to Covid-19,' said Tory MP Bob Seely, a member of the Commons' Foreign Affairs Select Committee. 'We need to know where this virus began, why we were told at one time there was no human transmission, and what was the role of the Chinese Communist Party.'
Sourcing the virus is key to understanding the disease, developing vaccines and stopping fresh outbreaks. But the issue has become fraught after US President Donald Trump claimed it emerged from a Wuhan laboratory working on bat-borne diseases and China responding by blaming American soldiers at a sports contest.

https://www.prisonplanet.com/coronavirus-did-not-come-from-animals-in-wuhan-market-landmark-study.html

Peer-Reviewed Study Rejects Pangolins As Intermediary Species For COVID-19

Via PLOS:
The outbreak of a novel corona Virus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the city of Wuhan, China has resulted in more than 1.7 million laboratory confirmed cases all over the world. Recent studies showed that SARS-CoV-2 was likely originated from bats, but its intermediate hosts are still largely unknown. In this study, we assembled the complete genome of a coronavirus identified in 3 sick Malayan pangolins. The molecular and phylogenetic analyses showed that this pangolin coronavirus (pangolin-CoV-2020) is genetically related to the SARS-CoV-2 as well as a group of bat coronaviruses but do not support the SARS-CoV-2 emerged directly from the pangolin-CoV-2020.

https://www.prisonplanet.com/peer-reviewed-study-rejects-pangolins-as-intermediary-species-for-covid-19.html

Study located here:
https://www.scribd.com/document/461601819/Journal-ppat-1008421#from_embed

[astr0144]

The thoughts that I now have with this virus and suggestions of now bringing in vaccinations... that maybe come enforced..

After 9/11 ...from 2001..

at least in the USA.....  they brought in a type of enforced control to visitors to their country..
by making everyone give their finger print and later maybe even their eye irsis details...or no one was allowed to enter the country.

As they started just taking one fingerprint and later they took all of of at least one of a visitors hand..
and asked you to look into a camera..
From what I recall ... Many did not get an pre warning about this for visitors that was made clear to them in advance ?
or it was NOT continued to be made  known for visitors who may only visited for the 1st time say a year or more later.

I dont recall the UK airlines who went to the USA for eg... making people fully aware of that they were doing this ?
I dont think all other Countries have brought this in...like they have in the USA.

But Now all people who visited the USA are on a Data base file containing their details whether they agree to it or not..
or they would have had to return home.. and I dont know how many may had opted to do that... as at the time... such things of personal data were not considered in the way that they are now..

Now that people are more aware and may now have further considered this...
Would they see it as a misuse of their human rights ?

Being on such a data base if your not a criminal .. where the system now has those peoples details...
seems rather intrusive..

and they have be rather what they do in the future and hope that they do not have their finger prints left somewhere at the scene of someone elses crime... in which  they may end up getting investigated..or even accused.

I suspect the next thing that they may requesting or enforcing  is sampling of all our DNA to be put on a Data base file.
if its not already been created..from the past...

[Ellirium113]

But Now all people who visited the USA are on a Data base file containing their details whether they agree to it or not..

or they would have had to return home.. and I dont know how many may had opted to do that... as at the time... such things of personal data were not considered in the way that they are now..

Now that people are more aware and may now have further considered this...

Would they see it as a misuse of their human rights ?

There is no need to worry about such things it has had little effectiveness on catching any actual terrorists. If your worried about what the government is watching you do then stay off the internet PERIOD! They and other corporations collect tons of data on you daily without your knowledge or consent. It has been so for many years now. I don't really think they care about what you do so long as you don't fall into a certain criteria of individual with nefarious motives. ALL laws trample the rights of some individuals while protecting others. If these laws were not in place do you feel the world would be a better place today? Without them the anarchists will do whatever they please and when THAT affects you, you will ask for the laws. Whether those laws are the right ones is debatable.

[astr0144]

You make some fair points .. and we are aware... and no doubt chance when posting on this forum..
but at  the same time we may like to discuss such things with those who do discuss such topics..
or offer advice and opinions..

In ref to 9/11... it depend on ones view..

If you believe as a conspiracy that it was done deliberate as has been severely discussed on this and other similar forums and all over the internet..

Those who question or disbelieve that it was done as the Govts have informed us or tried to make  us to believe..
Then those people probably disagree with them enforcing to take our finger prints..

I may now have some differing views on 9/11 as I have seen one theory that I think could be correct at least as to how the buildings colapsed... ie via Aluminium oxide in the planes materials being ignited that created severe  heat mixed with the fuel.. maybe than rather just the placed explosives theory..

but I still cannot account for Building 7s collapse..

so such people who have such views may well strongly disagree that they had the right to do that..if they that
the govt were involved and wanted to bring in more surveilance as does appear to have since occurd on a huge scale since... but also some will also say they would have done this either way suh as if if it was genuine legit terror attack.

In terms of them just doing certain things however...
They often do things with little or no prior warning.. and thats my issue.
For eg... if a person was to visit the USA but decided that they did not agree with passing on their details...
but was NOT pre warned what to expect...

There only other chocie would be to be sent back ... and thats provided  that they would actually do that..
or at least not question or investigate you further.

thats my concern..

but some things are too hard to determine what gets done...and the rights and wrongs in relation to it.
No doubt if we do get effected by certain issues .. most of us would look for authorities guidence.

There is no need to worry about such things it has had little effectiveness on catching any actual terrorists. If your worried about what the government is watching you do then stay off the internet PERIOD! They and other corporations collect tons of data on you daily without your knowledge or consent. It has been so for many years now. I don't really think they care about what you do so long as you don't fall into a certain criteria of individual with nefarious motives. ALL laws trample the rights of some individuals while protecting others. If these laws were not in place do you feel the world would be a better place today? Without them the anarchists will do whatever they please and when THAT affects you, you will ask for the laws. Whether those laws are the right ones is debatable.

[Ellirium113]

Kissinger: Failure to establish post-COVID new world order 'could set the world on fire'

"The pandemic has prompted an anachronism, a revival of the walled city in an age when prosperity depends on global trade and movement of people."
Kissinger believes that "the world's democracies need to defend and sustain their Enlightenment values."
"A global retreat from balancing power with legitimacy will cause the social contract to disintegrate both domestically and internationally," he stated.
"Yet this millennial issue of legitimacy and power cannot be settled simultaneously with the effort to overcome the Covid-19 plague. Restraint is necessary on all sides — in both domestic politics and international diplomacy."
Kissenger warned that failure either to conquer the coronavirus or to build the post-coronavirus world order might lead to global catastrophe.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=11476.550;last_msg=150875

[Ellirium113]

You make some fair points .. and we are aware... and no doubt chance when posting on this forum..
but at  the same time we may like to discuss such things with those who do discuss such topics..
or offer advice and opinions..

In terms of them just doing certain things however...
They often do things with little or no prior warning.. and thats my issue.
For eg... if a person was to visit the USA but decided that they did not agree with passing on their details...
but was NOT pre warned what to expect...

Laws are passed and stricken down on nearly a daily basis in order to keep up one has to do the research on their own. Even with the COVID laws being passed, if your not watching for these you won't know what had been set into law (ex. the social distancing 2m rule was made LAW in Canada. If your not watching the news you would find this out the hard way.)

There only other chocie would be to be sent back ... and thats provided  that they would actually do that..
or not question you further.

thats my concern..

Rejecting it would probably raise more flags than if one was to simply just go through with it. Unless you HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE it really isn't going to make any difference.

but some things are too hard to determine what gets done...and the rights and wrongs in relation to it.
No doubt if we do get effected by certain issues .. most of us would look for authorities guidence.

You nailed it on the head there. Some of this is knee-jerk reactions to what the population is DEMANDING. It's that fine line of being a "just" law or being a "Draconian" law... see the below example...

Accidentally spreading Covid-19 is wanting grandma dead, say opponents of ending lockdowns. Yet activists now worry that proposed laws to punish those who threaten to spread it deliberately would discriminate against minorities.
A Florida man spat and coughed on a police officer responding to a domestic violence call, and faces up to five years in prison on a federal charge of biological weapons hoax (he was negative for Covid-19). Another man in Texas, who falsely claimed on Facebook that he paid someone to spread the virus at local grocery stores, was charged with the same thing. A Michigan man who wiped his face with a store employee's shirt might get three months in jail and a $500 fine for misdemeanor assault and battery.
These are just some of the recent incidents across the US highlighted by Reuters, as Covid-19 lockdowns – originally intended to last for two weeks – have stretched to two months, with some jurisdictions saying they want to extend them indefinitely.

https://www.rt.com/usa/488692-criminalizing-covid-discrimination-minorities/

[ArMaP]

https://www.educationviews.org/1962-life-in-2022-image-depicted-everyone-trapped-in-pods/

Do You think they may have had a time machine to view 2022?

No, as we do not have those individual cars to reduce traffic problems (that's what the original image was supposed to show, not pedestrians in pods, as we can see the pedestrians on the sidewalk in the background).

Apparently, that was related to something that supposedly happened in New York, when a postal worker decided to get out of his car and walk over the cars in a traffic jam.
(Source)

At least some things never change, the woman is not looking where's she's going ( kevin dives for cover)

[ArMaP]

I assume still that if they bring out a vaccine that you would opt or agree to take it ?

I was supposed to take the seasonal flu vaccine, but I forgot, twice.

Being a diabetic I don't have to pay for the seasonal flu vaccine, but if I have to pay for a possible SARS-COV2 vaccine I will not take it, that's for sure.

Also, in Portugal, medical procedures cannot be mandatory.