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Started by micjer, February 26, 2022, 04:30:31 PM

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micjer

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on February 27, 2022, 11:05:41 PM
They MAY NOT decide to join if they could not see the Content posted in the 1st place.
That's true.

QuotePlus any that may decide to join, may not even know there are some Private threads asked to be set up..
unless they find out or get informed.
I have joined forums just to be able to see the members list, I suppose "they" do the same.

QuoteALSO one never knows what such organisations could be capable of, when trying to spy on any website ?
or the suggested very clever hacker types.. who may be able to read private threads or PMs.
Depending on the organisation, they may even have ways of convincing the hosting company to give them access to the database and the server, no need to hack anything.

QuoteI heard of changing ones Sex, but Not Changing into another type of " Species , mammal / or  being" unless one maybe be an Alien.

As far as I know .. I am still a human !  :)
If (when?) it's possible I'm sure someone will want to do it. As for you, stay human. ;)

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on February 27, 2022, 11:41:08 PM
Dont Click on link unless you want to accept cookies..maybe best read from above.
You have the wrong idea about those sites asking to accept the cookies. When the sites behave as they should they give you the choice of which cookies to accept, all, just the minimum for the site to work or any configuration you may want to do yourself.
I always choose the minimum configuration and deny access from third party cookies, and I know it works because I never get targeted advertising (the whole idea behind the "cookies law" is to allow people to choose if they want their data to be visible to other sites/organisations or not).
The sites that do not ask you any thing are either only using the minimum cookies already (like the sites I manage at work) or they are ignoring that "cookies law" and get all the information they want from your device/browser.

Choosing which cookies you allow takes time but protects your privacy more.

astr0144

#33
I am not sure why one may join a forum to see a list if you only see a list usernames..
Unless you thought that you would recognise some from other forums where you are familiar with some of
the members who may use the same or similar usernames elsewhere.

I think most forums do at least show how many members they have...and maybe also list the members..
But some forums can hide the members list I believe..

I am Looking for a FREE type forum or group...( similar to what yahoo groups used to be  ) that I can use that does NOT list the amount of Members..and that allows the user to sign up and create their own forum for certain topics..and control what you do with the members list.but it seems the majority that I have looked at do not offer that option..

This lists some of the various types on offer such as https://www.proboards.com/  or some listed in these links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software.


Yes, I suspect that you are right that such organisations could do as you describe.

QuotePlus any that may decide to join, may not even know there are some Private threads asked to be set up..    unless they find out or get informed.

I have joined forums just to be able to see the members list, I suppose "they" do the same.


    ALSO one never knows what such organisations could be capable of, when trying to spy on any website ?
    or the suggested very clever hacker types.. who may be able to read private threads or PMs.

Depending on the organisation, they may even have ways of convincing the hosting company to give them access to the database and the server, no need to hack anything.

I have referred to this before... but I still Hate Cookies or having to deal with them on every website I visit. They waste my / our time.


It seems that maybe you work in Computers from what you say...so probably are much more familiar with such things.

You seems to be quite knowledgable about them or have taken more time to understand them.
To me what they ask does not really mean much to me. and I have no idea if what they may claim..
if I can trust them.

what I often manage to do now... is click on a website... say for an article.. and quickly press "Control A" to highlight.. the text and "Control C" to copy it... so I sort of grab the content quickly and paste on a word doc..
then pick out the parts I want... so I avoid accepting anything.

SOme websites take a while to load up, before any cookies messages show. , others react very quickly.. and sometimes I cannot copy the text or they use special software to protect  copying the content / text.  But I think usually I can copy maybe over 80% or more of website news type articles I click on... I tend also use  certain news websites that I know tend to load more slowly, so I can copy the content or txt. such as an MSN website for eg or certain UK news sites... maybe like the "SUN" or "Mail".

Quote from: ArMaP on February 28, 2022, 09:32:13 PM
You have the wrong idea about those sites asking to accept the cookies. When the sites behave as they should they give you the choice of which cookies to accept, all, just the minimum for the site to work or any configuration you may want to do yourself.
I always choose the minimum configuration and deny access from third party cookies, and I know it works because I never get targeted advertising (the whole idea behind the "cookies law" is to allow people to choose if they want their data to be visible to other sites/organisations or not).

The sites that do not ask you any thing are either only using the minimum cookies already (like the sites I manage at work) or they are ignoring that "cookies law" and get all the information they want from your device/browser.

Choosing which cookies you allow takes time but protects your privacy more.

astr0144

To my surprise... For some reason I am now able to access Martin Armstrongs website again.

I would like to know what happened for the last few days as to why I was unable to access it.

Martin seems to have posting  quite a few interesting articles related to the War and what some of the
consequences may be to the World and its various economies.

World War III Beginning Stages Now

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/world-war-iii-beginning-stages-now/


The Foolishness of Sanctions
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/the-foolishness-of-sanctions/

Ukraine & Russia Peace Talks End

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/ukraine-russia-peace-talks-end/


Dividing the World Economy = Economic Decline

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/dividing-the-world-economy-economic-decline/


ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on March 01, 2022, 01:23:52 AM
I am not sure why one may join a forum to see a list if you only see a list usernames..
Unless you thought that you would recognise some from other forums where you are familiar with some of
the members who may use the same or similar usernames elsewhere.
It was something like that.
Read your messages for more details. ;)

QuoteI am Looking for a FREE type forum or group...( similar to what yahoo groups used to be  ) that I can use that does NOT list the amount of Members..and that allows the user to sign up and create their own forum for certain topics..and control what you do with the members list.but it seems the majority that I have looked at do not offer that option..
I don't like those kinds of forums because we do not have control of the forum itself, not having, for example, access to a log showing the visitor's IP addresses. When we have full control of a forum/site, we can get all that information. Also, most of them have advertising that we cannot control, with the implication that those adverts can get information about who visits the forum.

QuoteI have referred to this before... but I still Hate Cookies or having to deal with them on every website I visit. They waste my / our time.
They do waste some of our time, but by choosing which ones you allow you are in fact blocking the non-essential cookies.

Another possibility (and much easier) is to use a private/anonymous browser session that clears all cookies when we close it. The reason I usually do not use them is because I would also lose the browsing history, something I usually use.

QuoteIt seems that maybe you work in Computers from what you say...so probably are much more familiar with such things.
I have been working professionally with computers since 1995, and as a hobby 10 years before that. :)

QuoteTo me what they ask does not really mean much to me. and I have no idea if what they may claim..
if I can trust them.
See it this way:
They can either ask you to choose which cookies to accept or not. If they do not ask you a thing, then they are using all the cookies they want and you know nothing about it. If they ask you to choose which cookies to accept then it means they are at least trying to look like they follow the data protection rules, so they, theoretically, are accepting your choice and not using the cookies you reject.
Knowing they can be penalised with big fines if they are saying one thing and doing another, I suppose I can trust them. :)

Quotewhat I often manage to do now... is click on a website... say for an article.. and quickly press "Control A" to highlight.. the text and "Control C" to copy it... so I sort of grab the content quickly and paste on a word doc..
then pick out the parts I want... so I avoid accepting anything.
Most sites, if you do not specifically reject cookies, you are implying that you accept them, and cookies, being very small text files, are almost likely already on your computer when you select the text.

QuoteSOme websites take a while to load up, before any cookies messages show. , others react very quickly.. and sometimes I cannot copy the text or they use special software to protect  copying the content / text.  But I think usually I can copy maybe over 80% or more of website news type articles I click on... I tend also use  certain news websites that I know tend to load more slowly, so I can copy the content or txt. such as an MSN website for eg or certain UK news sites... maybe like the "SUN" or "Mail".
Yes, some sites use some Javascript code to prevent selecting the text. Sometimes, disabling Javascript on the site allows us to get the text, but some sites do not work without Javascript.

micjer

#36
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/terence-corcoran-putin-blows-up-netzero-and-the-green-reset/ar-AAUvOlS?ocid=msedgntp


Terence Corcoran: Putin blows up NetZero and the green reset

QuoteThere can be no greater demonstration of the massive failure — and the paralyzing contradictions and disconnect — revealed this week between two branches of the United Nations that allegedly serve to protect and assure peace and prosperity around the world. One branch is the United Nations Security Council , allegedly dedicated to international peace and security. The other UN operation is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) , which was created to "provide policymakers with regular scientific assessments on climate change, its implications and potential future risks, as well as to put forward adaptation and mitigation options."


QuoteThere can be no greater demonstration of the massive failure — and the paralyzing contradictions and disconnect — revealed this week between two branches of the United Nations that allegedly serve to protect and assure peace and prosperity around the world. One branch is the United Nations Security Council , allegedly dedicated to international peace and security. The other UN operation is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) , which was created to "provide policymakers with regular scientific assessments on climate change, its implications and potential future risks, as well as to put forward adaptation and mitigation options."

Russian President Vladimir Putin on March 2.© Provided by Financial Post Russian President Vladimir Putin on March 2.
As Vladimir Putin dropped bombs on the Ukraine and invaded its cities, the UN Security Council, along with the UN General Assembly, sank into paralysis and debate, unprepared and unwilling or simply incapable of rousing serious opposition to the Russian military operation. On Monday, the UNIPCC delivered its latest report, "Climate Change 2022," subtitled "Impacts, Adaptation & Vulnerability." A monumental 3,675-page document packed with incomprehensible science and meaningless geopolitical jargon, the report in effect outlines how the global fixation on climate policy and net zero carbon targets laid the groundwork for Putin's move to invade Ukraine.


The split UN personality was personified on Monday by UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, who said the IPCC report demonstrated that "As climate impacts worsen — and they will — scaling up investments will be essential for survival ... Delay means death." Then, on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Guterres said "civilian deaths" were totally unacceptable. "It must stop now."

But Guterres's warnings fail to acknowledge the climate/invasion links. Without the UN-led climate crusade it is highly unlikely Putin would have been in a position to launch the Ukraine invasion.

Nobody saw Putin coming, riding on the back of Germany and other European nations as they attempted to remake their energy systems to conform with IPCC decarbonization programs. Germany sought to bring in more Russian gas to offset its plans to eliminate coal power from its energy grid. In the wake of the invasion, Germany has withheld approval of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and has now begun to remake its energy strategy to include the continued use of coal.

Terence Corcoran: The imploding new world economic order
Terence Corcoran: In Canada, follow the money + the ideas
Terence Corcoran: Let's 'follow the money' in Ottawa
Terence Corcoran: Any conflicts? Nah. We're all in this together
Nations around the world, including Canada and the United States, are now under economic and strategic pressure to rethink the IPCC climate crusade toward NetZero 2050. There comes a point when the banal pursuit of the overwhelmingly complicated science of climate change becomes the source of serious geopolitical and military risk. Fossil-fuel energy, thanks to Putin, is now about to make a major comeback as a relatively inexpensive and readily available secure source of energy.

Neither Prime Minister Trudeau nor President Joe Biden can, in the wake of Putin's disruption of the world energy and political system, continue to regurgitate the Build Back Better and Green New Deal slogans that have dominated their pronouncements over the last two years. The era of the pipeline blockers is over.

Also coming to an end, perhaps, is the World Economic Forum's Great Reset movement led by Klaus Schwab. Accompanied by Vladimir Putin and other member of the WEF's Davos organization, Schwab envisioned using the climate crisis and the COVID-19 pandemic as spring boards for a new global political system that would change the way the world is governed. It took Schwab several days after Putin moved on Ukraine to announce that the WEF "deeply condemns" the aggression.

It may be too late. The damage has been done; the green reset and the great march to NetZero 2050 are now in disarray, blown to pieces by Vladimir Putin
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The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

petrus4

Quote from: astr0144 on February 26, 2022, 05:40:21 PM
Then there mention of whether or not Putin wanted to turn some things back to the older ways..but not in a
negative way.. what ever that should mean... whether its to do with Communism, Markism..ways..
that either he wants to prevent occurring in Ukraine or to changes things back as they were in some ways
before the Countries in Russia split..

I don't think it really has anything to do with Marxism as such.  To the extent that Putin is nostalgic for the USSR, I think that is primarily in terms of the level of unquestioned centralised control which the Soviet government had, and also its' greater wealth and resources.  In my mind, Putin is an old hitman with an ego problem; and although fear of his own mortality, and his narcissism are both blinding him now, assassins are not generally known for ideological or sentimental motivations.

I think Putin wants the Ukraine for three main reasons.

a}  Its' agricultural output.

b}  The port in Odessa.

c}  He doesn't want either the Americans or the EU to have a potential staging area directly on his border; and given the traditional nature of Russian-American relations, I honestly don't blame him very much for that.

The first two objectives are mostly gravy; he could survive without them, so they are optional.  The third, however, is the important one.  That's the one which I could see motivating him to at least consider playing the nuclear card if he doesn't get it.

The one thing I don't understand is why the Russian conduct of the invasion has had such a surreal level of incompetence.  They should have been targetting Ukrainian logistics, first and foremost.  Power stations, freight truck depots, water treatment plants, food manufacturing, all that sort of thing.  If he had done that quickly and cleanly enough, then he essentially could have put the entire country under lockdown, and if he had also done it with minimal casualties, he could have gone to the UNSC and told them point blank that when he got a legally binding, in writing prohibition against the Ukraine joining either the EU or NATO, in perpetuity, he would pull out of the Ukraine; but that he was going to sit on it until he got what he wanted.

His targetting of civilians is stupid.  Yes, it's evil, but even more than that, it's stupid.  You can be a complete psychopath with regards to human life...you can be Tywin Lannister squared...and yet if you are not a complete idiot, you will still be able to see why keeping the civilian body count as low as is humanly possible is basic common sense.  Putin would always have to deal with the civilian population, regardless of how many nukes he might have, and he would always have to deal with the UN, even if he won.  It is therefore not in his best interests to harm anyone, because unless his plan is to literally turn the entire planet into a graveyard, those are both groups who he will unavoidably need to build long term relationships with.

Assuming this were possible, the intelligent thing to do, would have been to keep most (if not all) of his troops at home, and instead use some of those fancy non-nuclear long range missiles of his to very carefully and precisely demolish the Ukraine's logistical infrastructure.  Power stations, sewage plants, freight depots, food manufacturing, communications; all that sort of thing.

Then, assuming he had kept the body count close to non-existent, he could go to the UNSC and announce point blank that until he got a legally binding, in-writing declaration that the Ukraine would never be permitted to join either the EU or NATO, said Ukrainian infrastructure would remain offline.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

petrus4

Quote from: micjer on March 02, 2022, 08:01:15 PM
Without the UN-led climate crusade it is highly unlikely Putin would have been in a position to launch the Ukraine invasion.

That is just too rich.

I have customarily regarded the UN as almost completely useless; but I realise now that that is unfair.  As this incident demonstrates, one thing the institution is really fantastic at doing, is shooting itself in the foot.

"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

ArMaP

There have been some reports of people from Asia and Africa not being allowed to leave Ukraine.

Two Portuguese students (from African ancestry) were sent to the end of the line when they got to the gate at the border with Poland, and even when they showed that they were from an EU country the Ukrainian guards didn't care. The case was communicated to the Portuguese Foreign Affairs minister and, after 3 days waiting, they were allowed to leave to Poland.

An Indian woman saw several people making a barrier to prevent Africans and Asians from boarding a train, and an African man was told that they were not allowed to leave and they would fight for Ukraine.

Nice people...

petrus4

Quote from: ArMaP on March 03, 2022, 01:52:40 AM
An Indian woman saw several people making a barrier to prevent Africans and Asians from boarding a train, and an African man was told that they were not allowed to leave and they would fight for Ukraine.

Nice people...

There have been times while watching videos about the invasion on YouTube, when I have gained the distinct impression that there was a lot of dishonesty and illusion associated with the whole thing, and a lot that I did not and could not know for certain, one way or the other.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

astr0144

#41
You make some good points Petrus4.

I made some of my comments based on some Articles that I read .

But Since I wrote that post.. in the earlier stages of the Russian Invasion..
I have now seen quite a few other suggestions of various reasons as to why Putin has made his decision to
take war action.

If he is doing it for further chess moves against the west as  forms of further protection... and things have been
building up for some years.. then it maybe because of everything that has occurred over the last 5 to 6 years..
with the last US Election results, EU issues with Brexit and Covid.. that its being sggested that the West is now much weaker , that he has decided to act now.

In terms of the Ukraines... There seems issues with some of the Volodymyr Zelensky leadership in relation to certain people within the country. and whether an earlier leader maybe should have remained in power.
Are the people overall content with their leader .. or was he put in power thru certain means.
and Would it make  have made any difference who was in power  to what Putins aims seem to be.

Prior to the present leader.. Putin Still believe Viktor Yanukovych should be the Ukraine leader
Then there was Petro Poroshenko a Business man and leader of the opposition Viktor V. Medvedchuk who President Volodymyr Zelensky seemed to somehow manipulated his way into power by setting them up or imprisioning the opposition. Yet he appears to have still obtained a lot of votes.

If the Russians end up fighting and bombing that is killing Ukraines.... that is terrible for them.
and NO ways do they deserve to be treated like that. Its terrible for the average people..or those having to evacuate.

But No doubt some of the Ukraines are willing to take up arms to protect themseleves..and may initially be firing at the Russian army as they enter further into the Country.

The Ukraines only natural response will be to consider trying to resist.. BUT they are only a very small Country and force compared to Russia,  unless they get back up to support them,.. Its not likely they be able to hold the
Russians off if they continue to send in more troups.

Back in WW2 if I recall some some Countries did surrender with little resistance and within a short time.

Its hard to say what the outcome of all this maybe.. or will any potential other opposition hold back or take action against Russia. or will be a short or long  term thing .

Martin Armstrong seemed to suggest there are a lot of Russians living in Ukraine..and suggested that the people should have a further Vote...But is that likely to really have any effect on Putins aims even they did.
or no matter who was to get in power.

Then there are Suggestions that the USA / West may have Bioweapon facilities in the Ukraine.. which no doubt also
would be a concern to Putin.

QuoteConsequently, Zelensky is pushing not just Ukraine into war for a matter of pride, but he is trying to deliberately bring in the United States and Europe into World War III all because of what appears to be his personal hatred of Russians for the days of Stalin. Once more, we have this Eastern European crisis that sparked World War I, in a position to create World War III. The simple solution is let the people decide with an election whereas those living in Donetsk and Luhansk are entitled to decide their own fate.



QuoteI don't think it really has anything to do with Marxism as such.  To the extent that Putin is nostalgic for the USSR, I think that is primarily in terms of the level of unquestioned centralised control which the Soviet government had, and also its' greater wealth and resources.  In my mind, Putin is an old hitman with an ego problem; and although fear of his own mortality, and his narcissism are both blinding him now, assassins are not generally known for ideological or sentimental motivations.

I think Putin wants the Ukraine for three main reasons.

a}  Its' agricultural output.

b}  The port in Odessa.

c}  He doesn't want either the Americans or the EU to have a potential staging area directly on his border; and given the traditional nature of Russian-American relations, I honestly don't blame him very much for that.


petrus4

Quote from: astr0144 on March 03, 2022, 07:44:08 AM
If he is doing it for further chess moves against the west as  forms of further protection... and things have been
building up for some years.. then it maybe because of everything that has occurred over the last 5 to 6 years..
with the last US Election results, EU issues with Brexit and Covid.. that its being sggested that the West is now much weaker , that he has decided to act now.

He is also 69 years old.  He has been consolidating and preparing for this, at least to a degree, for the last two decades, but I think he definitely has the attitude that it is now or never.

QuoteIn terms of the Ukraines... There seems issues with some of the Volodymyr Zelensky leadership in relation to certain people within the country. and whether an earlier leader maybe should have remained in power.

I have found the level of romanticism surrounding Zelensky disturbing, to be honest.  I can't put my finger on it exactly, but there is something about him that feels stage managed, and not quite real.  I think there is something we don't know, there.  The John Connor image is extremely seductive, but it's also just a little too on the nose.





QuoteThe Ukraines only natural response will be to consider trying to resist.. BUT they are only a very small Country and force compared to Russia,  unless they get back up to support them,.. Its not likely they be able to hold the
Russians off if they continue to send in more troups.

As I have said before, the other thing about this invasion which feels artificial and out of place, is the level of stupidity that has been displayed by the Russian military.

With the background that I at least thought he had, Putin should know much better than this.  He openly put his cards on the table while the Ukraine was still almost completely untouched, and the amount of the Ukrainian regular military which seems to have still been intact at the time of the invasion, implies to me that he did not engage in black operations to try and remove their command structure, before he sent his own forces in.

It also needs to be emphasised here that this is not merely incompetent in twenty first century terms, or me being an armchair general.  I have read enough Sun Tzu to know that he would have slapped Putin in the face for it.  You always send the Mandalorians in first.  This is the way. ;) 



It's like trying to grow a hydroponic weed crop when you haven't put in grow lights or the proper nutrient solution first. Of course it will fail.

a}  Send in the Mandalorians to get rid of all the specific VIPs, in a manner which is sufficiently fast, quiet, and precise that hardly anyone has time to even know that it is happening, let alone resist.

b}  Use planes, missiles, rail guns, and other fancy long range stuff to blow everything up which either produces or supports the country's economy. preferably without risking any of your own people's lives.  Power stations, truck depots, airfields, water treatment plants, food production, Internet/phone exchanges.

c}  Use tanks or short range stuff to make sure that said infrastructure does not go back up again, once you have initially knocked it down.  In most cities I know of, industrial infrastructure is generally in a different area to either the CBD or the residential areas, which means that you should have no excuse for butchering civilians.

d}  Go before the United Nations Security Council, and tell the delegates to form a nice, orderly queue in front of your throne, in order to provide you with fellatio.

e}  Sit quietly, and wait for a genuine member of the military (bonus points if they're somehow a senior officer) to respond to you in whichever forum you have posted this, and inform you that you are a pathetic, contemptible, infantile poseur, that you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what you are talking about, and that you should immediately STFU and never post or speak anywhere ever again.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

kevin



Putin is for Russia.
WHY NOT?

Kevin

astr0144

#44
Interesting post Petrus4.

Again you make some good analysis and good points.

I am still really sure however, whether Putins plans are just to be aimed at Ukraine or does he have further plans.
and if its just Ukraine based...

Ukraine broke away from Russia in 1991 and Putin became President of Russia in May 2000.
So whether he was consider this in early stages or from some later time.. I dont really know.

But yes it could be some sort of power aim he wants to achieve before he is too old..
BUT I would Guess its more than likely something that maybe a weakness within Ukraine thats a threat to him


Quote
He is also 69 years old.  He has been consolidating and preparing for this, at least to a degree, for the last two decades, but I think he definitely has the attitude that it is now or never.

I myself and I assume most people did not even know much about Ukraine or who their Leader Zelensky was
From some of the things I have read... he seems to have had some sort of appealing personality...from his background.. But I doubt he is really very astute in the areanas of Polictics and War compared to some leaders.

Quote
I have found the level of romanticism surrounding Zelensky disturbing, to be honest.  I can't put my finger on it exactly, but there is something about him that feels stage managed, and not quite real.  I think there is something we don't know, there.  The John Connor image is extremely seductive, but it's also just a little too on the nose.

I have not watched the news or read up on certain other things in great detail to try to observe what or how the Russian Military is behaving...and their actions and agendas seem to be.
BUT you make some very good points as to other things and actions that Putin could have considered.

Quote
With the background that I at least thought he had, Putin should know much better than this.  He openly put his cards on the table while the Ukraine was still almost completely untouched, and the amount of the Ukrainian regular military which seems to have still been intact at the time of the invasion, implies to me that he did not engage in black operations to try and remove their command structure, before he sent his own forces in.

You may know more than most if you have such knowledge to be an airchair general... and MAY have been able to
be Putins ,Zelensky or who evers advisor.

I recall the title of the Sun Tzu book..was it "The Art of War" ! which I have never got around to reading.
Whether those gudielines apply to all these leaders or not... you think they would all be aware if such a book
gives the guidelines of what to consider in war..

But if you are a Sardine against a Shark.. unless you have other species to aid you.. knowing the rules of war..
For such cases.. one has to consider the odds which psycologically alone may determine the decisions that get made.

But the tactics you describe could certainly be used VERY effectively for Putin I would have thought.
and it could help avoid direct conflict to Ukraines people at least in the initial earlier stages to prevent direct physical confrontations..

I had to look up what Mandalorians referred to...
I seen the Movie a long time ago, but did not observe such things as I tended to mainly watch it for the action..
rather than noting some of the descriptions of the details of the names of Aliens or soldiers / robots species  in the film...(Other than R2D2 and CP3PO)

I am finding life somewhat of a drain over last 2 to 3 years...

In the UK .. all we heared about was Brixit for months... THEN comes along Covid for 2 years... and NOW we have
The Russia / Ukraine issues..and WW3.

Has peoples Life's always been like this, where you can feel all this stuff just takes over our life's.
or is it now more on us due to the Internet ?  I assume maybe it appears that way...but prior to the Net it
would have been TV , or newspapers..  but now we have so much information... it just overloads us.


May the Force Go with Ukraine and all of us !

Quote
It also needs to be emphasised here that this is not merely incompetent in twenty first century terms, or me being an armchair general.  I have read enough Sun Tzu to know that he would have slapped Putin in the face for it.  You always send the Mandalorians in first.  This is the way. ;)