A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[Captain Dave]

One of the traits of one of my Dads technologies is that it happens to " roar" and puts off an odd blue light.

Think I may have seen/heard that a couple times...

[Linda Brown]

So you can understand my interest when someone who is well steeped in ancient stories mentions that in combination with lapis lazurli... which also has a strong connection with me. Just trying to establish one dot at a time~

Linda

[undo11]

well for those who didn't watch any of the stargate tv series (up to stargate atlantis.  not so sure about the last one. it's a bit, shall we say, over the top? has very little in the way of actual information and is mostly just a melodrama in the same vein of the new battlestar galactica series, that took a somewhat interesting and basically informative concept, with intermittent bits of humor and camp, and turned it into a depressing soap opera), the following might prove interesting.  a bit of back history is required, however:

any time the bible talks about people being killed enmasse by "holy" or "unholy" rivals to humans, my lie detector starts going off and further investigation ensues. reason?  because i know as a parent and friend of others, that i would not wish death or destruction or hell or torture, on other sentient beings, whether i deemed them to be humans or not.

the idea that there's a righteous judge or judges of all our activities, is not such a bad thing, but the idea there's a righteous judge or judges of all our activities who suddenly loses the ability to have compassion, understanding, hindsight or foresight, is not a righteous judge.  if i can do better than that; me, just a lowly human of less than glorious standards or abilities, than why wouldn't a superior entity or entities, be able to?  of course, they/he/she is able to.  so the next question is, what does it mean then that we see such language in the texts? 

many people have suggested that such texts are required to scare humans, who are part animal, into behaving with some semblance of intelligent sentience and not just thoughtless reactions to random or deliberate input meant to jerk them around like puppets on a string. 

the fact of the matter is, even THAT is the result of believing yourself worthy or capable of righteously judging others, which in human parlance means you're an ego maniac like the rest of us.   now why would a righteous judge or judges present themselves as ego maniacs?   

maybe because its our (humans) language and we understand it, we respond to it, and the ultimate idea is to get us to respond in some predictable or unpredictable way. to change us, to mold and shape us, into something better than the original product.  and we all do that with each other and our own children to one degree or another.

in effect the texts are speaking human to get non-human responses commensurate with the goal, which is, to make us use our abilities, to shape us into something more than human puppets.  i'm guessing the idea is to cut the puppet strings and react of your own accord, without the need of a nanny because you finally figured out what nanny was trying to say.

therefore, it is my belief that hell is not what we've been lead to believe, but is rather, yet another name for a wormhole.  the text of revelation sounds dire and grim, but perhaps this is because we are viewing it from our human thought patterns.   it's also possible that humans who haven't as yet cut their own puppet strings, have tinkered with the texts in an effort to manipulate the destiny of the entire race, perhaps in a way that is not commensurate with rational, compassionate, thinking, humans capable of real intelligent decisions.

killing or allowing to suffer, those we disagree with because they might continue to be stupid otherwise, is not the right course of action, although i'm sure it's tempting, but THAT is the exact problem we are complaining about in the first place! we can't escape the cycle of being stupid ourselves if we keep repeating the same mistakes we're complaining about.

with that being said, i would like to direct your attention to the events i've already described about the arrival of enki's floating, flying, glowing city, whose walls give advice and whose interior is a "tangled thread beyond understanding." i honestly believe the tv show, stargate atlantis, tried to clue us in on that one.  observe and remember the sumerian symbol of divinity:



not only was it rising from water, it had an internal gate.  however, it was also capable of using even larger gates, that the tv show called "super gates."   although the show doesn't depict a super gate under water,  let's just consider the possibility as that is exactly what the sumerian texts say happened and what the bible is hinting at as well, in the book of revelation, 9th chapter.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

A very insightful & thought provoking post, Undo

We humans have a terrible ego problem i think. But we only have to go out at night & look up at the stars to realise how small & insignificant we really are.
But we are also capable of great things when we work together.
And you are right; it's time to cut the puppet strings, & show Nanny that we can walk on our own now.....

[Amaterasu]

A very insightful & thought provoking post, Undo

We humans have a terrible ego problem i think. But we only have to go out at night & look up at the stars to realise how small & insignificant we really are.
But we are also capable of great things when we work together.
And you are right; it's time to cut the puppet strings, & show Nanny that we can walk on our own now.....

I submit that though Our bodies are small...Our minds, Our awareness, can have any size. 

[Linda Brown]

Thank you so much Beth for that response.   Linda

[undo11]

A very insightful & thought provoking post, Undo

We humans have a terrible ego problem i think. But we only have to go out at night & look up at the stars to realise how small & insignificant we really are.
But we are also capable of great things when we work together.
And you are right; it's time to cut the puppet strings, & show Nanny that we can walk on our own now.....

the impression i get is we're supposed to react supernaturally, as a matter of nature. if that makes sense.  our default position should be such, that it does the least amount of harm and the most amount of good, but certainly shouldn't contain hurting each other as a prerequisite, no matter how f'ed up we may think the other person is.  debate is fine. i'm talking about people who go around trying, literally, trying, with all their ability to get people killed in massive numbers because of their world view.  that's the wrong approach and history has proved it so many times, it's almost comical that people are still falling for it.

ah well, we live, we learn.

[Linda Brown]

Maybe a long time ago whatever " intelligence" we are experiencing made the decision that it was important to make sure we survived while we learned.

I have often wondered why in the world a technology as wonderful as my Dads represented would be so completely obscured.... above and beyond (I think )what was humanly possible at the time.

How were men and women  around my Dads work convinced to live their entire lives in the shadow of something so big.... and yet keep it safe from disclosure? This was a MAJOR accomplishement and I don't think I have yet even realized what a massive undertaking it was!

What makes us all believe that NOW seems to be the time for the final.... as Amaterasu says in her petition.... release of information? Are we actually there yet? Wherever THERE is? Finally?

Linda

[Linda Brown]

This is a transfer of information from The Cosmic Token but the question, as you can see, originated from Paul Schatzkin as he was beginning to try to deal with a conclusion that is difficult for most people. Ultimately the challenge turned out to be too much for him.... for reasons that perhaps he will only be able to explain today. But his question here, asked so many years ago.... remains valid.... and I ask it of you too....

Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:38 am

Here is an excellent post from Paul Schatzkin. Now years later it is time to ask this question again and see what happens THIS time. Note the date.... nearly six years ago folks. Has the question gotten any closer to being answered??

Here is Pauls message from his forum  ttbrown.com

on Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:18 pm In the past week, along with all the other things that have been going on on the main website and here in the forums, there have been a couple of very important posts that, for the first time since all this started nearly a year ago, actually start to put a NAME on some of the ideas that we have been dancing around.

Simply stated: Something Townsend Brown discovered, which we're calling "Electro-Gravitic Communications," is actually a means of communicating with "other dimensions." There, I said it. Again.

The subject has come up, and the point more or less nailed, in a thread that started here:

http://forum.ttbrown.com/viewtopic.php?p=1558#1558

A corollary thread also appears here:

http://forum.ttbrown.com/viewtopic.php?p=1585#1585

So you can see, the idea has been percolating in the background for some time. Now we need to deal with it seriously -- and, if we can, scientifically.

What I'd like is everybody's help in coming up with a reasonable explanation of what we're talking about in terms of contemporary science.

For example: I was recently read (somewhere... I am still looking for the exact source/quote) that "Quantum theory allows for the existence of other dimensions" -- or words to that effect.

Is that true? Where in Quantum Theory does is say that?

Whether or not there's anything about "added dimensions" in fundamental quantum theory, I do know that its latest variation, "String Theory" actually requires more than the four temporal dimensions that constitute our physical "reality." String Theory calls for something like 10 or 11 dimensions.

Did any of you see the PBS/Nova documentary based on Brian Green's book, "The Elegant Universe" ? There is a very interesting scene in the documentary (but not in the book) where Green simulates using a "Gravity Phone" to call somebody... in another dimension! (who answers and says "I thought I told you not to call me during 'The Simpsons'...").

What do you think Brian Green would say if he learned that some kid in Ohio came up with just such a device based on a discovery he made more than 80 years ago!?!?


So, can we have a clear, grounded discussion of these questions? I want to toss around some answers to this question:

"If accepted theories of physics, i.e. quantum mechanics or Stirng Theory provide for the existence of dimensions hidden beyond our physical world, then how can we make a case that Townsend Brown's "Electro-Gravitic Communications" devices provide the means for communicaitng with those hidden dimensions?"

I am no expert on Quantum Mechanics (is anybody?). I know only what I've read about "String Theory." But it seems to me that rooted somewhere in some forms of generally accepted current-day scientific theory, there is a solid foundation for what we are saying Townsend Brown discovered, built, and operated, and now is the time to get those 'scientific ducks' in a row, to make the case that the rest of the world is just now catching on to what our Dr. Brown knew all his life.

Anybody care to suggest how we do that? Clearly... concisely, and without going off on verbal tangents, please. The object here is to be understandable -- and, ultimately, persuasvie.

Anybody?

--PS

[Amaterasu]

What makes us all believe that NOW seems to be the time for the final.... as Amaterasu says in her petition.... release of information? Are we actually there yet? Wherever THERE is?

Linda

What makes ME think so is that without a solution, the "bad guys" win.  We NEED free energy - and I would like to see gravity control along with that - to wrest Their power away from Them.

Much more time and We will be greeting One anOther in FEMA camps.

[Linda Brown]

Its obviously not an easy thing to do Amaterasu... Notice the question that Paul asked so many years ago. THAT seemed a perfectly logical question, seems to me.... with an answer that should not be that hard to uncover....

And yet.... for reasons still unknown.... he wrote the book.... and then bascially mentally went " screaming off into the woods" .... After taking a really hard turn from what he told me he was doing ( writing the human interest story, a true biography of Townsend Brown) to suddenly declaring that because he hadn't found the " secret" to the technology Dad was working on that suddenly now his entire life was..... not valid.

How do you get from that point to the other point without a whole lot of help from outside influences. In the message that was above this post Paul was really asking the proper questions. What happened?

Some of you know the dispute that I have had on the forum called the Quonset Hut. The same man who ran that forum into the ground is the same man that Paul Schatzkin met just a month before he quit. Tell me that is a coincidence?   I will TRY to believe you. But the agendas have been painfully obvious.

This story of this " technology" and the understanding of it is as important as the developments that will spring from it. And there are dark forces out there that don't want that to happen.....They can be easily spotted but not always identified.   Linda

[undo11]

linda,

personally, i'm not a big fan of boogeymen, and by that i don't mean fictitious scary guys, i mean, people who deliberately try to scare you, to elicit a response.  creepy, in other words.   i don't do creepy. if creepy comes around, i pull out my evangelical hat and start to preachin'.   so this boogeyman you have, who is throwing wrenches in the works of things and scaring you just a little too much, is currently on my "hmm, i think i feel a sermon coming on."   that's my only valid response.  it bugs me that it bugs you that much.  no body should be afraid of each other. 

[Amaterasu]

I wish I had an answer, Linda.  It would be great if I did.  I just know that NOW is the time for free energy to flow.

[Linda Brown]

Oh and I am sure that you could come up with a scathing sermon too Beth!
But what you are seeing from me is not fear. Just recognition that such agendas DO exist and they are ACTIVELY still working to suppress the information on my Dads work from getting into the proper hands ( which to me is everyone who has a stake in the future).

I do not fear these bogeymen.... but I do regard them with the cautious respect that they deserve. (Sort of like spoting a rattlesnake)

These are not a band of lightweight malcontents ( though they will use those types as their dull tools in certain situations).... They are individuals with a solid reason for " throwing monkeywrenches" in the forward going flow of information about my Dad. I am not going to pretend that I know all of their reasons.... that goes beyond my paygrade.... but I recognize them by their " works".

And you will too when you start being even more aware of their activities. You and others like you are their worst nightmare. They can't "handle" you.  Linda

[Linda Brown]

 wish I had an answer, Linda.  It would be great if I did.  I just know that NOW is the time for free energy to flow.

Then THAT'S the answer.  NOW is the time.   Linda