A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[Amaterasu]

The devices with no military applications they have to be a lot more sneaky about disappearing.

Been my experience that EVERYTHING that they wish to call "attached to military applications."... is suddenly " attached to military applications" without too much of an explanation to anyone.

And what the military has a hard time grabbing in the white world without explainations..... the black ops attached to them has no problems at all and no one to answer to either.   Linda

Very true!

[undo11]

hobbit,

i think time is local to the observer, so if they used a device to modify time, it would effect their timeline only. no one else would be effected.   everywhere you go, there you are.

[undo11]

at one point in revelation it says time would be no more.  i thought that was an odd thing to say, very odd.  how could "time" not exist.  then i considered a possible additional layer, relating to the planet saturn.  at the time it was not called saturn nor did it have anything to do with khronos, as far as i know, but it's a future prophecy, and as a prophecy, it could be relating things relevant to the future observer.   perhaps the text was saying saturn is blown up or something.   

prophecy is about the only thing i can think of that has the potential to modify time for alot of people simultaneously, by causing people to behave in a certain way in anticipation of its fulfillment.

[A51Watcher]

at one point in revelation it says time would be no more.  i thought that was an odd thing to say, very odd.  how could "time" not exist.  then i considered a possible additional layer, relating to the planet saturn.  at the time it was not called saturn nor did it have anything to do with khronos, as far as i know, but it's a future prophecy, and as a prophecy, it could be relating things relevant to the future observer.   perhaps the text was saying saturn is blown up or something.   

prophecy is about the only thing i can think of that has the potential to modify time for alot of people simultaneously, by causing people to behave in a certain way in anticipation of its fulfillment.

Might I add that when using gravity amplifiers for propulsion across the universe, 'time is no more'.

Could traveling through a stargate have the same effect?


That's the thought that struck me when I read your post.

[undo11]

Might I add that when using gravity amplifiers for propulsion across the universe, 'time is no more'.

Could traveling through a stargate have the same effect?


That's the thought that struck me when I read your post.

oh that's interesting!

[rdunk]

undo said, "At one point in Revelation it says time would be no more.  I thought that was an odd thing to say, very odd.  how could "time" not exist"?

I have taken that quote about the heavenly future to mean time will cease, because there will be no more use for it.

Now, everything is happening within our brief lifetimes of  <100 years, with "death" facing us. So, we must relate time to everything we do, to keep it all straight, until the end.

Then, eternity is eternity, and "time" will not even have meaning, in the sense of forever, in a "spirit world". No times, no ages,  no death, no disease, no sadness, no sorrow, no...................................................................such.  Those are just a few of the promises from the same book as is the "Revelation" you mentioned. Yep, no clocks!!

I also would guess that the "time shall be no more" statement would fit right in with the statement of "one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years is as one day", in that same book (2nd Peter 3/8) 

[undo11]

undo said, "At one point in Revelation it says time would be no more.  I thought that was an odd thing to say, very odd.  how could "time" not exist"?

I have taken that quote about the heavenly future to mean time will cease, because there will be no more use for it.

Now, everything is happening within our brief lifetimes of  <100 years, with "death" facing us. So, we must relate time to everything we do, to keep it all straight, until the end.

Then, eternity is eternity, and "time" will not even have meaning, in the sense of forever, in a "spirit world". No times, no ages,  no death, no disease, no sadness, no sorrow, no...................................................................such.  Those are just a few of the promises from the same book as is the "Revelation" you mentioned. Yep, no clocks!!

I also would guess that the "time shall be no more" statement would fit right in with the statement of "one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years is as one day", in that same book (2nd Peter 3/8) 

yep! read it, many times.
also noticed that science says if you were to travel fast enough, the time on earth would've passed slower, and you could come back to earth and have had only a few hours pass for you whereas the earth have a great deal more time pass.  i forget the exact equation but i bet there's one for 1-1000 ratio.

[hobbit]

TIME is GRAVITY.
Keely.

Time is not linear.
Undo 11 is a time machine, as are all living entities.

Undo 11 You exist in Your own unique time bubble, but it is within the Earths similer,and the earth is within the suns similer, which is within the galaxies similer .

The inputs into all of this are in a continuum of variation in multiple phase conjugation vectors.
Phase conjugation means in both directions at once directly opposite each other.
But they are not travelling at exactly the same rate, thus time occurs.

Look at the picture I use on here, it was carefully chosen, a torroidal ring.
Think of a flow circulating such , in both directions at once, to simplify that think of a figure of eight, and time flowing out from the centre , it's similer to breathing in/out, a decompression occurs as time goes out towards the outer edge of the figure of eight, then an implosion back into the centre.

ONLY at the centre will time meet itself again.
Think of the centre as a PINCH point, and as time nears such it will compress and eventually pass itself.....thats where no time is.

Then a reverse of spin will occur to both flows.

At the centre pinch point I doubt the sun will shine, and then it will appear to the observer that the sun has reversed it's pathway.
hobbit

[undo11]

TIME is GRAVITY.
Keely.

Time is not linear.
Undo 11 is a time machine, as are all living entities.

Undo 11 You exist in Your own unique time bubble, but it is within the Earths similer,and the earth is within the suns similer, which is within the galaxies similer .

The inputs into all of this are in a continuum of variation in multiple phase conjugation vectors.
Phase conjugation means in both directions at once directly opposite each other.
But they are not travelling at exactly the same rate, thus time occurs.

Look at the picture I use on here, it was carefully chosen, a torroidal ring.
Think of a flow circulating such , in both directions at once, to simplify that think of a figure of eight, and time flowing out from the centre , it's similer to breathing in/out, a decompression occurs as time goes out towards the outer edge of the figure of eight, then an implosion back into the centre.

ONLY at the centre will time meet itself again.
Think of the centre as a PINCH point, and as time nears such it will compress and eventually pass itself.....thats where no time is.

Then a reverse of spin will occur to both flows.

At the centre pinch point I doubt the sun will shine, and then it will appear to the observer that the sun has reversed it's pathway.
hobbit

was just thinking ya know, if you make a choice to alter your time frame by crossing a time barrier where it is a hour earlier than it was where you came from, you are the only person that change in time effects, as the people already in that time, are experiencing time as normal, and people in the time zone you came from, unless they cross the time zone as well, will continue to experience time as normal.  your choice is not effecting anyone but you.  so the idea someone could create a time device that could cause everyone's time to change simultaneously, would be more likely to be a different timeline in which the time chosen by the device, is the time the person is in.  he/she changed his/her time zone, as it were. 

same for time passing slower as you increase speed.  you are the only one that is effecting unless you have a fellow or fellow travellers who are travelling with you.  meanwhile, on earth, time continues at its normal pace.

[Littleenki]

TIME is GRAVITY.
Keely.

Time is not linear.
Undo 11 is a time machine, as are all living entities.

Undo 11 You exist in Your own unique time bubble, but it is within the Earths similer,and the earth is within the suns similer, which is within the galaxies similer .

The inputs into all of this are in a continuum of variation in multiple phase conjugation vectors.
Phase conjugation means in both directions at once directly opposite each other.
But they are not travelling at exactly the same rate, thus time occurs.

Look at the picture I use on here, it was carefully chosen, a torroidal ring.
Think of a flow circulating such , in both directions at once, to simplify that think of a figure of eight, and time flowing out from the centre , it's similer to breathing in/out, a decompression occurs as time goes out towards the outer edge of the figure of eight, then an implosion back into the centre.

ONLY at the centre will time meet itself again.
Think of the centre as a PINCH point, and as time nears such it will compress and eventually pass itself.....thats where no time is.

Then a reverse of spin will occur to both flows.

At the centre pinch point I doubt the sun will shine, and then it will appear to the observer that the sun has reversed it's pathway.
hobbit

At the pinch point, we would shine back at the sun, eh hobbit?
The sun itself would be centered on a pinch point, and it sees nothing of us.
When we are born, that is just the beginning of the next assemblage of matter, forming our bodies, and as we age this process slows, and becomes dead. Then we begin back along that same path, as our bodies return back to a state of disassemblage, and we cease to exist as meat and tissue.
Bones however take millenia to degrade, and thats why our bones arent really a part of our life force, and are just the framework for holding the actual life being we are. Of course bones are alive while we walk about, but what do they turn into when we arent? Right on, calcium and a few minerals with hardly anything else. A spent framework, like the shell of a burned skyscarper.

Life and death, time and gravity, all forces with solid foundations in theory, yet forces we will never completely understand, as we arent supposed to. A million explanations, each more correct and incorrect than the next....a perfect phase conjugation of facts, with a cloak of secrecy placed over it by some sentient force, we have no clue about. Some say GOD, or aliens, but the truth is, we dont travel anywhere, we dont die, and there is no such thing as time as we know it.
As you say Hobbit, we relocate within this field, and when we feel time or gravity, it's just the movement of these memory fields through the so called aether.

Ah, such a curious lifeform we are, trying to figure out the impossible, but at least if we approach it from an esoteric standpoint we can speculate with some certainty, we are spiralling in and out for eternity, in a time when there is no time.

Memory fields are what I think are responsible for gravity and the aether's movement, and these fields are always imploding faster than they are appearing, so we get that effect of being pushed down into the Earth's core, where something really cool is happening....Time as we know it.
The difference.

Seems the earth has a heart center, too Hobbit, doesnt it?

And yes, as you say, everything IS scalar!

Cheers!
Littleenki

[1Worldwatcher]

Anyone ever contiplate eth effects of "Jet Lag" as a possible form of time meridian effect due to traveling the Lat. lines? I know the significance of Long. line, but as we navigate through time zones, and some seem to think this is caused by time lines of ahead and behind, but maybe this is the physical effect of time travel itself?

Just a thought.

1Worldwatcher

[7redorbs]

This is what the ancients must have believed too... I wonder about this idea of " purifying blood" came from ... and the idea of "cleansing organs and bone marrow" is interesting too..... going way out on the limb here......( old saying.... cause thats where the fruit is) and I want to wonder out loud if ancient space travelers exposed to impurities in the environment here wouldn't value something that actually DID remove impurities.

This is why I am with the affirmed belief that the hundreds of thousands of witnesses to "demons of hell" and "UFO's" and "Alien's" have historically for thousands of years been associated with a smell of Sulfur. What is Sulfur? It is a strong anti parisitic and antitoxicant.

If you were a demon, or an alien. Why would you smell of sulfur.

A little observation.

Best,
A

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[Linda Brown]

Perhaps another question might be... if you are a witness and believe that you are seeing a " demon" or an "alien"... why would you at the same time be smelling sulfur?

Look at some of the reports. Its easy enough to wonder if the witnesses were seeing " aliens" BECAUSE of the smell of sulfur.

Remember the Oracle of Delphi ( there were actually many of them and their abilities to converse with " other dimensions" and to see into the future made them so powerful that some leaders of the ancient world would not make a move without consulting the Oracle first? The oracle would slip into a seeming " trance".

I believe modern investigators discovered pockets of sulfur at Delphi and many have wondered if the gases in that area were part of the " experience"

Not a great favorite for most people.... sulphur springs smell like rotten eggs....

I haven't made a big study in this direction but it looks like it might have some merit... following your question.... why sulfur? And what might be the connection?  Linda

[Littleenki]

One of the best sources for sulfur smells is shallow ground water.

When we sprinkle our yards here in FLA, it stinks if the well is shallow, so should we ask...why does ground water come to the surface when these sightings or encounters take place, and what is the reasoning for bringing this well water to the surface?

Are their methods for travel linked to groundwater, and is it possible their bodies or craft actually are interacting with the shallow aquifers as the ground plane, pulling the water in mist form to the surface?

Didnt Tesla like to build over shallow aquifers?

Lots of theories here...at least for me!

I would think the visitors dont need to use a simple thing like sulfur if they possessed such high technology. They would have something way more sophistcated and subtle.

But then again, they could use it for impact, as we recognize the smell as being somthing negative, and to keep us in fear with negativity would be an effective weapon.

Le

[Linda Brown]

Interesting take Littleenki.

I know that this might be tough but I would like to pull the topic here back a little closer to the opening statement. We have strayed a bit and all of those really great conversations are just enough off topic to be difficult to find.... Back please to

" Why Electrogravitics might be dangerous" Or some discussion even close to that?

Hobbit would talk about memory fields.
And if something can act upon those " memory fields" for transportantion between dimensions.... then possibly if it uses that... could it encourage other things to " forget" what they are? If an atom " forgets" its bonds to make it what it is.... what happens?

All important since there are many now wanting to see the Electrogravitic technology released to the public.
It would be important then I think to really understand it first.?   Linda