A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[Linda Brown]

And I have missed ya Undo! The place lost some of its flavor.

"hey if'n ya want me to get involved i can.  i mean, if you miss my paranoid negative side, i can probably arrange a visit.  lol not that hard to do, ya know?  which makes me wonder what you folks are up to, anyway.  you yell at me for being paranoid and negative and i come back and find all this negative paranoid stuff going on.

Want to ask yourself why that might be?
Maybe when you left something turned its attentions elsewhere? ( For those who believe thats just my imagination.... your points are well taken.... but my opinion still stands)

I am actually relieved that you have " turned over a new leaf!" before all this broke out here.

How are you doing by the way? How is the new leaf attitude treating you?

Linda

[Mikado]

OK.... You guys want to know my beef with Mikado straight out? Its very simple actually.

Hobbit says this

"then how stupid could one be to start playing about with the very basic building blocks of LIFE.
hobbit"

And he was VERY accurate. And Mikado mentions in one of his tests that the thing " sang" in a way he had never heard. Do any of you remember that particular post?

Sang!.... and he wonders why I am upset over the fact that he has basically decided long ago to " go it on his own" and that he knows so much more than anyone else around him.

And yet it "sings" and he doesn't know what that means.

I have no words for the contempt I have for that brand of irresponsible scientific exploration. Especially when he ( of all people) knows the potential of this thing.

. So there you have it. No words are just about what its worth..... and I suppose that really its too late now. Mikado is so smug in thinking that no one will come down his lane but its not he alone that will suffer.

And maybe John was right after all.   Linda

A few things need to be corrected here for those that have not worked in any technical field related to EM.

"Sang" is a term that refers to how EM sounds under load. It is what I heard as a young boy from old timers and I have referred to it as that ever since. For example, when an electric motor operates, an experienced person can listen to it and tell what the load is, in other words, it will sing to you.

A good deal of equipment will do this. High tension wires will sing and if you know what to listen for you can tell the load and the humidity.

I can see that the use of the term "sang" has been twisted into something esoterical as if the device was communicating. It was not. When High Voltage is applied to a capacitor it will make a noise. An experienced person can tell characteristics about it.

Some old techs will say that the motor, the transformer etc will talk to you, instead of sing, and if you know what your listening to, it can tell you a good deal about how it is operating.

As to Hobbit being accurate about Life and EG, I can't comment for I have no technical data, and no one has presented any such data to date, that any EG device etc will have a link to life itself.

Now of course someone will say that the body has an EM component so therefore it must presumably have an EG component as well. It more than likely does, however, we have been using devices based upon EM for quite a few years and as I sit here typing away this post I am not affected by it.

It has been noted in the quote that I am being irresponsible in my work. Well, not getting into the fact that I have been portrayed as falling flat on my face and quitting and now I am proceeding irresponsibly I don't quite know how to approach this other than they don't know what they are talking about and are only "presuming" any effects.

I find this thread to be giving out nothing more than "chicken little" information and that I find reprehensible and stifling to the human endeavour in discovering mysteries of the universe.

Will this lead to a situation as Madame Curie? I don't know but if it wasn't for her, well, I wouldn't be alive today and writing this. Great discoveries require great tenacity. Theodore Roosevelt was a hero of mine. A gentleman gave me print of a quote of his 21 years ago and I have it on the wall of my lab.

Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.

Sometimes new science will require a leap of faith, it may be off a bottomless precipice or it may be only a 3 foot drop.

Mikado

[undo11]

linda

need a bit more gold to loosen my brain up enough to recall.  hehe donations gratefully accepted. clicky the little gold thingy on the side there.   (just kidding!)

hmm, in answer to your question, i'm pondering lord of the rings. 



in the scene, gandalf is talking to frodo, who is asking about the history of the one ring that gandalf has discovered the identity of.  the scene switches to gandalf going to minas tirith, to read the account of isildur,  who was the last person to be seen with the one ring. 

gandalf sifts thru the pages and finds the account and reads it.  it talks about how isildur became obsessed with it. kinda reminds me of your journey to uncover what your dad knew.   it's like an obsession.   you need to write a good book to exercise all that out of ya, cause i don't like reading yet another account of how everybody is evil and all that, every time something even minor goes wrong.   

[Linda Brown]

You could very well be right Undo. You said
"you need to write a good book to exercise all that out of ya, cause i don't like reading yet another account of how everybody is evil and all that, every time something even minor goes wrong.   

They say that writing a journal or a diary has elements of that.... that you can write what is really bugging you.... get it out on paper... and then almost magically its almost as if the paper has been given the responsibility of taking care of those thoughts .... and the writer is free of them.

A new book project is like that too.... especially if it is formed as a science fiction.... I can write what I want.... say what I want.... and let history figure out the value of what I have written. They can use it to put certain historical dots together or they can be simply entertained. I won't care because I will have finished what has been expected of me.. At least the story will be out there.

I have heard some writers say that they absolutely had to write a certain story because... Like you said... they were obsessed with it. Have you ever wondered where that sort of obsessive inspiration comes from?

Of course I kind of react to the word " obsessive " in a negative way.... I would rather consider myself dedicated to this cause.... but the word obsessed works fine too. Just a matter of how you want to look at it.

And ultimately this whole situation will resolve itself and it will probably do it through the actions of other people so I have probably done all that was really expected of me so far.... I reacted against the thought that people I knew and loved were being " swept under the rug" and forgotten to history and their lives and accomplishments were being forgotten and or misrepresented. . Some can let that happen and just shrug and say.... "oh well, too bad" .... and some can't. I am one of those who can't.... especially when I realize that there is something really horrendous at stake here....

But I think that many of you here are right. There are some who will see what the technology actually is and what it represents for our future and some who won't....... and there isn't I think a hill of beans more that I can do about it...

So I hope you have been having fun with your new leaf. I am still sort of looking for mine.   Linda

[Mikado]

His actions surprise me because Mikado I thought was was an engineer well versed in Internet stuff.... and as such I would think that there may be other explanations for someone posting from the same address. Lets see how many of them could there be?


Linda

In the offset chance that anyone is curious, my Degree is in Electronic Engineering and not the Internet. I never claimed to know the Internet that well, in fact, I had to hire someone for dealing with the Hut.

There is a big difference between the Internet and the type of Engineer I am. That is why there are specialists.

Just FYI

Mikado

[Linda Brown]

You can be exceptionally " well versed " in something Mikado without having to have a degree in it..( Just as Dad was)..so I am not sure what you are trying to say here.

But thank you for bringing your Electronic background up..(my Degree is in Electronic Engineering) ..I think most people would like to hear what your actual experience in this field is.... since I am sure that you have been presented and accepted as a recognized expert in the technology of Townsend Brown.    Linda

[Mikado]

You can be exceptionally " well versed " in something Mikado without having to have a degree in it..( Just as Dad was)..so I am not sure what you are trying to say here.

But thank you for bringing you Electronic background up..(my Degree is in Electronic Engineering) ..I think most people would like to hear what your actual experience in this field is.... since I am sure that you have been presented and accepted as a recognized expert in the technology of Townsend Brown.    Linda

Yeah, right. I suppose you would like me to post my CV?

Not going to happen, you have done enough damage to my family and I by posting personal info on your site.

I will still contain my anonymity and will be very careful who I trust in the future for the protection of my family.

Thank God the custom is for daughters to change their last name when they marry.

Just a bit that I bit at, sorry SO

Mikado

[Linda Brown]

I am not interested in you posting your personal information Mikado but I do think that the people here who are accepting you ..... as you just said.... with a degree in Electronics to at least give us a little more information in that direction. They are trusting in your words here.... and I don't see why you couldn't oblige them . Its a simple request.

How much actual schooling have you had in the field that you profess to know so well?

Linda

[Mikado]

I am not interested in you posting your personal information Mikado but I do think that the people here who are accepting you ..... as you just said.... with a degree in Electronics to at least give us a little more information in that direction. They are trusting in your words here.... and I don't see why you couldn't oblige them . Its a simple request.

How much actual schooling have you had in the field that you profess to know so well?

Linda

More than your Father.

Mikado

[Linda Brown]

My Dad never got a Doctorate or any degree. Every one here knows that. Why are you being so evasive?  Linda

[Mikado]

My Dad never got a Doctorate or any degree. Every one here knows that. Why are you being so evasive?  Linda

So that everyone will know, this is how this will work out.

I will say what I have from where, then some individual will want to track me down.

I do not wish a repeat of what you did to my parents or having individuals showing up at the farm and further, this is not the forum to start this in.

I want my anonymity and if you can't understand that then too bad but others here do understand the concept.

This ends now. If you don't wish to believe me, no sweat off my back but I am sure that those that are educated will be able to tell from my writing that I do have a good understanding and education which is a bit better than your own.

Mikado

[Amaterasu]

Funny. English is funny.

Car Wash is not the water from washing cars.

Rightfully it paints a conflicting picture!

And speaking of definitions.....Amaterasu.... since you have put so much into your efforts with Electrogravitational stuff..... doesn't it concern you that some people keep confusing it with " lifters'?

Linda

I do believe there is a component - and likely the larger of the components - that is electrogravitic in lifters.  The air is serving as the dielectric...  And there is some small assist through the "ion wind."  At least that's how I understand it.  [smile]

But of course, to get serious lift, a non-linear, high K dielectric would be optimal for EG experimentation.  And, of course, VERY high voltage.

[Mikado]

And, of course, VERY high voltage.

What do you base that statement upon?

Mikado

[Amaterasu]

The book, Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, by Dr. Pail A. LaViolette.

As for Your CV, I would not like to know details, like, "Got degree from XYZ University, worked as [whatever] at LMQ company..."

I would like to have something like, "Got Degree (specify) at an institution specializing in [whatever], worked as a [whatever] for 5 years, worked as a [whatever] for two years, ect.

As for Me, I have no degree, but have tested as "genius" in spatial perception, with other areas all in the 98th or 99th percentile, worked in banking for 14 years, worked in graphics for 15 years, and have studied on My own, chaos theory, fractals, emergence, social engineering, psychology, with interest in the tipping point.  I also have been a writer all My life, and have published articles, manuals, ads, short stories, a novella and a book.

Just so You don't think I am asking of You something I would not offer M'self.  [grin]

[undo11]

*grabs the popcorn*