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Animals trying to speak to us?

Started by Captain Dave, April 28, 2012, 12:12:16 AM

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Captain Dave


Seal screaming out like a human asking:
How do I get out of here?


Goat yelling for Help?

















Sooo, what does that say about "humanity".

Shasta56

I was quite ill earlier this week.  My pale tortie, Luna, is an affectionate cat, but not usually a lap cat.  The three days I was feeling beyond "death warmed over," she wanted to be attached to me.  I'm feeling better now, and she's back to "Hi Mom, did you fill my food dish?"

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

Captain Dave

Quote from: Shasta56 on April 28, 2012, 03:55:36 AM
I was quite ill earlier this week.  My pale tortie, Luna, is an affectionate cat, but not usually a lap cat.  The three days I was feeling beyond "death warmed over," she wanted to be attached to me.  I'm feeling better now, and she's back to "Hi Mom, did you fill my food dish?"

Shasta

That's something I've noticed too. Animals are so attentive and attuned to us. They are sentient beings. Those living amongst us are capable of learning our language and many other things. Yet by most of humanity they are treated like they're just dumb and insignificant. 

Animals are usually more trust worthy, honorable, and kind than human beings. It seems completely plausible that human beings could have at one point lived side by side with all living creatures as friends and equals.

What I found so interesting about the last video is that the female "wild" lioness treated them as friends.

Shasta56

I saw the story of Christian a few years ago. That's a very large skull to get head-butted by.  He obviously remembered his friends.  I like to watch some of the animal stuff on AFV too.  They get some pretty intetesting things going.  I even had a cat years ago, that taught the younger cat to get him twinkies out of the cupboard.

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

Amaterasu

My favs were the cats, little and big.  The big one(s) made tears flow, it was so beautiful.

I didn't dare watch the chicken one...
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Captain Dave

#5
What gets me is that our planet is so out of balance. Human kind is so ready to jump out into space and find new sentient life, yet ignores and mistreats 99% of it right here at home.

Most sentient life forms portrayed to us in movies etc, look very similar to us. Here on Earth there are very few sentient beings that look like us. We are brainwashed to the greatest gifts right in front of us.




Imagine living side by side with all the species of our planet as friends.          Does that sound impossible?




( If so, please watch the last video again... That is a ~wild~ lioness. )

Why is it that we are so blind? Have we been tricked or brainwashed? I would think any advanced race that is  watching us  would be waiting for us to learn our own surroundings and prove we are not "savages" before allowing us access to their world.

To balance our planet we must see many truths hidden directly in plain sight. True respect, understanding, love and compassion has been lost to the majority of our society. Evils needs to be recognized in order for goodness to prevail.

Take for granted what is in this World, and we will fail again and again for countless generations. To pass "the test" there is far more than one thing we have to do.

sky otter



( If so, please watch the last video again... That is a ~wild~ lioness. )

actually that is not a wild lioness
the story is an old one and reaally great without changing the details

here are the two men in the story telling the tale 35 years after the fact..
good vid here but i couldn't move it
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/25797678/ns/today-money/t/man-hugging-lion-video-reveals-its-secrets/


captain dave
the only ones who think animals are stupid are folks who have never lived with one ot two
or even several
persaonlly i don't think i could make it without my critters..

Littleenki

A wise choice for a thread, Cap'n D, and it's the animals who own this planet, we are the interlopers.LOL!
I feel as a human, I am placed here in this container for a profound reason, and one of the tests we face is our ability to appreciate and interact with other lifeforms, like animals, and so forth. Of course we dont want to interact with a great white shark so much, but that doesnt mean those sharks dont have something wise to add to the conversation.
As much as an animal can be a symbiotic creature, or a distant aloof friend, they have an ability to communicate on another level we will never know, and what they are saying is very very true.
"You humans better get your s%$t together soon, because weve seen the results of you all getting wiped out before, and it's coming again!"

So, with every living thing I observe, I also try to observe their lifeforce as a benefit to me, and even when killing those fire ants, I think "wow, it would suck if some 450 foot tall creature poured a caustic chemical on my entire family, and wiped us from existence with one fell swoop"

The creatures and such, we share the world with are far beyond our mental capabilities so far, and any attempts to achieve that level by humans is futile. As we learn what they are saying or "suggesting", we see what we want to hear, and if we place ourselves in the paws and flippers of them, we will see how important they are to us.

In the case of animals for food, it is imperative to realize we dont need to eat them to survive, and thats why proteins are found in plants and other sources, for our use.
Unfortunately for the animals, cavemen liked the taste of meat, and werent privy to how to extract protein from plants, so here we are. meat eaters, like it or not.

I personally think the consumption of lifeforms other than ourselves is a necessary evil, but hell, plants grow back, and cows dont, so WTF people?

Im not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but I have made strides in finding the most ethical form of meats for my diet, and it's the least I can do to show the sentient lifeforce that I do feel bad, yet my dna has been so irrepairably altered, Ill always crave a steak.

If you are like me Capn D, and you are, as that wonderful butterfly story so firmly attests, Im sure it's for a good reason, and I will always lift a bumblebee out of the pool or springs, as they are the most amazing creatures on earth, and no less deserving of life than me or anyone.

When mankind can stand back and watch something die with impunity, it's the beginning of the end, and that came thousands of years ago, at the Tower of Babel.
Men working in unison towards a common goal, and those evil few who would stop the progress for eternity by dividing and separating the different peoples there with language barriers.

So, like the barrier we perceive between us and animals, the Tower of Babel was where it all went wrong...thanks a lot GOD!....or should I say brother Enlil?

Pet a dog, cat, or even a shark today if you so desire, just remember, they were here first, and theyll be here when were gone, and we are a blip on their existence, that can be waited out, as they are the chosen, not us.

The animals are here as our teachers, and the lesson is clear...live amongst the different, with one heart, and one mind! And exhibit a love for fellow lifeforms, whatever form they may take, yes folks, aliens included!

Cheers!
Littleenki
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

Captain Dave

#8
Quote from: sky otter on April 28, 2012, 04:37:20 PM

( If so, please watch the last video again... That is a ~wild~ lioness. )

actually that is not a wild lioness
the story is an old one and reaally great without changing the details

here are the two men in the story telling the tale 35 years after the fact..
good vid here but i couldn't move it
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/25797678/ns/today-money/t/man-hugging-lion-video-reveals-its-secrets/


captain dave
the only ones who think animals are stupid are folks who have never lived with one ot two
or even several
persaonlly i don't think i could make it without my critters..
Sorry about the mis-info... I saw the video and thought the way they stated things that the lioness was wild. It turns out there were two lionesses - Mona & Lisa. Both were trapped and later given to Adamsen for rehabilitation before being released back into the wild with Christian as the prides male Lion.

My Mother lives in a wooded area and feeds various wild animals often by hand. My Wife feeds birds & feral cats and is one of the only people around that they trust for some reason. So I just thought this was more of the same.


I've hung out with alot of different animals as well... Seems like the communication skills between "us" and "them" have been diminished over time for some reason.


hobbit

I grew up thinking Mr Ed really could talk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0eoStyRPJ8&feature=related

Communication other than verbal is via our largely dormant senses, and our animal friends must find humans really quite dumb?
And the plant life forms also, I think this discussion could well dovetail with electrogravitics
hobbit

sky otter



lol..Hobbit
i think this discussion  could dove tail with most any other
it's all a matter of communication skills - which us humans usually stink at because
of ego or fear

if you are open to it  ... everything speaks to us

i have feral rescue cats in the barn..got 'em spayed..that was fun but they are happy cats
the house cats will sit at the door ..look over their shoulder with a look that says..hey human door person, get over here.. ;D
now the dogs..that's an entire different skill set..
right now we are having a fun time putting  extra butternuts (from our tree)..out for the squirrels
i don't think i have ever laughed so hard as watching those greedy little rats in fur coats vie for who'se next to choose the perfect nut...

tons of critter stories from me..i like them better than most humans.. 8)

Amaterasu

Quote from: Captain Dave on April 28, 2012, 03:15:16 PM
What gets me is that our planet is so out of balance. Human kind is so ready to jump out into space and find new sentient life, yet ignores and mistreats 99% of it right here at home.

Most sentient life forms portrayed to us in movies etc, look very similar to us. Here on Earth there are very few sentient beings that look like us. We are brainwashed to the greatest gifts right in front of us.




Imagine living side by side with all the species of our planet as friends.          Does that sound impossible?




( If so, please watch the last video again... That is a ~wild~ lioness. )

Why is it that we are so blind? Have we been tricked or brainwashed? I would think any advanced race that is  watching us  would be waiting for us to learn our own surroundings and prove we are not "savages" before allowing us access to their world.

To balance our planet we must see many truths hidden directly in plain sight. True respect, understanding, love and compassion has been lost to the majority of our society. Evils needs to be recognized in order for goodness to prevail.

Take for granted what is in this World, and we will fail again and again for countless generations. To pass "the test" there is far more than one thing we have to do.

Keep in mind that MOST of Us are very sensitive - but that money allows the root of evil to grow (the LOVE of money), and that most of the horrors are perpetrated by a very few with a LOT of power.  (Yes, some of Us have been twisted past Our Human compassion by this ill-fitting yoke of money, and choose to behave poorly, but, statistically, that number is insignificant.)
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Linda Brown

Communication skills... we could learn alot from animals. Especially their ability to assess a threat and walk away from it gracefully....

But I wanted to ask you Amaterasu... sort of a technical question and it is off the subject... I am sorry. You mention "money" as if it were your all time worst enemy. BUT

What if you embraced the use of it ( Lets just say that it was an inheritance..... say ten thousand dollars.
What would happen if you used that money for the things that you needed but dealt in CASH only. No credit.... no loans...nothing but cold hard cash.

What if all of your neighbors did the same thing. In fact what would happen if everyone in the nation refused to buy ANYTHING on credit or to take out loans....Purchasing  only with Cash.

Instantly the the person offering the best deal to you would be the one that you purchased from. No fancy financing for a car.... drive what you can pay for... cash... Period. And everyone else did exactly the same.

Think for a moment what that would do to the economy. Seriously. Most of the problems that I see is that we have overextended our selves into the credit burden that we tote around and THAT is what makes us slaves.... not the money itself.   Linda

Amaterasu

Linda,

As long as there is a money system - and by money I mean any NEED to exchange, as in barter, trade, work exchange, cash, checks, electronic funds... - there will be scarcity, poverty, hunger, control, class conflict, and war.  (War is incited for profit by the war profiteers.)

It is what emerges from that seed parameter in the chaos system which society is.  Replace that seed parameter with free energy (and robots to do all the necessary work no One wants to do), and abundance will flow to all of Us, the profit motive to incite wars, make things cheaply, planned obsolescence, consumerism, advertising, insurance, spam, fraud, theft, wage-slavery, greed, and most other ills in the scarcity paradigm will dissipate along with the need for money.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Captain Dave

#14
If we were able to communciate with the animal life on this planet, can you see how well organized everything would be?

Pollination, fertalization, seed dispersal, soil aeration... what else?


The war like nature that we have developed within our systems is detramental to our evolution and our very existence. Resources are being wasted and permanently damaged.

What happens to the tools of war... bombs etc from previous generations? We spent Billions of dollars on these unnecessary tools and continue to do so. Meanwhile neglecting Primary systems.

( In other words we foolishly throw away money and resources we can't afford in the first place. Then rob Peter to pay Paul. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that we've been spreading lies around our societies for far too long. No one likes to be fed BS and told it's candy, and we know when we are. )

I don't mean any one Country either, as most have fell into this trap. Spend Billions of dollars on Weapons and allow starvation, pollution and uneducation to flourish? That is a breeding nest for chaos, and that is not humane.

Spend money on World Wide Education and we will eliminate the seeds of hatred with seeds of knowledge instead. We will have no need for these expensive tools of war and we will flourish instead of wither.

At the very least if we spent that money on creating Peace instead of War and invested into the repair of our planet and societies, who would want war with us?

There comes a point when it is too late. There comes a point where you can not repair the damage. There comes a point when even something so loved and cherished is lost forever. There comes a point where there is nothing more that you can do but pray.

If there is Hope, if there is Reason left in us to do whats right, then we must take action, while there is still a chance.

This is our World - all of us in it, from the grasshopper to the leaders of nations, all are accountable. We can turn this place into a beautiful garden or a diseased festering dump.

I would rather live in a Graden in Peace than a Diseased Dump.

If we continue down this destructive path of pesticides, pollution and lack of respect for the balance within nature what result can we expect?




What can we use instead of pesticides? Bats, birds, insects...?

Can we not create filtration systems for these pollution emitting machines...?

Can we not create anything we want and use what we have to do it?

What can't we do correctly if we try?

Why is Evil being Allowed to prevail?




I have no doubt that we can create machines to both allow us to communicate via brain waves and also block them.

I have no doubt that we can create machines that will allow us to cross the Universe in seconds.

I have no doubt that we can fix what we have broken.

I have no doubt that we can create anything we can imagine.

I have no doubt that there is a God.

I have no doubt that there is a Devil.

My only doubt is in Humanity and I think many feel the same.

How do we fix that, because if we do then we will have it all.

If the animals aren't trying to speak to us, then they should be - telling us to get off our asses. lol

The way society is now, I don't want to invent anything, as it will only be taken away, hidden from the public, abused and or used as a weapon. I'm tired of lining the pockets of fools with gold.