The New Area 51 for Saucer spotting ?

[astr0144]

A51,

I just found another copy of the map that you posted...
With Ref to Johns comments about Wendover...


http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/showthread.php?745-Area-51-Fact-or-Faked-Amazing-craft!!!/page2


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I saved it to my HD quite a while back from one of the various forums John was posting on.

That is the best resolution I have for that one. Maybe someone around here has a better one.

[astr0144]

I also found a thread on  ATS for the Area 52 base.


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread314324/pg1

[zorgon]

I also found a thread on  ATS for the Area 52 base.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread314324/pg1

That is a very interesting post 

That thread was started by Norio Hayakawa in 2007    and this is an amazing confirmation

Originally posted by Norio Hayakawa

So excuse me if my understanding is incorrect but is this the area where Mr Lear thinks the amazing well hidden Sandia Base is?

Yes, the Sandia Corporation is within this extensive area and has been for many years.  I wouldn't be surprised if Sandia did have a separate small-scale underground research complex in this area as well.

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[zorgon]

I just found another copy of the map that you posted...
With Ref to Johns comments about Wendover...

LOL that was John's map purloined by Big Pappy...  That guy is quite a character

[astr0144]

Hi Zorgon,

Was Big Pappy not a member on PRC ?

This was interesting what he claims John had told him about A52
opening up like a Zipper ! and craft going in and out of a big hole in the ground....  seems like Thunderbirds ! :-) only these things may be ET related.   Also if there are DUMBs that connect and allow travel to various other Military bases, that is thought provoking at just how incredibly secretive and impressive all this could really be.

How I would really like to know what goes on there !

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Wow this is incredible I have to go look but John Lear sent me a map of exactly where this place is he calls it Area 52. And On google earth I remember it just looking very suspicious what was interesting about it was there were no mountains that you could go up and look down on this place. I know Lear has some serious Contacts that work as contractors and actual Base Workers he swears there's a Base near Wendover.

Some of what John Said is that when a craft comes in the ground opens like a Zipper and the craft goes in the ground then it Zipps back up could this be similar to what you saw Gigas?? Maybe the craft that was supposed to land at Groom went and landed at that sight because of people being around?? One must admit that something flew in the sky that night and it was not a meteor. Gigas could you please map out the area you spoke of?? And i will track down and post John Lears base near Wendover he may had been right.

[astr0144]

Hi Zorgon , John or anyone who can advise...

Is this a pilots map that John has specially  obtained ?

What ever it is I would like to see it in more detail if there is a version online that you can zoom in on or if there is a PDF doc of it... then that will allow one to zoom in..

Alternatively Id like to  obtain one...

Does anyone know what the Full description of the map is..
and what it is classed as...and what scale ?

eg, is it classed as a OS physical features map...

or is it a military or pilots Map of some sort ?




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LOL that was John's map purloined by Big Pappy...  That guy is quite a character

[zorgon]

Was Big Pappy not a member on PRC ?

Yeah he was for a while... but wanted me to delete his account. He fell in with Ed Fouche and Alien Scientist and started into a bash fest... they were part of the reason Open Minds was shut down.

That map and info was posted at Open Minds.  As to the map I think it is a pilot map. I will ask John today.  Some of the notations on it as I recall were made by John

What I find amusing is how they bash John at Alien Scientist and yet use his info. They even had the audacity to hot link to photos on my website. I actually blocked them

The attack posts over there are actually liable but seems John and Bob are not bothering to pursue that. They posted some outright lies about me as well but I put a stop to that real fast

[zorgon]

Hi Zorgon , John or anyone who can advise...

Is this a pilots map that John has specially  obtained ?

They are VFR maps and can be viewed at Flight Aware

http://flightaware.com/resources/airport/KLAS/sectional

[astr0144]

Hi Zorgon,

Thank you for your reply and info.

I note what you say about the map and I hope John can comment later...

That is quite concerning what you have said about BP and EF
at AS and how they effected OMs...

I suppose we all have to be careful when referring to someone including me if I comment now about what you have said...
BUT yes I agree what you say about their comments about John and Bob....

Before I was invited to PRC... I had just joined A.S and had been reading BPs comments on Bob and John back then...and I was not too pleased nor agreed with what he was saying...

So I think I know what you mean..

Id like to learn from you some day how to handle outright lies in the best manner...without threats or suggesting lawsuits There is no doubt an art to it.

and this no doubt applies to the real world as well as online.

I have a situation myself that I would like to know how best to go about it...

Although it no doubt depends upon the persons personality and abilities as to how well they can go about it successfully.

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Yeah he was for a while... but wanted me to delete his account. He fell in with Ed Fouche and Alien Scientist and started into a bash fest... they were part of the reason Open Minds was shut down.

That map and info was posted at Open Minds.  As to the map I think it is a pilot map. I will ask John today.  Some of the notations on it as I recall were made by John

What I find amusing is how they bash John at Alien Scientist and yet use his info. They even had the audacity to hot link to photos on my website. I actually blocked them

The attack posts over there are actually liable but seems John and Bob are not bothering to pursue that. They posted some outright lies about me as well but I put a stop to that real fast

[Amaterasu]

What I don't understand is why the boards are all too vitriolic against one another.  Makes no sense to Me.  Must be a money thing.

Anyway, the maps do bring back memories of living in LV.  [sigh]

[Linda Brown]

Amaterasu... you said
What I don't understand is why the boards are all too vitriolic against one another.  Makes no sense to Me.  Must be a money thing.

I will ask anyone who knows about the history of these other boards. Was it a money thing? It would not surprise me if , like Amy, no one can figure out WHY it happened..... happens.... is continuing to happen....... in some other boards.....   Linda

[The Seeker]

Amaterasu... you said
What I don't understand is why the boards are all too vitriolic against one another.  Makes no sense to Me.  Must be a money thing.

I will ask anyone who knows about the history of these other boards. Was it a money thing? It would not surprise me if , like Amy, no one can figure out WHY it happened..... happens.... is continuing to happen....... in some other boards.....   Linda

May I propose that it is an animal of many faces; part of it is the school yard bully syndrome " Hey, I'm right about everything and y'all are full of it."

Parts of it may be tied to money made from advertising and the competition for it...

but I also submit that much of it is a deliberate attempt to either discredit or push massive amounts of dis-info...

too often when something hits too close to home it is assailed and beaten into the dust...


seeker

[Linda Brown]

Precisely. And it is my theory that the folks doing it don't even realize why they are actually doing it.... They just suddenly " feel " like it.....Linda

[sky otter]

smurfs !!!!

[Amaterasu]

Amaterasu... you said
What I don't understand is why the boards are all too vitriolic against one another.  Makes no sense to Me.  Must be a money thing.

I will ask anyone who knows about the history of these other boards. Was it a money thing? It would not surprise me if , like Amy, no one can figure out WHY it happened..... happens.... is continuing to happen....... in some other boards.....   Linda

May I propose that it is an animal of many faces; part of it is the school yard bully syndrome " Hey, I'm right about everything and y'all are full of it."

Parts of it may be tied to money made from advertising and the competition for it...

but I also submit that much of it is a deliberate attempt to either discredit or push massive amounts of dis-info...

too often when something hits too close to home it is assailed and beaten into the dust...


seeker

Yes, there are many reasons, and agents in the midst to whip this caca up.  If We all were to join - like those of Us here have - in trying to uncover the Truth...  We'd get a lot farther.