Aether Displacement

[Mikado]

I do not see why you think a medium must be spacially ordered to propagate waves.  It is NOT KNOWN how EM waves (light) propogate through the ether.  It is a mystery.

Agreed.

Mikado

[mpc755]

This is semantic nonsense.

So it is a fluid, one with no viscosity: A superfluid.

Like a fluid (gas) it fills all space available and can be displaced without causing friction - completely unlike a solid.

I do not see why you think a medium must be spacially ordered to propagate waves.  It is NOT KNOWN how EM waves (light) propogate through the ether.  It is a mystery.

The whole reason for the Michelson-Morley experiment was that it was thought the aether had to be a solid in order to support transverse waves. That is why the Michelson-Morley experiment looked for a stationary aether the Earth moved through.

'Superfluid Is Shown To Have Property Of A Solid'
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/07/990730072958.htm

"Northwestern University physicists have for the first time shown that superfluid helium-3 -- the lighter isotope of helium, which is a liquid that has lost all internal friction, allowing it to flow without resistance and ooze through tiny spaces that normal liquids cannot penetrate -- actually behaves like a solid in its ability to conduct sound waves."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfliud with properties of a solid; a supersolid.

[mpc755]

Mass does not displace the aether.

Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined trajectory which takes it through one slit while the associated aether wave passes through both.

[Linda Brown]

The whole reason for the Michelson-Morley experiment was that it was thought the aether had to be a solid in order to support transverse waves. That is why the Michelson-Morley experiment looked for a stationary aether the Earth moved through.[/color

]And after that experiment the stampede started discounting the aether entirely. They were mistaken. Linda

[mpc755]

And after that experiment the stampede started discounting the aether entirely. They were mistaken. Linda

The Michelson-Morley experiment disproved a stationary aether the Earth moved through. The Sagnac effect disproved a completely entrained aether. The aether is neither stationary nor completely entrained by the Earth. Aether is displaced by matter.

[Linda Brown]

MPC.... you said quite awhile ago that you figured all of this out " On your own" about thirty years ago.

Can you tell us how this revealation came to you? Was it the result of painstaking lab work? Or study of work before you? Or did it just occur to you sort of " out of the blue"

Its always interesting to see the seed of passion before it sprouts.

Linda

[mpc755]

MPC.... you said quite awhile ago that you figured all of this out " On your own" about thirty years ago.

Can you tell us how this revealation came to you? Was it the result of painstaking lab work? Or study of work before you? Or did it just occur to you sort of " out of the blue"

Its always interesting to see the seed of passion before it sprouts.

Linda

Intuition and common sense.

[Linda Brown]

OK.... intuition...... and common sense.

I like those qualities. I try to use them all the time.
But can your remember what particularly it was that you felt.....and when you felt it? What was the process that this intuition took to reach what is obviously a grand passion for you now. Alot of people have intuition and common sense but that does not lead them to the path that you have taken.

A little more information about what happened thirty years ago?   Linda

[mpc755]

OK.... intuition...... and common sense.

I like those qualities. I try to use them all the time.
But can your remember what particularly it was that you felt.....and when you felt it? What was the process that this intuition took to reach what is obviously a grand passion for you now. Alot of people have intuition and common sense but that does not lead them to the path that you have taken.

A little more information about what happened thirty years ago?   Linda

Thirty years ago when I graduated from college I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life and one of the things I wanted to do was to make a difference, have my voice heard. I figured if I figured out gravity then my voice would be heard, so that is what I did.

[Linda Brown]

So you decided ahead of time then that you were simply going to find out what gravity was.... and that would help you make your mark on the world.... and that was it?

Linda

[mpc755]

So you decided ahead of time then that you were simply going to find out what gravity was.... and that would help you make your mark on the world.... and that was it?

Linda

Pretty much. I had written a biography on Einstein as part of an astronomy class.

[Amaterasu]

Are You at all familiar with the work of LaViolette?  I think You might find it interesting to compare what You have figured out with what He has.

[Linda Brown]

Darn. How is it then I wonder that others have not been able to do that? Wouldn't that be wonderful! Decide what your future discoveries are going to be and then just go out and do them!

Maybe you were fortunate MPC.... perhaps you lucked out by not running into professors and other experts who tried to tell you that what you were doing was supposed to be impossible to their standards.... not knowing any different you just went out and did it.

I say terrific.

But now here comes the really hard part. You can't just say the words and make it so. Even if they are true. You can say true words until you are blue in the face and no one is going to listen to you until you have some solid lab proof that this has been proven and harking back to Einsteins ideas will not help you here. This has to be something of your own and it has to hold up....

The inspiration might have hit you easily but I think that you realize maybe that your work has just begun?

I understand what it is to see everything " In a flash" I do it sometimes..... and Dad did it too..... Now the work begins trying to explain that to the people around you. THATS when you start earning your gold stars in this Universe.  My very best to you for the future.  Linda

[mpc755]

Darn. How is it then I wonder that others have not been able to do that? Wouldn't that be wonderful! Decide what your future discoveries are going to be and then just go out and do them!

Maybe you were fortunate MPC.... perhaps you lucked out by not running into professors and other experts who tried to tell you that what you were doing was supposed to be impossible to their standards.... not knowing any different you just went out and did it.

I say terrific.

But now here comes the really hard part. You can't just say the words and make it so. Even if they are true. You can say true words until you are blue in the face and no one is going to listen to you until you have some solid lab proof that this has been proven and harking back to Einsteins ideas will not help you here. This has to be something of your own and it has to hold up....

The inspiration might have hit you easily but I think that you realize maybe that your work has just begun?

I understand what it is to see everything " In a flash" I do it sometimes..... and Dad did it too..... Now the work begins trying to explain that to the people around you. THATS when you start earning your gold stars in this Universe.  My very best to you for the future.  Linda

Here is an experiment which if performed and behaves as predicted would be a proof of principle model of aether displacement.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Kim_EtAl_Quantum_Eraser.svg

If beam splitter BSb is replaced with D4 the photons traveling the blue path which are detected at D1 and D2 may correspond with the interference patterns being created at D0. If this is the case then the which-way information of the photons will be known and this is evidence nothing is delayed, nothing is erased and de Broglie was correct.

It is evidence de Broglie was correct because it is evidence the particle traveling toward D0 has associated waves traveling both the red and blue paths and that wave interference is occurring prior to the particle being detected at D0 regardless of what else happens in the experiment.

[Pimander]

Mass does not displace the aether.
The aether causes mass to displace .

It doesn't matter which way round you put it.  It means EXACTLY THE SAME THING!

I'm just going to leave you guys to it I think.  Someone let me know if people start making sense or progress.