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Started by zorgon, June 24, 2012, 10:11:59 PM

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zorgon

Quote from: Mikado on July 01, 2012, 01:18:34 AM
As someone in history said - "only if I can put a meter on it and charge for it"

Well actually he said "Where can I put the meter" to Tesla's wireless power

And in all fairness he had a valid point. He built the power plant, he would have to build the Tesla towers to transmit that power and someone would have to build the receivers and converters to use that power at home

So why would anyone spend that time and money (millions) with no return, never mind profit?

Also all that energy being beamed around... has anyone considered the effects to humans and the environment form wireless power transmission?  Think about that cellphone doing brain damage and that is merely a small dose. Go climb a radio mast and see what it feels like

(disclaimer: No don't actually do this :P )

Money is not evil, it is a tool

Sure lets set up Pegasus Energy Consortium... not free energy, but cheap affordable energy, then use that money to fix real problems

And the sooner we can get a saucer off the ground that operates in space, we can go see what is really going on up there on Farside

SarK0Y

Amici, everything like levitation, teleportation etc.  & so on have been hella crushed up against such a simple moment (compact & a powerful source of the good ole energy).  ::)  to deal with powerful alternating magnetic fields seems too doubtful: it can destroy vehicle in no time thanks to emf tsunami.  ;) +needless to say, fusion reactors have the same deadly curse :)
I do What Me'n'Universum  want :-)

Mikado

Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on July 01, 2012, 02:06:14 AM
You are missing the entire mark here Mikado, I am speaking of natural frequencies, and no problem, you just didn't get it, all is good.
And thanks for you Post, it is not "Electricity" at all, it is ambient incursions of some fantastical materials, who knows, maybe when we have it all figured out , we will call it "Mikado" ...LOL And then again, maybe not.
Frequency is not electricity.

1Worldwatcher
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And that is what you were trying to say?

Your right, I missed the side of the barn with the proverbial Howitzer. I read the post in it's entirety and thought it was meant to be read in it's entirety. My mistake.

But as a codicil, I see so much on this forum, as I have witnessed in other forums, on the blending of terms, the use of terms that have specific meanings in certain fields that someone is using in a different scenario but giving it a different definition...so confusing.

And just a bit of advice, take it or leave it, but when you are making a post that starts out with electricity and then you go into frequency the natural interpretation is to combine frequency to electricity which is AC (Alternating Current) but your right, I should have figured it out from what you wrote.

I'll just sneak away for now.

Mikado

Mikado

Quote from: SarK0Y on July 01, 2012, 02:15:18 AM
Amici, everything like levitation, teleportation etc.  & so on have been hella crushed up against such a simple moment (compact & a powerful source of the good ole energy).  ::)  to deal with powerful alternating magnetic fields seems too doubtful: it can destroy vehicle in no time thanks to emf tsunami.  ;) +needless to say, fusion reactors have the same deadly curse :)

I love this guy!

to deal with powerful alternating magnetic fields seems too doubtful: it can destroy vehicle in no time thanks to emf tsunami.


It needs to be ...eloquent.

Mikado

Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on July 01, 2012, 02:12:03 AM
Sure lets set up Pegasus Energy Consortium... not free energy, but cheap affordable energy, then use that money to fix real problems
That makes sense to me. :)

Amaterasu

Quote from: Linda Brown on July 01, 2012, 01:29:31 AM
So if thats the way the systen works then find a way to exploit it to everyones benefit.

Charge for the power.... unlike what Amy has been saying.... set up grids... be the new Electric company.... but then.... fund programs that take most of that money. That way people appreciate what they are getting.... People appreciate things more when there is a price tag on it... have you noticed. Giving things away for free does not always have the desired results.

Oh... your new system would be cheaper maybe than electricity is today but there should still be a price....then funnel those funds into schools and research and taking care of the elderly. Everyone would benefit... because every one is so accustomed to that organization of business....

There should be a unique and creative way to keep the establishment but make it work for you, not against you.  Linda

Actually, I haven't noticed that People appreciate things more when there is a price tag on it.  I have noticed that People appreciate things more when given from the heart.  Kids get expensive stuff all the time and trash it.  Or, if it's not what They really wanted badly, become unhappy.  But when it is given with thought for exactly what would please Them, THEN they appreciate it - regardless of the price tag.  Something as simple as a pinecone picked up off the ground and given to anOther who adores pinecones will be far more appreciated than giving Them a car They don't need.

And when money is gone, and when cars can be had for the asking...only gifts from the heart will be given.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on July 01, 2012, 02:12:03 AM
Money is not evil, it is a tool

Agreed.  It is the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil...

QuoteSure lets set up Pegasus Energy Consortium... not free energy, but cheap affordable energy, then use that money to fix real problems

And the sooner we can get a saucer off the ground that operates in space, we can go see what is really going on up there on Farside

If We sell units that give free energy, We can make money that way at the outset...and eventually do away with the need for money.  And that WILL fix most problems - because most problems have money (LOVE of) at the root.

For if We do it any other way, We will be infiltrated and taken over the THEM, and no problems will permanently be solved.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Mikado

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 01, 2012, 03:00:54 AM
Actually, I haven't noticed that People appreciate things more when there is a price tag on it.  I have noticed that People appreciate things more when given from the heart.  Kids get expensive stuff all the time and trash it.  Or, if it's not what They really wanted badly, become unhappy.  But when it is given with thought for exactly what would please Them, THEN they appreciate it - regardless of the price tag.  Something as simple as a pinecone picked up off the ground and given to anOther who adores pinecones will be far more appreciated than giving Them a car They don't need.

And when money is gone, and when cars can be had for the asking...only gifts from the heart will be given.

Here is a for instance:

What if I gave you the answer to construct a Gravitor that would give you an efficiency of well over 100%  (based upon displacement/weight x 100%) that could not only lift itself vertically but also the power supply to operate it along with a payload. There is one drawback, it was given for you and only you to use. However, you discover that you haven't the money to build it.

Now the real question: What would you do with that knowledge?

Mikado

Amaterasu

Gee, Mikado.  You have given Me nothing.  If I cannot build it and cannot let Others in on it...  I would have to file it away and hope someday I could use it.

Not sure where You're going with this.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Mikado

I gave you the answer to how to do it. Is that nothing?

Wouldn't that be a pine cone to you?



Mikado

Amaterasu

Quote from: Mikado on July 01, 2012, 04:38:59 AM
I gave you the answer to how to do it. Is that nothing?

Wouldn't that be a pine cone to you?



Mikado

In that hypothetical situation, I suppose...  But that is kinda like giving a recipe for a favorite dish to a starving bum...  "I won't give You the ingredients useful to You - and You mustn't ask anyOne for the ingredients, but here's how You make that dish You so crave..."

Actually, it would be less of a pinecone and more of a written description of a pinecone in stark and dispassionate terms.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Mikado

Okay, how about this approach.

You said "
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 01, 2012, 04:33:34 AM
Gee, Mikado.  You have given Me nothing. 

But I did give you something. Something that cost me greatly, is there no value to that?

Continuing:

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 01, 2012, 04:33:34 AM
If I cannot build it and cannot let Others in on it...  I would have to file it away and hope someday I could use it.


But yet what I see going on in particular this forum and others, is the repeated question - "how does it work?" - "What did you build?"

So if someone asks those questions than are they really not asking for themselves personally or is there some other ulterior motive?

Are you seeing my point yet?

Mikado

zorgon

Quote from: Mikado on July 01, 2012, 02:18:08 AM
I love this guy!

to deal with powerful alternating magnetic fields seems too doubtful: it can destroy vehicle in no time thanks to emf tsunami.


It needs to be ...eloquent.

Mikado

Well he is Russian  English not his first language ;)

So I guess we pack up then cause the silly foil lifters won't help much and too much power will destroy :D

yeah yeah I know there are other options :P

zorgon

Quote from: zorgon on July 01, 2012, 05:10:55 AM
Well he is Russian  English not his first language ;)

So I guess we pack up then cause the silly foil lifters won't help much and too much power will destroy :D

yeah yeah I know there are other options :P

I think I will just put a team together and jump some Aliens, give em a good probing, and steal their ride.. seems a lot more practical


Mikado

Well, as I see it, ideas are a bit like a certain orifice - everybody has one.

But then there are those ... nah... not going to go there...<g>

I do believe that a lifter could be readily adapted to a boat...or a sub but not necessarily to an airplane.

I could be wrong but they are in use.

http://iopscience.iop.org/1742-6596/34/1/116/pdf/jpconf6_34_116.pdf

Mikado