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Started by zorgon, June 24, 2012, 10:11:59 PM

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deuem

What do you think would happen if we pulsed the wires like the A51 craft Bob Lazar talks about.
If i remember right he talked about 20 cycles per second.
A51 and i are working on this idea. The pulse. It has to be there for a reason. Maybe like you said, so not to melt anything.
Would a pulsed wire take more current than a On one would? I am still thinking DC. Making Ac in the air on remote control is another problem.

Guys, so you know, If I cant get off the teather I am not intersted. Thousands of people have had teather flights.

We need the next step.  Deuem

robomont

if voltage is too high on any apparatus, for it to perform,it has to be pulsed dc.sometimes because of high current/amps the wires will melt.
ac is already pulsed but going positive then negative.i believe ac would lock it a certain space,neither going up or down.
no offence but i think yall are overthinking it a little.just add my suggestion,keep your current low enough to not melt on both apparatus and bet the hummer will fly.
i dont know the magnetic field strength tho.we need a guy that is familiar with moving plasma in a magnetic field.
are more field lines created with higher voltage?are the field lines thicker with amp increase?does more windings increase diameter of field?what does it take to increase acceleration of ions?
im 99% sure the solenoid will be the trick though.ive been a hv tech for a year,an air conditioning tech five years,a microwave tech parttime for twenty years as a towerhand.
ive been studying in my spare time these theories for twenty five years.ive got copies here at home on paper ,alot of townsends patents.
now im glad to see somebody trying it out.just so you know,i came up with this added idea after figureing out the sybolism of the caduceus coil pic.
that just happened in the last year or so.

then when seeing you building this lifter,i came up with the solenoid idea.
us just being in the right place at the right time.
this may be the breakthrough we have all been looking for.
now get the team across the finish line.
and dont kill yourself.
our hopes and dreams are in your hands.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

zorgon

Quote from: deuem on August 30, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
Guys, so you know, If I cant get off the teather I am not intersted. Thousands of people have had tether flights.
We need the next step.  Deuem

I agree :D  And when your there I have a sketch of a star drive I will put on the table :D

robomont

once we get an idea of power requirements,the tether can come off.
the current can be measured at the 110vac source using a clamp on meter.v x a =watts.
then scale up.add internal powersupply.
move to third world country,procure uranium,take over world.
joking of course.
i believe kenetic energy and gravity will be the way for planet hopping.
but for star hopping ,w need a bigger craft.my guess ,size of aircraft carrier.
next project? battlestar pegasus? im in.

the energy source for tether free is propane.also some compressed oxygen ballast for high altitude.this would run a generator.
for outer space,a hydrogen bladder in the shape of an innertube would be added.for neutral buoancy.less stress on the lifter,less fuel cost to get to the battlestar.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

zorgon

Quote from: robomont on August 30, 2012, 08:54:42 PM
move to third world country,procure uranium,take over world.

i have some nice radioactive Betafites that you could distill :D  Better to make a battery that absorbs that radiation directly (like the one Paul Brown invented that he got snuffed for) Have to ask yourself WHY the Russians are buying all our Nuke waste in Europe

:o ::)

Quotei believe kenetic energy and gravity will be the way for planet hopping.
but for star hopping ,w need a bigger craft.my guess ,size of aircraft carrier.
next project? battlestar pegasus? im in.


Battlestar Pegasus

Quotethe energy source for tether free is propane.also some compressed oxygen ballast for high altitude.this would run a generator.

Have you calculated your weight to lift ratio yet?

Quotefor outer space,a hydrogen bladder in the shape of an innertube would be added.for neutral buoancy.less stress on the lifter,less fuel cost to get to the battlestar.

Ah an airship  great idea  wouldn't need the lifter them just ride the balloon up :D



robomont

a balloon full of air wont float in air.a ballast full of hydrogen wont make it to outer space.thats where the lifter kicks in.
now what if we ionized the hydrogen in the bladder it may make it to outerspace.what if the bladder was rigid? then hydrogen could be pulled from space and compressed into liquid form.creating added mass ,then used as a thruster jet or as added weight to pull one towards earth.that way lifter is only used for exceptions like emergencies.thus saving energy.i think space travel will have alot to do with conservation of energy.
deep space shows no mercy.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

deuem

Right now there is time for brainsorming ideas, We got pushed back again on the PS.

keep thinking....I did just get in some of the control circuits.

Deuem

robomont

what kind of ps are yall getting?
what are its specs?
input?output? who makes it ? cost?
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

Littleenki

Heres a great one you can build with an old tv or two...
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lwhvps.htm

Cheers!
Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

deuem

Quote from: robomont on August 31, 2012, 09:32:48 AM
what kind of ps are yall getting?
what are its specs?
input?output? who makes it ? cost?

I am sorry but I don't really know, the electronics guru is taking care of that.
Maybe 0 to 50,000 volts and the amps 0 to 1
It should look like a rack mount PS for labs and be able to tweak it.
That is all I know for now. They are still working on specs, hence the delay(s)
Deuem

Littleenki

Hey, Dueum, just for sh!ts and grins, you know a rack mount HVPS, for a good one, will run you in the hundreds if not thousands of USD, right? That lightweight HVPS diagram I sent is the best way to go...twenty or thirty bucks at the most, and its quite rugged, too if the components you use are either new or in good shape.

Jes a thought...

le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

robomont

yea i did a google for hv ps and they looked like rack units but had no prices.
remember eg&g.i did a search of them and most of the company branches had something to do with hv.lmao when i saw that.now they so desperate for work,they asking for it.must have got our fleet built and stored in the mountains for d day.probly just doing maintenance now.
one of the people they were hiring was tv technicians.
notice how my idea looks kinda like a tv tube turned inside out? hmm.
if the craft was tuned just right,it may become almost invisible.somehow bending light around it or portraying a set color like sky blue.
also they arent completely invisible,just from the bottom mainly.
that clue came from the chicago ohare ufo incident.when the control tower couldnt see it overhead but the baggage handlers a mile away could.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

deuem

I have no idea on what they are going to get as far a money goes. Alls he said is that it looks something like a rack mount would. So did my old VCR player when they first came out. they want to be able to do very fine testing on both the ampeerage and voltage. I will leave it up to them. They run an electronics factory so I guess they must know what to get. I heard they have some of these now but not in the ranges we need. So after testing it will be added to the lab equipment. This would be a cheaper unit to add for them compared to the rest of the lab. Many electric labs cost several million dollars in equipment. I don't think they will notice it.

The fleet is built and waiting. This sounds about right. Don't know how large it is but sound right. If the delay goes on forever or put down I will take a look at LE idea. Maybe I can get them here for even less. But as I told Z in another post, shipping anything has a $125 minimum now for US paper work issues. Only letters can go cheap but with email, who needs a letter now a days.

Deuem


Littleenki

Dueum, even if they have a rack mount hv ps that puts out 300-500vdc, they can use a cheap voltage multiplier from an old tv to step it up...shouldnt be long now til youre making arcs my friend!

The fleet is done? Zorgon gets his sport model, but Id like a rugged one to bounce off other craft with, ya know jes for fun!LOL!

Like an antigravity ATV?

:D
Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

#284
Indeed :D

I read in Cramp's book that because each craft has it's own field, they would simply bounce off each other.
It would be actually impossible for them to crash, and they would automatically form triangles when flying in formation.
Sound familiar?

HV circuits, plenty abound, the TV flyback is still one of the best, but those transformers are becoming like gold dust, with all the new TV's being flat screens & all. :(

When i eventuallly find them, i will post some excellent DIY Tesla coil plans 8)

'standby for complete room ionisation' LOL