MK-ULTRA & COINTELPRO - Sinister Mind Control and New Age Spirituality

[zorgon]

"JD" was the name Linda gave to Her lover who was in the intelligence field.

It was? Where did you get that from?

[Pimander]

"JD" was the name Linda gave to Her lover who was in the intelligence field.

Yes, I had to look at Loftons book again to check. Linda trying to keep things simple as usual.  LOL

High School Lover = Morgan = JD = not a real name =

Morgan = Captain Morgan's = Rum
JD = Jack Daniel's = Bourbon

[Amaterasu]

It was? Where did you get that from?

Her book.

[Captain Dave]

So, the human mind emit's (and receives) Alpha, Beta, Delta, Theta and Gama waves... It seems like we're all broadcasters and receivers. How would one then block others psychic abilities or wave lengths?

I once had "waves" broadcast at high intensity directly at me. I grabbed a small sattelite dish I had sitting nearby and placed it inbetween me and the "broadcast". It did reflect the broadcast, however the broadcast was of a mechanical nature.

So my question would then be what are the characteristics of broadcast wave lengths from the human mind? Can they be blocked using a specific material and or shape?

There have been times in my life where I've had perfect silence in my mind and I really enjoyed it. There have been other times where it seems as though my mind was grand central station.

The aluminum hat joke comes to mind... ( Though unfortunately it doesn't work lol )

I would assume there are certain mental tricks to shut down any connection between two points, however I am more curious to know what physical materials or shapes would do so.

I'd love to create a room completely protected from any frequency or broadcast. Just to walk in and then out of that room to feel the difference would be interesting. 

The development of some type of headgear that has the ability to both block and amplify natural signals would really change the cell phone industry (and human kind).

[Littleenki]

Like a faraday cage with a recliner and some plants...

And may I say personally from me..its great to see you back Capt Dave!

(if thats your real name!) LOL!

Cheers!

Le

[Captain Dave]

Like a faraday cage with a recliner and some plants...

And may I say personally from me..its great to see you back Capt Dave!

(if thats your real name!) LOL!

Cheers!

Le

Thank You! I really did miss this place and all the Amazing people. Ordinarily I wouldn't want to be part of any place that would have me as a member, but PRC is far too interesting to stay away. ( Now I know how a moth feels when it see's the light.    )

I'm wondering if some type of Honey Comb design made up of miniature parabolic dishes would work?

[Pimander]

So, the human mind emit's (and receives) Alpha, Beta, Delta, Theta and Gama waves... It seems like we're all broadcasters and receivers. How would one then block others psychic abilities or wave lengths?

Welcome back mate and thanks for posting on one of my favourite topics.

ELF waves are significant in one regard here.  I'll leave that for now but they are not easy to block.

I look at it this way.  Although alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and Theta are what we detect in the brain of subjects whose consciousness is in various altered states, it may be that the transmission is different frequencies and the brain or "subtle body" actually transduces the signal.

Have you seen the recent experiments by the guy who did the God Helmet.  In some he put two subjects both in the same field EM with interesting results...  I'll go find the info if anyone is interested.....

I love this stuff... It baffles me that anyone might find this stuff uninteresting.

[Pimander]

I'm wondering if some type of Honey Comb design made up of miniature parabolic dishes would work?

This depends on the materials that the dishes were made of and the frequency of the transmission would be.

Also, are all mind transmissions made via EM?  It could even be via another route, such as the "A-fields" postulated by Ervin Laszlo (basically Akashic field) which operate outside of normal space time.  This would explain why RV can be done at massive distances and potentially into the past.  Resonance in the A field would also explain why it is more likely that you can influence a subject you have a bond with or have hypnotised but I digress...... 

[Captain Dave]

Welcome back mate and thanks for posting on one of my favourite topics.

ELF waves are significant in one regard here.  I'll leave that for now but they are not easy to block.

I look at it this way.  Although alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and Theta are what we detect in the brain of subjects whose consciousness is in various altered states, it may be that the transmission is different frequencies and the brain or "subtle body" actually transduces the signal.

Have you seen the recent experiments by the guy who did the God Helmet.  In some he put two subjects both in the same field EM with interesting results...  I'll go find the info if anyone is interested.....

I love this stuff... It baffles me that anyone might find this stuff uninteresting.

Thanks!

I was thinking along similar lines - in that the body and mind are both sending/ receiving. It also seems that there are far more "frequencies" involved (some possibly unidentified - at least to the general public).

The mind seems to emit quite a few frequencies while the body can emit something quite different. There seem to be many different forms of energy transference, each being a different "language" of sorts.

[sky otter]

yeah verry inttttereesting

posing a question here that i have thought of for a long time ( and come to my own conclusion)

if we are bombared with all this input..some intentional and directed...some just there

do you think or believe or know if  there is a way we can

recogninze and stop them with our own "power / mind / consciousness"..?

just kinda curious




i'm not talking of devices or other constructs that need to be built

[Captain Dave]

This depends on the materials that the dishes were made of and the frequency of the transmission would be.

Also, are all mind transmissions made via EM?  It could even be via another route, such as the "A-fields" postulated by Ervin Laszlo (basically Akashic field) which operate outside of normal space time.  This would explain why RV can be done at massive distances and potentially into the past.  Resonance in the A field would also explain why it is more likely that you can influence a subject you have a bond with or have hypnotised but I digress...... 

Omg Yes! There are so MANY "dimensions" to all of this. Past, Present, Future, Distance, Visualization, Amplification, both Silent and Audible. I  think there are commonalities though which can lead ultimately to a way in which to eliminate or better control the signals. I believe also that geometric shape, thickness and material play a large role. Computer control would add so many other refined functions.

Oh to have a lab and all the toys...

[Captain Dave]

yeah verry inttttereesting

posing a question here that i have thought of for a long time ( and come to my own conclusion)

if we are bombared with all this input..some intentional and directed...some just there

do you think or believe or know if  there is a way we can

recogninze and stop them with our own "power / mind / consciousness"..?

just kinda curious




i'm not talking of devices or other constructs that need to be built

There is almost never only one answer to any question or problem. I would speculate that there are millions of ways to skin a cat (though some would be better than others) .

A well trained mind can draw a perfect circle on paper, while the use of a compass makes it easier for the untrained mind. I suppose there is value in both.

What mental triggers could be used to shut down a link? I suppose the amount of belief in those triggers would also be a factor?

I have felt my mind in a relaxed state where it seems more susceptible to attack or influence. I have also felt my mind flex to a point where it seems quite amplified. Focus or Distraction seems to make quite a difference.

One thing I have found interesting is that I can always tell the difference between my own thoughts and those of others, no matter what form.

[Littleenki]

Observe the human body and mind as antennas. Always receiving, and of course through our heart centered Em field, always transmitting.

As for ELF well, we all know who creates the most ELF besides our own bodies..HAARP.

So, as this HAARP and its underlings, the mind controlling government programs operate, we receive and suffer.

Instead of finding a way to block all frequencies, which could be catastrophic to the total mind/body experience, shall we look for a way to block just the ELF?

What do you think Pimander about that?

Im not a big wiki fan but lets start here.... and define our enemy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_low_frequency

BTW..foil hats dont work unless they are grounded and isolated from the person's body electrically.

Le

[Pimander]

Oh to have a lab and all the toys...

I am working on this part....

I may have to relocate to the USA ultimately unless my tiny business interest in the UK is a big success.  Where I am I have access to cellular and molecular technologies but not even neurology apparatus like EEG!  It is pissing me right off and holding me back, as you can imagine.

I think where you touch on shape/form you are onto something very important.

In terms of psychic self defence, don't ignore the esoteric lore on the topic, Sky.  there is modern science but it can also learn from the adepts from the past IMO.

[Pimander]

BTW..foil hats dont work unless they are grounded and isolated from the person's body electrically.

They don't work at all with most frequencies and can also act as an antenna.

If you want to experience as close to total shielding then deep underground is a start.  However, it is disorientating to be cut off from the rhythms.  If I go into the metro or mines in Derbyshire, England I hardly know where I am when I come out.  My sense of direction completely goes for a start.