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Decriminalisation of Drugs and Cannabis

Started by ArMaP, July 04, 2012, 01:59:52 AM

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zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 08, 2012, 06:22:30 AM
Considering that Carl Sagan was a regular user...  I'm pretty sure We can add "astrophysicist" to the list...

That explains much  :o

Carl Sagan wanted to Nuke the Moon to see if there was anything organic up there  :o

"Hey look Carl... there was life....   errrr.... oops!"

My bad... just had to :D

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on July 11, 2012, 08:20:07 AM
That explains much  :o

Carl Sagan wanted to Nuke the Moon to see if there was anything organic up there  :o

"Hey look Carl... there was life....   errrr.... oops!"

My bad... just had to :D

LOLOL!  Thanks for that!
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Vandalis

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 11, 2012, 05:50:17 AM
I am going to say that as far as I know...no One has gone "phycotic" on marijuana.  The very small percentage, that has any severe reaction at all, usually wind up feeling ill.  Or "paranoid" - but then, how much of that is from its illegal status?

There was a tv documentery about it not long back her ein the uk. Following a few poeple that took it and if it should be legalised. One guy started goin crazy, hearing things etc. While these kids just went out to teh woods for a few and had fun. Showed how some have no problems with it. While others can get addicted or have mental problems. Those things arnt caused by the drug. They start with the person.   But as in all tv shows they never gave a clear answer one way or the other. But it did lean towards the "keep it banned" side.

Ill see if i can find it somewhere.
"We have the ALIEN SPACECRAFT under observence" - NASA

"There certainly are a lot of big boulders...whoop! - WINK!" - Jack Schmitt


Pimander

Uses of high quantities of Cannabis for a prolonged period DO CAUSE A FORM OF PSYCHOSIS.

Lower doses taken occasionally, like most drugs, are relatively harmless.  The same can be said for the odd glass of Scotch for instance. :)

Amaterasu

Quote from: Vandalis on July 11, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
There was a tv documentery about it not long back her ein the uk. Following a few poeple that took it and if it should be legalised. One guy started goin crazy, hearing things etc. While these kids just went out to teh woods for a few and had fun. Showed how some have no problems with it. While others can get addicted or have mental problems. Those things arnt caused by the drug. They start with the person.   But as in all tv shows they never gave a clear answer one way or the other. But it did lean towards the "keep it banned" side.

Ill see if i can find it somewhere.

There is no such thing as "addicted..."  Many People come to rely on it for treatment of stress.  TPTB like to CALL that "addiction" but that is BS.  And perhaps .1% of People have any serious issues.  Maybe the whole thing was staged.  That could be a possibility...


Quote from: Pimander on July 11, 2012, 05:04:00 PM
Uses of high quantities of Cannabis for a prolonged period DO CAUSE A FORM OF PSYCHOSIS.

Lower doses taken occasionally, like most drugs, are relatively harmless.  The same can be said for the odd glass of Scotch for instance. :)

Where do You get these data from...?

"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Pimander

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 11, 2012, 05:43:45 PM
There is no such thing as "addicted..."  Many People come to rely on it for treatment of stress.  TPTB like to CALL that "addiction" but that is BS.  And perhaps .1% of People have any serious issues.  Maybe the whole thing was staged.  That could be a possibility...


Where do You get these data from...?
From the scientific literature.  I am a pharmacology graduate.  where do you get yours. ::)

Linda Brown

"There is no such thing as "addicted..."

Surely you jest.

Linda

Littleenki

Quote from: Linda Brown on July 11, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
"There is no such thing as "addicted..."

Surely you jest.

Linda
Becoming an addict can be an overnight process for some, and others it takes a while longer. It depends on the amount of drug ingested on a regular basis, more and youre hooked quicker, and infrequent, and all it takes is a binge or consecutive days intoxicated, but when dealing with any drug or alchohol abuse, there is a definite reality to addiction, and a timeline to become addicted.

A fine line it is, and some can abuse drugs with abandon one day and have no craving the next.

Its really as Amy says a control thing though, as the govt likes to keep its sheeple well in control, and drugs are a perfect medium for such activity.

Especially legal ones like the big pharma crap!

Just ask the CIA, who deals the most drugs anywhere....

Yep!

Le
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Ellirium113

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 11, 2012, 05:43:45 PM
There is no such thing as "addicted..."  Many People come to rely on it for treatment of stress.  TPTB like to CALL that "addiction" but that is BS.  And perhaps .1% of People have any serious issues.  Maybe the whole thing was staged.  That could be a possibility...


Where do You get these data from...?

Ever see a chronic pot smoker go without for a few days? You would know the addiction is real or there would be no withdrawl symptoms. The same can be said for a lot of things...even coffee drinkers, whether you think it is all in your head or not so long as it is craved and you suffer some form of anxiety without it, your addicted.

QuoteI'm glad you kicked your habit, though. It's hard to let go of what seems to be such a good thing, but the jury is still out on the long term effects.

rose


??? Where did I say I had a habit?  :P

Linda Brown

Speaking of how the CIA funds some of its black projects.... Linda

Littleenki

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 11, 2012, 10:11:53 PM
Ever see a chronic pot smoker go without for a few days? You would know the addiction is real or there would be no withdrawl symptoms. The same can be said for a lot of things...even coffee drinkers, whether you think it is all in your head or not so long as it is craved and you suffer some form of anxiety without it, your addicted.

??? Where did I say I had a habit?  :P

As an employer, I always knew when my employees were out of pot!LOL! Lots of cellphone activity, and zero attention span..obvious!

As a pot smoker for years myself, I can attest it is true.

Coffee, the new crack!..or the old crack, its been around a lot longer.

And a friend who went to South America got hooked on chewing coca leaves, BAD!

All in the genetics and the surroundings, as a rich person who has the money doesnt exhibit the withdrawal symptoms like someone who runs out every day and craves.

All in the environment at the start, and then its downhill from there. Noone ever improves from drug and alchohol abuse, and trust me I didnt.

All better now though, and wow, what a feeling!

And that K-2 spice? Its not anywhere near being a replacement, the kids who do it here, act as if they had a peyote sandwich!Good grief!

Le
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Fruitbat

Quote from: zorgon on July 06, 2012, 10:40:36 AM
One Reason NOT to take Pot



Thank you Zorgon, that is one of the funniest things I have heard this year...

Ellirium113

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Quote from: Littleenki on July 11, 2012, 10:21:48 PM
As an employer, I always knew when my employees were out of pot!LOL! Lots of cellphone activity, and zero attention span..obvious!

As a pot smoker for years myself, I can attest it is true.

Coffee, the new crack!..or the old crack, its been around a lot longer.

And a friend who went to South America got hooked on chewing coca leaves, BAD!

:) I would rather deal with a person withdrawing from pot than cigarettes...man some people get right nasty.

Quote
All in the genetics and the surroundings, as a rich person who has the money doesnt exhibit the withdrawal symptoms like someone who runs out every day and craves.

The severity of the withdrawl is proportional to the availibility of funds & product (as well as a emotional distress level of the individual).  :P


rose

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 11, 2012, 10:11:53 PM

??? Where did I say I had a habit?  :P

Sorry,  E.  Sometimes I post faster than my brain works. I went back to look at your story and grabbed Val's tale of his love of ecstasy instead.

rose

Littleenki

Quote
  I would rather deal with a person withdrawing from pot than cigarettes...man some people get right nasty.

Indeed, Ellirium, for sure!

Le

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