Searl, Discussions

[dcooper]

PWM or anyone, does the searl effect has EG in it. In Paul LaV. Book Secrets of Anti-gravity Propulsion, He Believes that EG is also part of how it works. -dcooper

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Err, Yes.

[zorgon]

All I want to know is where did he park this one?

[sky otter]

 

that looks like a tramoline blow in the wind....

[zorgon]

[1Worldwatcher]

AS far as SEG is concerned, I have read here is is a "Tapping" of sort's. Personally I believe it too be a "Manipulation of ambient gravitational fields" not so much the latter.
Have discussed Searl many times and is quite an amazing man for his research and findings.
"Say Z, didn't you have an article about when Searl had tested one of his devices and it was not tethered or something and it became an orbital situation?" Can't for the life of me find that entry for this incident, but when I think of the SEG, it is the first thing that comes too mind.
If this is not or wasn't you Z, I apologize a head of time, but remember this event distinct-fully happening with notes too back it up.

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[zorgon]

When Searl first activated his device, the rollers (rotors) began to rotate around the plate (stator), generating a charge-pumping action on an open circuit configuration. At threshold speed, the device maintained its rotation with no additional energy input from the peripheral electromagnets. In the case of the original prototype, however, Searl had not provided a dampening mechanism, which caused a positive energy feedback loop to occur (circuit virtually closed) as the machine charged or ionized the air surrounding it, causing the device to accelerate. Eventually the generator experienced a severe drop in temperature inversely proportional to the increasing electric current as the electrical resistance decreased into lines predicted by the Pinch (plasma physics) effect. The random kinetic energy of the electrons became uniform in motion (physics), directly resulting in very high electron velocity, and thus the SEG quickly achieved superconductivity at extremely low temperatures. In this state, quantum tunneling electrons surged through the generator in the form of unimpeded Cooper pairs, resulting in very high negative potentials at the device's periphery.

Through a process similar to ionization, a pink halo formed about the machine and intense electric fields repelled the surrounding negatively charged air strongly enough to form a vacuum. This vacuum and the geometry of the SEG prevented flashover of the millions of volts generated. The energy levels escalated enormously as the SEG effectively absorbed or converted the ambient temperature and all other environmental sources of the electromagnetic spectrum immediately surrounding the machine into useful electrical power. The process is believed to strip the electron's kinetic energy by rectifying its normally random motional state in to a uniform state, accelerating it back into the environment, where the electrons regain normal levels of kinetic energy. The SEG's electric fields would then re-attract the surrounding electrons through the relativity positive center of the generator creating a continuous cycle, a process that Prof. Searl has described as an "electron ramjet".

Upon reaching a threshold level of efficiency, the generator's weight dramatically decreased to a negative state at very cold temperatures. The SEG's mass inertia concurrently also inverted its state which effectively created what may be termed as an anti-gravity machine with superconductivity due to the extreme electrical and spin-orbital rotating magnetic fields. Then most unexpectedly, the SEG promptly shot through the roof of Searl's lodge and was never seen again.

Several more units were made and lost outdoors until he incorporated a dielectric layer to its construction and the practical power generator (SEG) was thus realized.

[1Worldwatcher]

Yes, thats the story Z, thanks for getting it posted, talk about a story to render the imagination rather perplexed!! LOL Great stuff for sure.

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[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Well, you guys have been busy

Thanks for posting the info on The Machine, Z

But...I have been studying this for 12 years now. I even have Searls e-mail & have spoken to him & Terry Moore a few times. They are very dedicated in their work, but there is also a lot of controversy surrounding them.

I won't say yes or no, but i still need to see a working SEG with all three rings and one that is obviously generating excess power.

The 'one ring' model used in the videos is nothing more than an induction motor, unless i can prove otherwise.

The same goes for the STEORN motor.....

[1Worldwatcher]

But...I have been studying this for 12 years now. I even have Searls e-mail & have spoken to him & Terry Moore a few times. They are very dedicated in their work, but there is also a lot of controversy surrounding them.

If you are in communication PWM, you should enlightened information then? Come on, we can handle it..lol
Seriously though, would love too hear how you got his Email and if you have conversed over such matters as we have discussed endlessly here. :0

I won't say yes or no, but i still need to see a working SEG with all three rings and one that is obviously generating excess power.

So, you are saying everything I have read on Searl is fraudulent or just theoretical, no machine, no test drive, just hype? I  hope not, have been reading materials on him ever since Z had introduced me to his works.

The 'one ring' model used in the videos is nothing more than an induction motor, unless i can prove otherwise.
The same goes for the STEORN motor.....

Though I do wish we had the video of the first prototype crashing through the ceiling of his research area, I am still leaning that the sciences aren't being shared as diligently as one may hope.
I can only imagine what was going through the on lookers minds when this had taken place, but now I am left too question PWM...lol...Thanks a lot.

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[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I didn't want to put anyone off, Searl has a lot of technical/engineering know-how, but he is also highly eccentric
'Dr' Terry moore is actually a doctor of medicine (homeopath) but is seen standing by a lathe where they were turning the composite rollers.

The problem is, this tech is almost impossible to replicate (unless you go for the Godin/Roschin type setup).
The theory of the squares is complex, and at first glance appears to work, but again we are working with something that has no precedent.
The similarity to this with O.T.Carr & other types is in the rotating magnet system, which we will be doing some experiments on soon, once i have a few of the current projects finished up.

I have posted plenty of links to his work, and his 500-page 'inventions' dossier is well worth reading, but you will have to dig through page after page of irrelevant nonsense before you find one page that is useful.

I can't read the mails from then (10 years ago) because they are on a dead PC that will have to be ressurected soon in order to read that drive...

The youtube discussions went on for years & i was forced to concede that 1; the model being shown was getting more than 2 volts input, that 2; the coils on the outside were clearly firing in sequence to keep the rollers turning and not (as searl states) to keep them from flying off.

However, it is such a novel machine, if proven to work it will solve virtually all our problems. It is said to have positive healing effects, as well as the free energy, and the IGV flying version (which is said to have optical effects like a 'shiny mirror' surface, when at high energy/speed).
They can be made as small as a wristwatch or as big as a  house, depending on the power needed, they will never stop, unless damaged or the rollers need re-magnetising....

That's if it works.
What we need is to dig deeper into the fundamentals, materials etc and find out if it works, or not.

[Littleenki]

The he!! With a bigger boat, I think we need a bigger bank account!  LOL!

I just dont see searls generator as a valid place to invest any time myself, as the science is being obscured by his eccentricity and unwillingness to share ALL the details.
What gets my goat is these so called inventors puting stuff out there as if its already solved and operating, when in my opinion, many of them are fishing for ideas from us to finish their work and take the credit when it does work.

Open source or nothing is the key...too many dollars, and yes, lives have been expended in this field for any more what ifs or how do's.

As far as a searl gen, the expense would be great just to get to the place in the video, and even then we have no idea what really is gojng on there.

I totally agree with you Luke, that a G/R style of coil is key, but for other reasons...my view is that a rising and lowering type of device could effectively create a side effect which may be beter than a rotating type effort..just a thought...a bouncing coil array which may effect a sort of vtol force. Like a pogo stick? A start at least, as the repulsion of two fields can be pretty springy.:-)

Cheers,
Dave

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Exactly, Dave

Open source or nothing is the key...too many dollars, and yes, lives have been expended in this field for any more what ifs or how do's.

By all means people are free to examine & speculate on this, but i didn't want the inventors group wasting too much time on something we can't build, or prove.

Gravitor research on the other hand, is fairly easy to do & (with a little investment) can be proven to work.
The whole rotation thing is important for me because it is the key to inertia control.

First up, some plasma control experiments.
(forgot the blasted grapes again, didn't i?)

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Dave, regarding your 2 field 'pogo stick' theory...

A long time ago, i had this thought:

Does a magnetic field (artificial) remain in space for a measurable amount of time, after the current has ceased to flow.

Does said magnetic field exist long enough to push against

If so, we need only to produce magnetic fields that rapidly change, and push against them.

Literally 'pushing against the aether' as it were.....
This is one of my childhood ideas, god help us what i will think of tomorrow...

[1Worldwatcher]

I personally think that Searl had got one of those "Ah-ha!!" moments and really didn't count on the research producing what it had. I was introduced too the SEG by Z and Matyas (AKA-Janitor) back in 2005. Before then, never heard of Searl, but have been deducing that these extended events of prototype's testing have something to them, especially the story that Z had posted about the device climbing to heights and out of this world, which is exactly where we want to be as far 'Craft' capabilities are concerned.
One thing I must add here though to PWM advisement of the whole Magnetic bearing apparatus is "I don't think it is a flat plane surface that the magnets travel/orbit with in or on, I think they are laying/orbiting on a bearing race, dynamically designed to do a few things at the same time." Similar too what we see on vehicles and the wheel bearing's that keep the friction down due too a camber to the interior and over laying exterior cuts of such thing as a race.
Though these 'Races' would be of an exotic type of material, I do still think it is in the best interest to follow old sciences when it comes to Mechanical or moving parts. Give me a second here, I am going to find an example for you guy's too better understand why I feel this way.."Lets all go too the Lobby, lets all go too the Lobby, Let's all go too the Lobby too get ourselves some treats!!" LOL (Glad you can't hear me singing that too you...Ha ha ha!!)



As you can see there is a slight angle of the race causing less frictional consistencies while temps are a major problem with high speed speeding of such thing's, makes absolute sense to achieve most optimal angular placements of such things. Even in a device such as SEG, it has too be a major player as too it's efficiency and over all operation and desired outcome.
I do not how much of auto mechanics is known between us here, but I for one have been doing my own vehicle work since I could see over the fender!! "Combustion engine questions" you betcha, SEG operating systems? Not so much.... LOL

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