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Aurora Theater Shooting

Started by Shasta56, July 20, 2012, 03:10:03 PM

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Shasta56

A six year year old girl died in the shooting.  Her pregnant mother lost the baby.  The baby was due in about two months, so the viability threshold had been passed.  The mother is not expected to survive.  My daughter works in pharmacy at one of the hospitals that got some of the victims and my son-in-law works there in security.  The hospital remains on lockdown.  The shooter's apartment is about three miles from where I live.

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

burntheships

#16
Alex Jones on The Dark Knight, this from a few weeks ago.
Right on Target.




Tragic. My prayers for all those who have been harmed.
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

petrus4

Quote from: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 02:15:54 AM
Ah yes mind control...  buy a John Lear official tin foil hat and stop watching murder movies :P

Can you tell me what you think the cause of this was, zorgon?  Maybe it wasn't mind control; but I honestly don't believe that something like this happens in a vacuum.

I've been consistently accused of being unscientific, in other places; but I thought that one element of scientific thinking, was that for every effect, there is a given cause.  Maybe the idea of MK-Ultra mind control is implausible; but I really do not understand how the idea that this was, "just a random nut," is actually any more plausible than that.  The mind control idea might be far fetched, but at least it's an explanation that could actually go somewhere.  "Just some random nut," doesn't tell us anything at all.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

petrus4

#18
From here:-

QuoteReports said the attacker had a ticket but left the cinema, pretending to receive a phone call, before returning fully armed.

He wore a bullet-proof vest, tactical body armour and gloves, and was carrying an AR-15 military-style, semi-automatic rifle, a shotgun and two pistols, police said.

He threw two tear gas grenades, then opened fire with a rifle. There was chaos as movie-goers fled, some dressed in costume as heroes and villains.

(Emphasis mine)

I'm sorry, but in my own mind, this was a government plant.  Read the description in the same article, of all the crap that was found in his apartment.  Then look at the photogenic mug shot, with the stereotypical psychopathic smile; reminded me of Jared Lee Loughner.  Once again, they also knew within an hour, who was responsible for the whole thing.  Amazing how fast the system can work when it needs to, eh? ;)

The whole thing is a complete joke, as far as any semblance of credibility is concerned.  We have transparent, incredibly sloppy government operations, that are apparently only designed at this point to fool a population who are sufficiently dumbed down, and dosed up on SSRIs that they can't see through them, or are neurochemically incapable of caring.  Obama literally told people in his speech, not to question what had happened; "such evil is senseless."

I guess if it's so "senseless," we can dispense with the usual formalities, like motive.  We can cease trying to figure out what someone could possibly hope to accomplish by filling their apartment with explosives.  Because this guy was just some random nutcase, who went off for absolutely no discernible reason.  Nothing more to see here; move along.  People just snap.  Happens all the time, right?

Apart from anything else, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that when these disasters happen, the most effective means we have of honouring the victims, is simply to take the government's word for what happened.  The most important thing to do, in light of this tragedy, is to make sure that more gun control legislation gets passed as quickly as possible; because if we live in a society where potentially anyone can be a violent psychopath, a crucial thing to ensure, is that it's only the psychopaths within the police or military who are armed.

Yeah, that'll make everyone much safer.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Amaterasu

I agree.  This was orchestrated.  Where did all this weaponry and accoutrement come from?  Surely the student could not afford to run out and buy all this equipment (and know who to buy it from!).  Another "false flag" to get Us to believe giving up Our weapons is "for Our own safety."

May Benny Franklin's words ring loud now!
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

petrus4

Natural News: Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged

Looks like I'm not the only one who's having problems with the official story.  Mike Adams can be a bit extreme, but I think he's pretty much on the money in this case.

"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Amaterasu

Nope.  You're surely not.

I hope the points made in that article reach the general populace.  We need this info on a large scale so as to shame Our "leaders" into forgoing the signing of that "treaty."

I though "mind control" long before all these details came out.  It just felt like it.  Spidy sense and all.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

deuem

When this is all said and done, you will need a permit to carry your gun out of the house. It will have travel plans for the day and no ammo will be allowed with it. They do this with planes now. That is the next step. They can't take them away so they will regulate the movement. Anyone caught with a loaded gun or a gun and ammo will be taken down town. One with out the other they can control. No where does it say they can't do that! After that, they will make you wear a bright red or orange jacket if you are with gun or ammo. Everyone with the jacket on will be stopped and searched for permits, everyone else will be shot on site. Watch and see!

Deuem

petrus4



We've got this video from Alex Jones now, as well.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

thorfourwinds

Quote from: Gigas on July 20, 2012, 06:31:14 PM
Yes, this was a made to happen horror show by the controllers...

Agreed.

QuoteDeja vue, 911 all over again with sound investigative work with all kinds of before the event clues but nothing being done about it.

Agreed.

QuoteBTW, I viewed the images of the guy who was labeled the bomber and it looked very deliberatly photochopped he was cut and pasted into the bus depot lobby. Of all the people in the photo, he seemed to be missing his shadow on the marble floor.

This stuff is made up to get you where they want you.

We like where you are going with this.

Link/and/or photo, please?

Thank you for your time. consideration and participation.

Peace Love Light

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Amaterasu

Quote from: deuem on July 21, 2012, 11:18:32 AM
When this is all said and done, you will need a permit to carry your gun out of the house. It will have travel plans for the day and no ammo will be allowed with it. They do this with planes now. That is the next step. They can't take them away so they will regulate the movement. Anyone caught with a loaded gun or a gun and ammo will be taken down town. One with out the other they can control. No where does it say they can't do that! After that, they will make you wear a bright red or orange jacket if you are with gun or ammo. Everyone with the jacket on will be stopped and searched for permits, everyone else will be shot on site. Watch and see!

Deuem

Deuem,

When this is done...You will have to have a permit to have a gun at all!  And it will likely go the way of the marijuana tax stamp.  You have to have a gun to get the permit to get a gun...  What?  You want Your first gun???  Sorry.  You have to have a (illegal) gun to get the permit to get a gun.  And since We took away all the guns...  Too bad.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Shasta56

The routine presence of APD at the Aurora Town Center, secondary to gang activity, played a large part in the fast response.  The center does not allow unaccompanied minors to haunt the mall on weekend nights because it was losing so much business to gang activity. 
I don't feel objective enough on this incident to comment about the possibility of mind control.  I do find myself wondering if such a thing could have happened when my cousin Tom was chief of police here.  I think the police used to be more in tune with the populace.

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

Amaterasu

#27
Well something odd was involved, Shasta.  A broke, unemployed college student does not come up with all that specialized equipment and weaponry without outside involvement.


"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Ellirium113

Something definitely seems afoot to me...

QuoteHolmes had enrolled last year in a neuroscience Ph.D. program at the University of Colorado-Denver, though he left the program last month for unknown reasons. In academic achievement, "he was at the top of the top," recalled Timothy P. White, chancellor at the University of California, Riverside, where Holmes earned his undergraduate degree before attending the Denver school.

Those who knew Holmes described him as a shy, intelligent person raised in California by parents who were active in their well-to-do suburban neighborhood in San Diego. Holmes played soccer at Westview High School and ran cross-country before going to college.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/07/21/colorado-theatre-shooting.html?ref=fh,www.mymanitoba.com

???

QuoteAcquaintance: Holmes Unalarming, 'Kind of Geeky'
Jackie Mitchell, who lives a block from Holmes' apartment in Aurora, said he had several beers with Holmes just days before the shooting and Holmes did not show any angry or anti-social tendencies.

"He seemed kind of geeky," Mitchell said. "We just talked about football... that kind of thing."


http://abcnews.go.com/US/aurora-colo-batman-shooter-james-holmes-phd-student/story?id=16817842#.UAmg62FQ6Ag

QuoteMr. Holmes seemed ordinary too, for the most part, said Billy Kromka, a premed student at the University of Colorado, Boulder, who worked with Mr. Holmes for three months last summer as a research assistant.

Quote"There was no way I thought he could have the capacity to commit an atrocity like this," said Mr. Kromka, who is from Aurora. Mr. Kromka said that Mr. Holmes's "disposition was a little off" and that he could be socially awkward, one of the quieter people in the lab. He spent much of his time immersed in his computer, often participating in role-playing online games.
His criminal history with the Aurora Police Department consisted before Friday of one traffic summons, for speeding, in October.

A spokeswoman for the University of Colorado Denver-Anschutz Medical Campus, Jackie Brinkman, said Mr. Holmes was in the process of dropping out of school because of academic problems. She said the university was unaware of any incidents with campus police or disciplinary problems involving Mr. Holmes while he was enrolled.

Mr. Holmes grew up in a quiet, middle-class community at the eastern edge of San Diego, where his parents still live. Two-story, Spanish-style tract homes line both sides of the street, all white stucco with red tile roofs and well-kept lawns. His mother, Arlene Rosemary Holmes, is a registered nurse.

One neighbor, Margie Aguilar, said she knew the Holmes family, who she said had lived in the area for at least 10 years. Her son was a little younger than Mr. Holmes and attended the same high school, Westview, which is just up the street.

"The parents are really, really nice people," Ms. Aguilar said. "This is the last thing you'd expect."


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/shooting-at-colorado-theater-showing-batman-movie.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1

Well certainly one extreme to the other and NO ONE SUSPECTED A THING?

QuoteThe man in custody for allegedly killing 12 people at the screening of the latest Batman movie in Aurora, Colorado told authorities after the shooting that he "was The Joker," NYPD police commissioner Ray Kelly said today.

Kelly told reporters the suspect, identified by federal officials as 24-year-old James Holmes, had dyed his hair like The Joker. The Joker is a well-known villain in the fictional Batman universe. The attack took place at a screening of "The Dark Knight Rises," the final movie in a Batman trilogy, following "The Dark Knight" in which The Joker was the principal villain.


http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-suspect-joker-cops/story?id=16822251

QuoteIn the last 60 days Mr. Holmes had purchased four guns at local gun shops, Chief Oates said. And through the Internet, he bought more than 6,000 rounds of ammunition: more than 3,000 rounds for the assault rifle, 3,000 rounds of .40 caliber ammunition for the two Glocks, and 300 rounds for the 12-gauge shotgun. The guns were all bought legally, a federal law enforcement official said.


Quote"Our investigation determined his apartment is booby trapped with various incendiary and chemical devices and apparent trip wires," Chief Oates said around midday Friday. "We have an active and difficult scene. It may be resolved in hours or days. We simply don't know how we're going to handle that." Federal law enforcement officials said that the apartment had been so extensively booby-trapped that the devices could not be safely defused and that a robot would be sent to trigger them. Late Friday, the dozens of residents in five apartment buildings in the area remained evacuated.

"It is a very vexing problem how to enter that apartment safely," Chief Oates said. "Personally I've never seen anything like what the pictures show us is in there. I'm a layman when it comes to bomb stuff. I see an awful lot of wires. Trip wires. Jars full of ammunition. Jars full of liquid. Some things that look like mortar rounds. We have a lot of challenges to get in there safely."


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/shooting-at-colorado-theater-showing-batman-movie.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

QuoteQuestion: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?A decent AR-15 rifle costs $1,000 or more all by itself. The shotgun and handgun might run another $800 total. Spare mags, sights, slings, and so on will run you at least another $1,000 across three firearms. The bullet-proof vest is easily another $800, and the cost of the bomb-making gear is anybody's guess. With all the specialty body gear, ammunition, booby-trap devices and more, I'm guessing this is at least $20,000 in weapons and tactical gear, much of which is very difficult for civilians to get in the first place.

The mere manufacture of an explosive booby-trap device is, all by itself, a felony crime by the way. And remember: "Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said Holmes' apartment is booby-trapped with a 'sophisticated' maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it," reported Yahoo News

http://www.prisonplanet.com/colorado-batman-shooting-shows-obvious-signs-of-being-staged.html

Was this allowed to happen?



:o

deuem

Quote from: Gigas on July 20, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
Take note of the shadow of the bomber quickly recognized and ID'd by on the spot detective investigators.


Hello Gigas, As you might know or not I do a lot of work with light. Sun light and shadows show up real nice. I will not be posting the results from this photo.

IMHO: But will say that all the arrows are correct. I found 3 strong light sources. One clarification, the arrow on the upper right is sunlight and reflections not shadow, it extends on the floor right past him on the right and out of frame. It overlaps the shadow from the guy on the right who has a shadow also the same as the man. Every thing in the photo looks good except the 3 faces and her hair got cut. Her arm is the only thing that looks real to me. All 3 faces seemed to have been changed out. Other than that, the photo looks real. I can not pick up that he has been shopped in. Oh, also the crest or photo on the t has been changed or altered.

Detective Deuem on the case.