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Started by skywatcher, August 04, 2012, 08:17:08 AM

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Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2012, 07:39:38 PM
World average life expectancy...

...

That has more to do with hygiene and getting enough to eat.  I bet You will find a correlation between good hygiene and locations of the Double Doors of Death (TM)...
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zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 14, 2012, 07:42:57 PM
Unless - and I am supposing here - We were genetically engineered, and Our domesicated animals were genetically engineered to provide for Us (as well as their young).  A thought, and one that has a fair probability of being so, I estimate.

'genetically engineered" based on what? :P

QuoteAh.  Wonder about an organic apple...  If it contains a fluoride, I bet We're talking calcium fluoride.

Not sure I ever saw an inorganic apple   :o

Oh wait... yeah there are some ceramic ones... probably not good for you



QuoteI disagree.

figured you might :D

QuoteIt is not a balance - like if I just eat one thing I can balance out that cyanide I nibbled on... 

yeah I LOVE my cyanide dose... lovely ALMOND flavor :D

"Bitter almonds may yield from 4–9 mg of hydrogen cyanide per almond"

QuoteApple seeds contain a cyanide compound.
When we think of dangers lurking in our food, we tend to concentrate on the threats posed by chemical additives or by improper and careless handling. Yet the truth is that we routinely come into contact with naturally-occurring poisons in a number of the fruits we ingest.

Apples are one such fruit: their pips (seeds) contain amygdalin, a cyanide and sugar compound that degrades into hydrogen cyanide (HCN) when metabolized.  Cyanide itself is a poison that kills by denying blood the ability to carry oxygen and thereby causes its victims to die of asphyxiation.

Luckily for those fond of their Granny Smiths, the body can detoxify cyanide in small doses, and the number of apple seeds it takes to pack a lethal punch is therefore huge — even the most dedicated of apple eaters is extremely unlikely to ingest enough pips to cause any harm. Yet those who have heard apple seeds house a poison (usually remembered as arsenic, a quite different though equally deadly compound) cling to the frightening belief that swallowing a small number of pips spells instant death. We've had folks fret to us that ingesting as few as three apple seeds would do someone in, a "fact" which, if true, would mean each and every one of us was flirting with the grim reaper every time we made a grab for an apple

http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp

QuoteA far greater natural source of cyanide is the cassava root, a vegetable favored by many in Africa. (Westerners know this plant best as tapioca.) Drying, soaking, and baking cassava roots renders its cyanide precursor, linamarin, harmless, but if that process is not carried out properly the cassava can remain poisonous.

QuoteYeah, there are some like that.  And there are some People who eat when and whatever They want who are obese and dying of heart attacks...  The point is, most People who seek the OPTIMAL diet for health, are quite healthy.

OPTIMAL being the operative word here. MOST people have neither the time nor the knowledge to create an OPTIMAL diet that is suited for THEIR individual needs. No two people are alike so giving generic advice can be dangerous.

Every time the case of meat eaters vs vegans comes up all the vegans are saying you can get PROTEIN from veggies so you don't need meat (or at least diary products)

What ALL those 'advisers' forget is AMINO ACIDS  The body needs 22... we synthesize ( a healthy person) most of them. Of the 22 standard amino acids, 9 are called essential amino acids because the human body cannot synthesize them from other compounds at the level needed for normal growth, so they must be obtained from food. In addition, cysteine, taurine, tyrosine, and arginine are semiessential amino-acids in children, because the metabolic pathways that synthesize these amino acids are not fully developed. The amounts required also depend on the age and health of the individual, so it is hard to make general statements about the dietary requirement for some amino acids.

Now here is the problem... if you are missing ONE of those 9 in your diet, especially as a child still growing, your body will NOT compensate and grow properly or be in an OPTIMAL state of health.

This is an undisputed FACT. Now I am not going to go into whether or not you can get all 9 of these ESSENTIAL amino acids on a strict Vegan diet... without at LEAST having dairy includes in that diet...

But I will ask this  How many vegans out there KNOW that they are getting these ESSENTIAL amino acids and thus are healthy?

I have seen some Vegan advise that is utterly frightening...

Well here is one vegan that has a story to tell... a little bit talkative... but then that is the effect of the nervous condition too ;)

My Vitamin B12 Deficiency & Change of Diet!



Solutions to health are not "One rule fits all" You need to work with a nutritinist that can select what is right for YOU as an individual

All disease is a function of LACK of some chemical in your body. identify that lacking chemical and you will cure the disease

(this will no longer work once a condition has cause actual permanent damage, but can still help)

A doctor prescribing medicine for a 100 lb female at the same dose as a 200 lb male is just utter stupidity :P

Works the same as food and nutrition... it depends on body type, sex and age, and activity level, as towhat you need.


zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 14, 2012, 07:46:37 PM
That has more to do with hygiene and getting enough to eat.  I bet You will find a correlation between good hygiene and locations of the Double Doors of Death (TM)...

Even so  it negates the supposition that the NWO is out to wipe us out slowly... because the stats show the exact opposite :D

And you yourself say there is abundance and no issue with too many people on this old abused rock :D

zorgon

QuoteLOL!  Sure, z.  I recommend Ya go to Fukushima and bask in all that healthy stuff!

See this is what I am getting at....

Its a matter of degree... water is an essential need but sticking my head under water can prove fatal very quickly.

We will adapt :P

Fukushima disaster caused mutant butterflies: scientists


Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2012, 08:39:16 PM
'genetically engineered" based on what? :P

Whatever the ASA-RRR had in mind.  [smile]

QuoteNot sure I ever saw an inorganic apple   :o

Oh wait... yeah there are some ceramic ones... probably not good for you

::)  I'm guessing You know what I mean here, z.  You're just being...how to say this diplomatically...?  A snotface?  [grin]  Ok.  Not so diplomatic.  LOL!

Quoteyeah I LOVE my cyanide dose... lovely ALMOND flavor :D

"Bitter almonds may yield from 4–9 mg of hydrogen cyanide per almond"

http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp

Yes, but I was speaking of pure cyanide.  And You knew that too. 

QuoteOPTIMAL being the operative word here. MOST people have neither the time nor the knowledge to create an OPTIMAL diet that is suited for THEIR individual needs. No two people are alike so giving generic advice can be dangerous.

Fine, but the point is that there are general guidelines.  No person can be healthy if They have zero protein in Their diet.  E T C .  We can approach optimal with a general Human guideline.

QuoteEvery time the case of meat eaters vs vegans comes up all the vegans are saying you can get PROTEIN from veggies so you don't need meat (or at least diary products)

What ALL those 'advisers' forget is AMINO ACIDS  The body needs 22... we synthesize ( a healthy person) most of them. Of the 22 standard amino acids, 9 are called essential amino acids because the human body cannot synthesize them from other compounds at the level needed for normal growth, so they must be obtained from food. In addition, cysteine, taurine, tyrosine, and arginine are semiessential amino-acids in children, because the metabolic pathways that synthesize these amino acids are not fully developed. The amounts required also depend on the age and health of the individual, so it is hard to make general statements about the dietary requirement for some amino acids.

Now here is the problem... if you are missing ONE of those 9 in your diet, especially as a child still growing, your body will NOT compensate and grow properly or be in an OPTIMAL state of health.

I am fully aware, yes.  But there are vegetable sources with complete protein...  Hemp seed, for one...

QuoteThis is an undisputed FACT. Now I am not going to go into whether or not you can get all 9 of these ESSENTIAL amino acids on a strict Vegan diet... without at LEAST having dairy includes in that diet...

But I will ask this  How many vegans out there KNOW that they are getting these ESSENTIAL amino acids and thus are healthy?

Likely those who have researched things like hemp seed, quinoa and other sources of a complete protein and ensure Their diets include them.  My sister is vegan and has been for decades.  She appears to be quite healthy.  Not palid, emaciated, sickly, etc. at all.  But then She did Her homework.

QuoteSolutions to health are not "One rule fits all" You need to work with a nutritinist that can select what is right for YOU as an individual

Yes, You can fine-tune the general Human guidelines for Individuals.

QuoteAll disease is a function of LACK of some chemical in your body. identify that lacking chemical and you will cure the disease

Really?  You think cancer from a hot particle is curable (avoidable) with the right chemical (whatever it might be)?  What is Your evidence for this statement?

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Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2012, 08:42:10 PM
Even so  it negates the supposition that the NWO is out to wipe us out slowly... because the stats show the exact opposite :D

And you yourself say there is abundance and no issue with too many people on this old abused rock :D

Yes, there is.  We just have a distribution problem.  Mainly constricted - make that 100% constricted - by money issues.  Distributing food by profit and not need is a primary one.

But it does NOT negate "the supposition that the NWO is out to wipe us out slowly" - because while They are trying to secretly put Their plans into action, We are finding ways to extend life - by avoiding the things They use, for example.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

deuem

Lets say for the moment that the distribution problem is not the food, it is the people. Why in the world would people move too or live in places where there is no food? They do it all the time and then the world has to reach out and feed them. Don't feed them, move them. I can understand a drought situation on an area that usually gives crops. Ok, feed them. But why is it that for thousands of years there are still people living in places where food does not grow. I don't understand that! I would do anything to get my kids out of there so they could have a better life, not just raise more to die. Even if it took my life, I would get them out. No matter what!
Take all that time they use making new kids and start walking to a better place. Animals do it all the time, migrate or die.   There is plenty of food, just too many people living in stupid places! WHY?