I just fell further down the rabbit hole

[undo11]

it's wood covered in gold.  the whole thing was like a gigantic circuit board with water playing a role as well, in the generation of electricity.  if you notice in the video about the temple, as the camera pans in, you see the shape of the temple outlined. the shape is the same as this.  see it?

[robomont]

you gals have really taken this to a new level.i agree with parts of both of your theories.but im out of my league compared to yall.thankyou both for your effort .i have been somewhat enlightened.

[The Matrix Traveller]

solomon's temple, which predated the dome of the rock mosque,  was not pentagonal. however it was egyptian. 
it looked like this



everything was covered in gold. as a result, you had to wear clothing that didn't generate static electricity, which is mentioned in the description of how to build the temple and care for its furnishings.

http://www.templemount.org/radarir.html

The Site of The Golden Dome of the Rock:
Former Altar of Ashtoreth the Phoenician Goddess

Research into the subject of Jerusalem, in general, and the Temple in particular, is almost at a standstill
due to today's political and religious constraints. It is impossible to dig in and under the Temple Mount,
es of the compound. These methods include the following: (i) ground penetrating radar (GPR)
investigations through the outer walls of the Mount; (ii) high-frequency seismic tests through the walls,
(iii) magnetic mapping; and (iii) thermal infra-red imagery (1). While both radar and infra-red imagery
have provided valuable information concerning the Moriah compound, the following paragraphs
deal specifically with the results obtained from infra-red imaging. Infra-red images have been take
by this writer in the past few years from stationary positions outside the walls of the compound,
as well as from helicopters flying over the site at various heights (2).

Infra-red imagery registers changes in thermal radiation above the surface of bodies of varying
thermal capacity, such as boulders or walls buried beneath the surface. During the day the surface
of the Temple Mount heats uniformly from the sun, and this heat is conducted into the ground beneath.
At night the surface cools by radiation, however heat flow back up from the sub-surface is non-uniform
because of cisterns, voids, bedrock, old foundations, channels, and so on. Just before dawn,
the surface temperature distribution can vary by fractions of a degree or even by several degrees.

These temperature patterns can be mapped using a special imaging " camera" sensitive
to infra-red wavelengths.
(In addition to diurnal heating and cooling patterns, slowly changing seasonal heat-flow differences
also occur.
These can reveal information about deeper anomalies beneath the surface).
The IR method facilitates the gathering of information over extensive areas while physical contact
with the surface being examined is unnecessary.

IR images have been taken at various hours of the day, the most effective time in our experience thus far
being the hours immediately following sunset. The difference in temperature between the various areas
as as much as three or four degrees, while the instuments used were sensitive to temperature differences
as small as 0.1 dgree C.

Figure 1 shows the raised Islamic platform with the Golden Dome at its center.
The surrounding platform is paved uniformly with stone, though the pattern of the paving changes
around the building in rows that are parallel with the walls of the octagonal structure, except for
the western side.
Figures 2-4 are infra-red images of the site, which clearly show the difference in thermal radiation
to the east of the structure, this is specifically seen at sunrise and sunset.
This radiation, which at midnight is uniformly admitted is, sharply demarcated and the extensions
of these lines of demarcation - which penetrate the Golden Dome - can be seen to form a pentagon.


The Temple Mount Pentagon in the First Temple Period


In Amman, Jordon, in the ancient Acropolis there, traces have been found of a Roman temple to Hercules.
Under the flooring of this temple there is an amorphous rocky mass with one corner protruding upward
- with a small cave in it
(see Fig 7) .

The Italian archaeologists who first dug there raised the possibility that this rock served during the Iron age
as a "high place" dedicated to Milcom, the god of the Ammonites (I Kings 11:5) (3).

Can the rocky prominences under the Golden Dome, the "Dome of the Spirits" and the El-Umriyya school
in the Moriah compound in Jerusalem have been idolatrous "high places" in ancient times?

In the seaport archaeological site of Caesarea, at the site of Strato's Tower built in the fifth century B.C.E.
by the Phoenician king 'Abd 'Ashtart, traces of the ancient wall are discernible.
Between the two sides of the northern gate there are rounded towers and in the northern corner of the wall
there is a mass of an imperfectly pentagonal structure, the length of the long sides of which
is some 18 feet.
(see Fig 8 ).

Ever since the Chalcolithic Period pentagonal structures were not commonly used in buildings.
Finding such structures in Jerusalem and Caesaria, when both are located to the north of the settled area
near its wall, raises the possibility of the structures having had the identical function.
Both of these structures may have served as idolatrous "high places"
(see Fig 9) (4).

The name of Strato's Tower preserves the name of the goddess 'Ashtrt ('Ashtoreth'), a name well-known
in the ancient world.
As already noted, the settlement at Caesarea was also built by the Phoenician king 'Abd 'Ashtart (5).

The book of II Kings, chapter 23, tells of Josiah, king of Judah in the sixth century B.C.E.,
cleansing Jerusalem from idolatrous places of worship.

"The king defiled the high places overlooking Jerusalem, to the south of the Mount of Destruction,
which had been built by Solomn. King of Israel, to Ashtoreth, goddess of the Sidonites,
and to Chemosh, god of Moab, and to Milcom, god of the Ammonites."

At least one archaeologist has expressed the opinion that the Mount of Destruction, to the south
of which there were 'high places', was not the Mount of Olives but rather Bet Zeita, located to the north
of the Antonia fortress - in the area of the present Rockfeller Museum (6).

It is quite possible that the rock under the Golden Dome, the rock under the "Dome of the Spirits"
and that the area under the present-day El-Umriyya school make up an idolatrous compound associated
with the First Temple.

This site may have existed since the tenth century B.C.E. up till the sixth century B.C.E.
- over three hundred years.
This idolatrous center was rooted in the pagan world of Amman and Moab to the east,
and in the Phoenician world on the Mediterranean coast.
Therefore, the pentagonal foundation stones under the Golden Dome could be the remains
of a high place dedicated to Ashtoreth, the idol of Sidon.

It should be noted that the ancient symbol representing the goddess Ashtoreth (Astarte) is an octagon
and a pentagon, the two forms that we find are impressed upon one another at this site.

The shapes and locations of the rocky high places under the Moriah Compound thus back up the testimony
of the Bible.
It is our belief that we have located the ruins of former Canaanite High Places on the Temple Mount,
including the site of the Dome of the Rock Islamic shrine.


The Pentagon in the period of the Second Temple


In the book, "The Jewish Wars" Josephus Flavius, tells how Antigonus, son of Hyrcanos, walked north
from the Temple towards the fortifications on the North end of the Temple Mount that were eventually
expanded and renamed "Fortress Antonia".
On his way to the fortress to visit his sick brother Aristobulus, Antigonus passed through the tunnel
called "Strato's Tower."
It was there that his fellow soldiers struck and killed him.

The name "Strato's Tower," (which preserves the name of the goddess Ashtoreth), was no longer common
in the Hellenistic period, and even the Essene Yehuda did not remember this name (7) .

If the outward resemblance of the pentagonal Strato's Tower in Casarea and the Jerusalem pentagon
is of any significance, then the pentagonal shape revealed in the infra-red images taken of
the Golden Dome area is the site of Strato's Tower.

Seal imprints on pottery found in Jerusalem and in Ramat Rachel display a five-pointed star
with a pentagon at its centre.

Around the pentagonal star's rays appears the word JRSLM in the ancient Hebrew letters.
These seals relate to the third and second centuries B.C.E., i.e., to the Hasmonean period.
(See Fig 10).

It may be assumed that we have here evidence of the existence of a pentagonal boulder
with its western extremity protruding above the paved surface - the"Sakra" under the Golden Dome
(see Fig 5 ).

The pentagonal boulder may be described as a 45-meter square
with its western corner cut off.

It would seem to be an artificially quarried and processed boulder.

There exists to this day a well-known cave within the bedrock under the Golden Dome.
The cave walls have been cut parallel to the boundaries of the rock mass visible in the infra-red photographs
(see Fig 5).

Furthermore, the axis of symmetry of the cave corners and that of the pentagon facing east-west coalesce
with the axis of symmetry of the staircase leading from the lower level to that of the raised platform
(see Fig 5).

The axis of symmetry in the cave does not coincide with that of the center of the shrine's octagonal walls.
It may well be that the staircase into the cave preserves an ancient route relating to the original
pentagonal foundation stone carved from bedrock, and to the cave.

The cave seems to predate the Dome of the Rock and may even have been a burial site.

In the northwestern corner of the Moriah Compound, there is another large bedrock outcropping.
The shape of this rock mass is amorphous, and it is at the present time covered with the top soil of a park.
At its northwestern corner a rocky mass protrudes above the ground.
On this higher portion of the bedrock is located the present-day Islamic El-Umriyya school.
There is a known cave in the center of this bedrock mass also,
(see Fig 6).

Under the small cupola known as the "Dome of the Tablts" or "Dome of the Spirits" about 100 meters
North of the Dome, between the Golden Dome and the El-Umriyya school' one can discern yet another one
outcropping of rock.

Here, too, a staircase leads directly to this portion of bedrock outcropping
(see Fig 6).

What was originally a high places of Ashtoreth on the Temple Mount may well have become
a pentagonal tower in later times.

This tower became the symbol of Jerusalem in the Hasmonean period.
It was apparently incorporated into the Antonia Fortress constructed by Herod the Great.

If indeed the rock under the Golden Dome is a remnant of Strato's Tower, then according to the route
followed by Antigonus from the Temple to the Northern fortifications it may be assumed that the Temple
was located south of the Golden Dome.

This conclusion is yet a further indication of the Jewish Temple having been located between
the Golden Dome and the El-Aqsa Mosque, and not as claimed by most sholars, on the precise location
of the Golden Dome. ( 8 )

Conclusions
1.The pagan, Canaanite, area of worship from the First Temple period, was, we conclude, situated in a region that
includes:
The Golden Dome, The Dome of the Spirit and The El-Umriyya rock.

2.The Antonia fortress and its towers, during the Second Temple period, were situated
at the Golden Dome and the immediate surrounding area.
In this model the protecting moat (now filled in) which protected the Northern wall of Fortress Antonia
is in the logical location.

3.The First and Second Jewish Temples were situated to the south between the Golden Dome
and the El-Aqsa Mosque.
(see Fig.11)


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Bibliography and Notes


1. Each method has advantages and disadvantages, therefore thorough, repeated tests
should be carried out.
Nevertheless, the Infrared method has an advantage that one can obtain data from a distance,
without the need to examine the area from close up.

2. Radar tests were carried out around the Eastern, Western, and Southern wall in 1990..
Infrared tests were performed in 1993-1995, using two different instruments:
An Inframetrics scanner, provided with the assistance of Eli Cohen from Elbit co., and an Aegma scanner
provided with the assistance of Dov Berger from Shartel co.

3. Encyclopedia of Archaelogical Excavation 1960, Vol 2, "Rabbat Amon" pp 512 in the Holy Land,
1960, Vol 2, "Rabat Amon" pp. 512

4. In II Kings chapter 23, verse 8, it states that Josiah" broke down the high places of the gates
that were in the entering in of the gate of Joshua ..... at the gate of the city."

This description coordinates with the description of the pentagon found near the tower,
at the entrance to the city in Stato's tower.

5. The New Encyclopedia of Archaeological excavations in The Holy Land, Vol 4, 1992, p 1370
6. Horovitz, "Jerusalem in our Literature."
7. Flavius, J. The Jewish War, Book 1,3 1-5
8. Sagiv, T. 1994 "The Temple is to the North," Tchuman Vol 14, 1994.

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List of Illustrations


Fig. 1. The Moriah court - upper court.
Fig. 2. Infrared photographs of The Golden Dome.
Fig. 3. Infrared photographs of The Golden Dome.
Fig. 4. Infrared photographs of The Golden Dome.
Fig. 5. The Golden Dome in a pentagon shape, and at it's tip the rock. The cave at The Golden Dome.
The walls lie parallel to the outlines of the pentagon rock. The symetric axis of the pentagon rock,
the cave, and the case of stairs - in one.
Fig. 6. The El-Umriyya school is located on the beam of the rock. The Dome of the Spirit
in it's centre a barren rock.
Fig. 7. Aman - The Hercolus Temple - The rock, at it's tip the beam. Researchers assume that this location
is The Alter of Malcom, God of The Ammonites.
Fig. 8. Caeserea, Strato's Tower - The Pentagonal Tower.
Fig. 9. Jerusalem and Ceserea - at both sites the pentagon alter is situated to the north of the city.
Fig. 10. Marks on vessels from 2-3 B.C. The marks show a pentagon surrounded by beams
that creates a five sided star. In between the beams the Hebrew letters: JRSLM.
Fig. 11. The Antonia fortress and it's towers, from The Second Temple period, are situated
at the Golden Dome and its surrounding area.
The Jewish Temple is situated to the south between the Golden Dome and the El-Aqsa Mosque.

[undo11]

matrix

interesting.  most of the ones you mentioned are after solomon's temple was destroyed and some are not on the same site.  i am resisting attributing anything god like to enlil, at the moment. 

[petrus4]

The two millennia of Church propaganda are over: Mary Magdalene, long patronised and marginalised as a reformed prostitute, can now assume her rightful place in the history of the Christian religion - by Christ's side, as his lover, spiritual equal, officiating priestess and even his chosen successor.

Representative of the Sacred Feminine - a human woman embodying the principles of the Great Goddess, beloved across the ancient world - Mary was the object of hatred and fear for the early Church Fathers.

The only problem is, that we've gone from institutionalised misogyny on the one hand, to (in the Western world, at least) male disposability as the socially sanctioned paradigm on the other.  As a man, I can't count the number of times over the last 20 years, that I've had the thought that I was born the wrong gender; not because I dislike being male at all, but simply because I don't like being viewed as literal rubbish, purely because I have a penis.

Case in point; I was in the supermarket just yesterday, and while looking around, came across some fairtrade coffee, which had, "Harvested by Women," (with the W capitalised, as here) on it, as though that was something of enormous importance.  Men are now considered garbage, literally.  As a gender, we are viewed as having absolutely no worth.  It isn't a case of feminism wanting to subjugate men, either; there is a desire for humanity to literally become a single gender, exclusively female species.  Male non-existence is considered the ideal.

And is it any coincidence that the canonical, Biblical gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John barely mention her by name, while she is the star of those gospels the Church Fathers voted to reject?

Again, this is the problem.  One gender or the other is always depicted as being dominant.  Either we've got patriarchy where women are experiencing clitoral mutilation (as in the Islamic states) on the one hand, or we've got a scenario in the West where you're allowed to be gay, black, female, or MtF transsexual; but the one thing you are not permitted to be, is a heterosexual white male.

I don't want demographic dominance.  I thought Manifest Destiny and white colonialism were murderously, hideously wrong, and I still do.  The only thing I'm asking for, and the one thing that I really do not feel that I am getting, is the literal right to exist at all.

In the inevitable Church backlash against the new eagerness for the Gnostic Gospels that has been fuelled world-wide by The Da Vinci Code, the Gnostic Gospels have been hastily denounced as of dubious theology.

That may or may not sway mainstream opinion, but anyone with more than cursory knowledge of Christian theology, is already aware that the entire basis of the existence of the Catholic church is completely illegitimate to begin with.  I will accept the Vatican's right to exist on the basis of the charitable work that many elements within Catholicism perform on a daily basis; but I will not acknowledge its' right to exist on the basis of legitimate theology, because it has none.

Original Sin and Vicarious Atonement are both lies.  The entire sacrificial doctrine originated with Paul of Tarsus, who is and was a heretic, and who was committed to the annihilation of Jesus Christ's evangelical community.  Christianity only makes any theological sense whatsoever from an Essenic/Gnostic basis, not that of Catholicism.  The primary purpose of the Vatican's existence has always been social and political control, and a re-orientation of the Roman Empire that was more consistent with Pisces rather than Aries, which would allow it to continue its' imperial dominance.

[VillageIdiot]

I don't see men in the way you describe. You guys piss me off from time to time but I've never viewed you as garbage.

[undo11]

men are awesome.
the problem is, islam is taking over the planet by sheer population volume and they are embracing democracy (mob rule) because once their numbers are sufficient they can call for sharia and get it.   in addition, they are indoctrinating wide swaths of blacks and using race hatred as a means to increase not only their size but the size of the mob rule.

in essence, they are waging not just a war against the west but against women, and humans in general.   some even refer to white women as the whores of babylon.  puts a whole new look on torturing and murdering women in the fires of inquistion, does it not?  and some atheists are vehemently supporting them because they would rather the "crazy," racist folks, get rid of the christians, that way they don't have to.

[petrus4]

men are awesome.
the problem is, islam is taking over the planet by sheer population volume and they are embracing democracy (mob rule) because once their numbers are sufficient they can call for sharia and get it.   in addition, they are indoctrinating wide swaths of blacks and using race hatred as a means to increase not only their size but the size of the mob rule.

in essence, they are waging not just a war against the west but against women, and humans in general.   some even refer to white women as the whores of babylon.  puts a whole new look on torturing and murdering women in the fires of inquistion, does it not?  and some atheists are vehemently supporting them because they would rather the "crazy," racist folks, get rid of the christians, that way they don't have to.

Yep; and given the fact that I've read that leaked letter written by Albert Pike, I've also got a fair idea of who put the Muslims up to their current ongoing impersonation of the Daleks, as well.

Then again, as VillageIdiot and you have both just demonstrated that I should not generalise about women, so we should probably not completely generalise about Islam.

[undo11]

petrus

i love muslim people the same as anyone else, but i do not personally want to be raped just because they think they can, nor burned alive, crucified, given a masectomy without meds, head chopped off, hands chopped off, sodomized, run over by a tank, blown to bits, stuffed in a sack and forced to ride in sweltering heat in the back of a truck, covered head to toe in black,  stoned to death because i reported a rape, or any other variety of the completely dehumanizing and deliberately anti-women social monstrosity known as islam.   i may love them but i don't have to embrace their dysfunction.

[robomont]

i too feel society is going towards eventually eliminating men.first you the strong woman agenda being practiced in the msmovies on tv.and at the bigscreen.alot of times the authors even straightup say  so.harry potter.the girl with the dragon tattoo.then you add in things like the rape issue in the military.i have a long list but to dull right now to list all.

it kind of reminds me of the bee hive idea .the males are garbage after breeding season.even society puts women on a pedestal but they scream equal rights.ive never had a female open a door for me?there are hints that grays work with a hive mentality.unless population expansion ends .socializism /hive/mob will win out.as we are running out of jobs.so a new menial labor force will be created by criminalizing male traits such as violence vulgarity rape.these are usually sperned on by rises in testosterone.from males doing physical labor.thats why there are more women going to jail because more women are doing physical labor.since men have most of those jobs.they will be criminalized.thats why we have a larger percentage of herms gays  and douchy mommas boys.because the geneticall superior males are being selectively bread out through incarceration and war.its a tradeoff low violence =fairy hive world.no offence intended to anybody.just a viewpoint that may be askew.

[undo11]

this was the only thing i could find on the subject of albert pike's secret letter

[rdunk]

Well undo, one thing about this "rabbit hole" that is the same as most all other similar holes..............the non-Christians always project themselves as knowing more about all of the detail of Christianity, and God's Word, than does any Christian, including the thought of how very wrong Christianity is to begin with!

And I would find that fact to be very amusing, except, as a Christian, I feel sorry for such misplaced thought and ideas. But then, I do understand how and why that happens, because of the failures of "religiosity" in general - both perceived and actual.

As has been proven throughout the past history, people can just pretty much pick our any/every old type of god, and worship it as they wish! Or not worship a god if that "shoe" comfortably fits! 

Most of man has historically demonstrated a heart-felt need of a god to worship, but not everybody actually does that.

I will have nothing else to add on this subject.

[undo11]

rdunk

i don't think christianity is wrong, i think there's more than one  jehovah in the old testament and one of them is not a good guy.

[The Matrix Traveller]

In the writings, "The LIFE of God" (Also referred to as the LIGHT of Men according to these writings)
was reported to have said, through the "Carpenter" referred to as Jesus today, Quote;

77.  Jesus said, It is I who Am THE LIGHT
which is above them all.

It is I who Am "The ALL".

From Me did The All come forth, and unto Me did The All extend.

Now, there is absolutely NO WAY a human "Primate" is The LIGHT, or the LIGHT a human "Primate" !!!

And there is absolutely NO WAY a Primate is "The ALL" !   


Even IF One believes even in great "Faith", that The LIGHT is a "Primate", (Carpenter)
then sadly that person Deceives Only themselves !

Having "Faith" does NOT make anything "True" or "Correct".

If one has "faith" in B.S., then it does NOT make it "True", because of "Faith".

"Faith" without Works is Useless, and in Vain !


The verse Continued Quote;

Split a piece of wood, and I am there.

And this in NO WAY, says that a "Primate" (Carpenter) is inside such a piece of Wood !   


The verse Continued Quote;

Lift up the stone, and you WILL FIND Me there."

Once again the Word "Me" in the above verse refers to "THE LIGHT" and NOT a human Primate ! (Carpenter)   

Even the Carpenter said, Quote; "Do NOT Bow Down to Me for I am your fellow Servant !"

And in another verse,  "Do NOT call Me Master, for I am your fellow Servant !"


The verse Continued Quote;

78.   Jesus said, "Why have you come out into the desert ?

To see a reed shaken by the wind?

And to see a man clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men?

Upon them are the fine garments, and they are unable  to discern THE TRUTH ."

It is NOT "Religion" that is beneficial... but Rather Knowledge...

Knowledge of "The Truth" !

And there is NO "Religion" in this !

[Pimander]

Men are now considered garbage, literally.  As a gender, we are viewed as having absolutely no worth.  It isn't a case of feminism wanting to subjugate men, either; there is a desire for humanity to literally become a single gender, exclusively female species.  Male non-existence is considered the ideal.

Crowley predicted this.

Again, this is the problem.  One gender or the other is always depicted as being dominant.  Either we've got patriarchy where women are experiencing clitoral mutilation (as in the Islamic states) on the one hand, or we've got a scenario in the West where you're allowed to be gay, black, female, or MtF transsexual; but the one thing you are not permitted to be, is a heterosexual white male.

All predicted by Crowley.

I will accept the Vatican's right to exist on the basis of the charitable work that many elements within Catholicism perform on a daily basis; but I will not acknowledge its' right to exist on the basis of legitimate theology, because it has none.

YOu are right, it is a religion built upon a falsehood.  It has a right to exist only because humans are too stupid to reject the lie and do good things without needing a church.  Idiots.

Original Sin and Vicarious Atonement are both lies.  The entire sacrificial doctrine originated with Paul of Tarsus, who is and was a heretic, and who was committed to the annihilation of Jesus Christ's evangelical community.

Agreed.  Peter was also a heretic.

Christianity only makes any theological sense whatsoever from an Essenic/Gnostic basis, not that of Catholicism.

Which is the reason for all the confusion about the New Testament.

The Bible is more than one kind of writing and any failure to recognise that fact leads to confused garbled interpretation.  It IS NOT ALL GODS WORD (unless all words are created by God).  IT IS NOT ALL HISTORY.  It is not all prophecy.  It is not all law books.  It is not all poetry.  It is not all Roman.  It is not all Gnostic.  It is a mixture of many of these but not exclusively any.

The primary purpose of the Vatican's existence has always been social and political control, and a re-orientation of the Roman Empire that was more consistent with Pisces rather than Aries, which would allow it to continue its' imperial dominance.

At least two of us understand where modern "Christianity" originates and what its purpost is.  Any revised "Christianity" would surely start with what came from Jesus - who was definitely not a Christian in the modern sense of the word!