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Started by Sgt.Rocknroll, November 05, 2011, 01:42:30 PM

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guerande

Sgt.Rock is doing quite a good job ! Sgt. have you seen the A.Sturm job ?
That could be a very good base for you ... he really discovered strange things !
Allan images are on The Living Moon site.
Some can be found till now here :   
It's an E Book made by Allan before he left the Moon   :)

Sgt.Rocknroll

Ok here is my interpretation of why I see on John's picture of the 'spaceport' on the moon's far side. The picture was kind of blurry and I had a hard time trying to visualize and interpret what I was looking at. I used just some simple 3d shapes and modeled what I see.
As always, comments & suggestions are welcomed. Peace 8)


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RUSSO

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

Lunica

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 02, 2011, 04:13:05 PM
Ok here is my interpretation of why I see on John's picture of the 'spaceport' on the moon's far side. The picture was kind of blurry and I had a hard time trying to visualize and interpret what I was looking at. I used just some simple 3d shapes and modeled what I see.
As always, comments & suggestions are welcomed. Peace 8)



Wow, you know your way into 3D! Its very clear, amazing.


Sgt.Rocknroll


Aristarchus Crater

this was difficult because of the condition of the crater with the 'blue' effect and the condition that most pic's have it. I tried modeling both. It's difficult to model on a pic that's taken at an angle and try an produce a 3d model. Well anyway here it is, not much. I'll give it another  try later.
Peace 8)

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exuberant1

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Hey Folks,

Often it has been said by those who implicitly trust NASA that any lunar anomalies from the old Lunar Orbiter probes or Apollo orbital images would also be visible in the new LRO imagery.

With that in mind I would like to demonstrate how easily it is to remove images from the new lro images.

I have chosen a feature near Marius A and removed it from the image data. This feature is over 110 metres across. Nearly 10 000 square metres of lunar surface have been replaced:







This took a senior citizen with no photoshop experience less than three minutes to do. I used the maximum resolution available on the viewer and if I wanted to I could have altered the exif data to delete my tracks - that would have taken an extra minute.

Imagine what a pro is capable of.

Sgt.Rocknroll

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 03, 2011, 07:17:48 PM
Aristarchus Crater

this was difficult because of the condition of the crater with the 'blue' effect and the condition that most pic's have it. I tried modeling both. It's difficult to model on a pic that's taken at an angle and try an produce a 3d model. Well anyway here it is, not much. I'll give it another  try later.
Peace 8)



Ok, I'm not the best at explaining my thoughts sometimes so here goes with another 'enhanced' version of Aritarchus Crater model. I've spruced up the reactor a little to make it resemble a fusion reactor. Not much but enough so it appears more than a few blocks.
I used the pic on the right to model because of the top-down view, just to get a general feel for the dimensions of the crater. I then moved the
model over to the pic on the left and used my imagination to rotated it a little like the pic. The first one I did assumed the reactor would be on the crater floor, this one I envisioned the reactor above the crater with a shaft dropping down into the crater. Anyway I'm having fun.
Peace 8)


Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

guerande

Great job, Sgt ! Bravo !
Would you plse do the same with A.Sturm  " Ulos ", as said before ?
Y'll find there some amazing pics to work on ...

All the best !
Guérande

guerande

@Sergent R&R : I'll give you a proper link asap, but you can find Allan Sturm
on the ancient Living Moon site.

See you later, tks
Guerande

WeekendWarrior

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 05, 2011, 01:42:30 PM

I'm a 3d modeler by trade. I create 3d models from 2d engineering drawings, bascially turning a flat drawing into a working 3d model. Sometimes if the drawings are very old and haven't been updated to show improvement a site, I rely on an operator at a site to take photos of the actual  conditions and I use that to create a 3d model. I'm very good at interpreting distances and visualizing objects in 3 dimensions. I would love to get my hands on some 'quality' photos of objects on the moon and turn them into 3d models. I'm going to try this with some photos that I'll pick out and see if I can give them some 'structure'. I'll have to get some time at work to do this because all my modeling software is on my 'government' computer ::). Wish me luck. ;)

  So with modern(even older) military computer technology it wouldnt even be a trick for NASA to make a real-looking model of the moon and make certain things disappear, then presenting it to people as real moon images. And maybe even make few "anomalies" there to mess with the anomaly searchers?

I remember one thread here where there is a photo where NASA employee holds a moon photo in he's hands and people spotted in this photo a moon anomaly. And NASA came with an explanation where the employee holds a photo of a moon, but it is a 3D model of a moon. So, not a real moon!

Something to think about..

WW

zorgon

Quote from: WeekendWarrior on August 12, 2012, 10:20:45 PM
  So with modern(even older) military computer technology it wouldnt even be a trick for NASA to make a real-looking model of the moon and make certain things disappear, then presenting it to people as real moon images. And maybe even make few "anomalies" there to mess with the anomaly searchers?

Awww come on now... NASA would never even CONSIDER doing that... I mean without computers and air brushing they would have to do that by hand... imagine the work

So stop being silly  :D  NASA didn't air brush anything :P



It was all done by REGULAR paint brush :P



And a little plaster of Paris and calipers to get that depth..



After all they had those great Lunar Orbiter images to work from..



Turn down the lights a bit...



Add some  color flood light (THIS is why NASA doesn't want you seeing true color moon photos to compare with...



And don't forget that small spacecraft window... a cardboard cutout will do..

Lights... camera... ACTION



So lets see what it looks like from the LEM....



Nah NASA would NEVER consider making a fake Moon mockup and filming it...

::)



Somamech

People would wonder how Nasa and other Agencys can get away with this so easy.

The Charles Manson case would no doubt be a clue to that conundrum.  Once the family are in they don't know how to get out... ALIVE  :o

Sgt.Rocknroll

I DO believe we went to the moon. I DO believe NASA has covered up things that they weren't expecting to find and couldn't begin to explain it to the world. So coverup, coverup, coverup.
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zorgon

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 13, 2012, 12:21:12 AM
I DO believe we went to the moon. I DO believe NASA has covered up things that they weren't expecting to find and couldn't begin to explain it to the world. So coverup, coverup, coverup.

Well if they didn't go to the moon... then there is no point looking at moon pictures for anomalies :P

Sgt.Rocknroll

Hell Zorg,,,I was thinking '''''ALIENS'''''...LOLOLL
8)
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