Hastings web site about UFOs and Nuclear Weapons

[Dyna]

hey  51 or anyone

does anyone have any info on connecting the  Philadelphia Experiment/Start date October 28, 1943
with the ufo sightings?
and they had to  be setting it up before that

i've always felt that the ufo's were dimensional not galactic..but that's just me

I had never thought of that possible connection! Interesting!

[space otter]

well here i sit in front of  a fan and laughing at what i have  found about the philadelphia experiement..

the guy who supposedly wrote the letters  Carlos Miguel Allende /Carl Allen
lived in new kensington, pa  about 15 minutes away from where i am now
edit to clarify..sorry it was ambiguous
so i am now going after a different line of inquiry
just a while back A51 referenced some others near by who witnessed ufos and had articles presented in the pgh press at that time..
i must be in a vortex area..bwhahahahahahahahahah

the Allens and  Goerman now on my radar






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Origins of the story[edit]Morris Jessup and Carlos Miguel Allende[edit] This section does not cite any sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (February 2011) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)

In 1955, Morris K. Jessup, an astronomer and former graduate-level researcher, published The Case for the UFO, a book about unidentified flying objects that contains some theories about the different means of propulsion that flying-saucer-style UFOs might use. Jessup speculated that antigravity, or the manipulation of electromagnetism, might be responsible for the observed flight behavior of UFOs. He lamented, both in the book and during the publicity tour that followed, thatspace flight research was concentrated in the area of rocketry, and that little attention had been paid to other theoretical means of flight, which he felt might ultimately be more fruitful. Jessup emphasized that a breakthrough revision of Albert Einstein's "Unified Field Theory" would be critical in powering a future generation of spacecraft.

On January 13, 1955, Jessup received a letter from a man who identified himself as one "Carlos Allende." In the letter, Allende informed Jessup of the "Philadelphia Experiment," alluding to two poorly sourced contemporary newspaper articles as proof. Allende directly responded to Jessup's call for research on the "Unified Field Theory," which he referred to as "UFT." According to Allende, Einstein had developed the theory, but had suppressed it, since mankind was not ready for it — a confession that the scientist allegedly shared with the mathematician and philosopher Bertrand Russell. Allende also said that he had witnessed the Eldridge appear and disappear while serving aboard the SS Andrew Furuseth, a nearby merchant ship. Allende named other crew members with whom he served aboard theAndrew Furuseth, and claimed to know the fate of some of the crew members of the Eldridge after the experiment, including one whom he witnessed disappearing during a chaotic fight in a bar. Although Allende claimed to have observed the experiment while on the Andrew Furuseth, he provided no substantiation of his other claims linking the experiment with the Unified Field Theory, no evidence of Einstein's alleged theory, and no proof of Einstein's alleged private confession to Russell.

Jessup replied to Allende by a postcard, asking for further evidence and corroboration. The reply arrived months later, with the correspondent identifying himself as "Carl M. Allen."

Allen said that he could not provide the details for which Jessup was asking, but he implied that he might be able to recall some by means ofhypnosis. Suspecting that Allende/Allen might be an impostor, Jessup discontinued the correspondence.

Office of Naval Research and the Varo annotation
rest here     :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment



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http://www.crystalinks.com/PhiladelphiaExperiment.html

go down to here

Notes on the Philadelphia Experiment





Carlos Miguel Allende, also known as Carl Allen, was an odd man. He was born on May 31, 1925 in a small town outside of Pennsylvania. On July 14, 1942, Allende joined the Marine Corps and was discharged on May 21, 1943 (Taken from the book titled The Philadelphia Experiment, pg 99). He then joined the Merchant Marine and was assigned to the SS Andrew Furuseth. It was upon this ship that he claimed to see the Eldridge in action.



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http://www.unmuseum.org/philex.htm

o ifsAllende confession the end of the tale? Not quite. In 1979 William Moore and Charles Berlitz wrote a book called "The Philadelphia Experiment." In the book they suggested that Allende's confession may have been false. They also included a copy of what appeared to be a newspaper article from 1943. The book infers that the sailors mentioned in the article were suffering after effects of "The Philadelphia Experiment." The headline read:

Strange Circumstances Surround Tavern Brawl



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http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/philadelphia_experiment.htm

Allende's letters were filled with cryptic references and mailed from an assortment of locales around America. They can be read on-line atwww.wincom.net/~softarts/PHILEXP/CM_ALLEN.TXT . Jessup eventually dismissed Allende as a crank until in 1957 he was contacted by Capt. Sidney Sherby and Comdr. George Hoover, two officers from the Office of Naval Research. They had received a copy of Jessup's book with strange annotations in the margins about a vanishing ship, aliens and other anomalies. The officers from ONR asked Jessup to travel to Washington D.C. to meet with them and discuss what the annotations might mean. When Jessup got there he was surprised to see that the annotations appeared to be from Allende although they had been written in three different colored inks as though three separate individuals had been writing comments.

Jessup had no idea what to make of it and was a little unsettled by the interest that these ONR officers had in the writing, especially about the ship that was made invisible and it's crew severely injured. The officers even paid Varo Inc. to reprint copies of the annotated version of Jessup's book and had them passed around ONR for consideration. Jessup confided in his friend Ivan Sanderson that he felt the officers might want to try the experiment again. Meanwhile Jessup's life began to be plagued by what he called "strange coincidences." He began to complain about his health. and his research efforts took a turn for the worse. In 1959 he was found dead in his car from carbon monoxide poisoning and declared a suicide without the benefit of an autopsy. Many believe to this day that he was actually murdered, with Allende left roaming the country to escape the same fate.

The Office of Naval Research has created a number of form "response" letters over the years to handle public inquiries into the Philadelphia Experiment. The latest version can be found at www.onr.navy.mil/foia/PhillyExp.htm. Somewhat embarrassed by all the attention drawn to them by the activities of the now long gone officers, and having not been in existence at the time of the experiment, the ONR has had to handle the lion's share of public requests for clarification and information. Until 1996 they had no trouble shrugging off accusations of cover-up with simple explanations about degaussing and misunderstandings about the word "invisible." They contend that the legend got started based on the routine task of demagnetizing or "degaussing" the ships so as to be "invisible" to magnetic mines and torpedoes. Echoing this position on "The Unexplained," as an official representative of the US. Navy, was US. naval historian John Reilly. Reilly stated that, as far as he knew, the navy never experimented with making ships invisible with magnetic fields. The navy has been long indirectly assisted in these apologetic efforts by the usual gaggle of disinforments.

"The Unexplained" featured an interview with researcher Robert Goerman, saying that he solved the mystery of the Philadelphia Experiment by a discovery he made about Carlos Allende. A writer from Pennsylvania who penned articles for pulp UFO magazines in the '70s, Goerman considered himself to be "a player," at least an also-ran amongst the galaxy of name UFO researchers of the time. When the book, "The Philadelphia Experiment: Project Invisibility," by William Moore and Charles Berlitz came out in 1979, Goerman was motivated to do his own investigation but in a different direction. Instead of checking into the new information and science that the book mentioned, he latched onto Allende because of a quirk of fate - his parents were neighbors of the parents of Allende. Furthermore, Allende's real name was Allen, Carl Meredith Allen. Goerman's daughter used to visit the Allens and it was just by chance that he discovered that they were in fact the family of the elusive Philadelphia Experiment "witness."

After agreeing to keep certain information about the family confidential, the Allens allowed Goerman to review various cards, letters, and other things that Carl had sent to his family. They described Carl as "a leg puller," and someone who was very intelligent but lacked the discipline to achieve his full potential. It was clear from the items that Goerman looked over that Carl would annotate everything. He was even quirkier and more eccentric than he had ever imagined. Armed with this new information, Goerman was convinced that he had the truth, especially after having conversations with Carl himself. Ignoring all other available information, Goerman wrote "Alias: Carlos Allende" and it was published in "Fate" magazine in 1980, now archived on the internet at www.parascope.com/en/articles/allende.htm . But Goerman's article was not well received by others in the UFO community. He has remained bitter about this, accusing those who ignore or disagree with his analysis as only being interested in "selling their books." An accusation that Goerman made on "The Unexplained" and intentionally or not, inferred this as a motive of the wrong researcher.

"I know the applicable laws, how to operate with law enforcement, do investigations, have a badge and I.D., weapons, the whole nine yards and all legal. I'm versed in psy-ops, surveillance, counter-surveillance, stings, non-lethal weapons. I know how and can intervene in a felony in progress and execute arrest procedures until law enforcement arrives. I've actually been involved in cases against pedophiles, a rouge psychic spy, Men In Black related activity, potential terrorism related to Y2K that threatens national security. No cops or state police have complained so far. I think that earns me the 'special'." So says Marshall Barnes, Special Civilian Investigator Marshall Barnes who "The Unexplained" had contacted through his book distributor because he was described as an expert on the Philadelphia Experiment. Under the pretext of trying to get to the truth, Mark Caras allegedly got Marshall to agree to appear on the show and not allow arguments that Marshall had disproved to go unchallenged.


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PROJECT RAINBOW. Project Rainbow was a military project developed during the early Forties as an attempt to make a ship invisible to enemy radar. It can be ...

[robomont]

varo corp.garland texas,down road from T.I.
ti retirees are masons living around me,mostly specializing in microwave.i was attacked by mason using microwave for last 15 years.until 5-5-2016 when i shut him down.across street from me.
i have berlitz book and montauk book.maybe case for ufo book.library too big to find right now.
ti bought my uncles blank chips and imprinted them with circuits.
gallium arsenide,which is good against emp and may be good inside ufos,he learned technique while at penn university.to grow them.on football scholarship.
invisibility just means bending light and light has magnetic function as does all frequencies.
whats ironic is i gave berlitz book to my dad for birthday present while he worked for my uncle and i knew nothing of any of this.i was in 8th grade at time.which kinda proves my strong psychic tendencies,lol.

microwave is regularly brought up in my research of ufo tech.when i run numbers,the frequency keeps coming up.
so im thinking a microwave magnetron attached to a solenoid coil wrapped around circumference of disc may be half of the ufo equation,as its not the wave thats so much needed as the frequency thats needed.
in some prints,the germans had a bulb.this bulb would short to top pole of craft.this way both magnetism and poles were at same frequency with magnetism lagging.
plus this shows ufo had cyclotron frequency as cyclotron just means the poles and the magnetic field are in resonance/equal.

as light is above this frequency,odds are a newer way of increasing frequency came out in the 80s that pushed the cyclotron frequency to uv,above visible light.which is why the water in ocean zemonized as berlitz book called it.extreme uv applied to ocean water.thus boiling the water and burning anybody outside ship with uv,maybe melting skin and then welding skin to hull.as its basically jello at that point.

[robomont]

so i guess SO,you and me are in resonance,lol.
talk about coincidences.

[Pimander]

pim
  here are  some links  cause i don't know the name of the book you are looking for
with a name i might be better able to search

I've been specifically looking for the guy seeing the alien at a console.... I have tried several times over the years to find where that story came from to no avail.

It matters to me as I am interested investigating what connects between UFOs and other material apart from books written by spooks.

[robomont]

stars on the earth,maybe.goo search brought it up.

also we should be looking for burn victims at bethesda records from navy from that time period.

[space otter]

I've been specifically looking for the guy seeing the alien at a console.... I have tried several times over the years to find where that story came from to no avail.

well as 51 brought it up perhaps  we only need to wait for him to chime in on that

me- i'm playing around with the local connection and just chuckling at the way things turn out..
my search has gotten me pages to look thur
https://www.google.com/#q=Carl+Meredith+Allen.+new+kensington%2C+pa


just one with a pic of old carl.. looks a bit like tesla...
http://rr0.org/people/a/AllenCarlMeredith/

let's bombard 51 with pm's 

[space otter]

robo can enjoy this

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/esp_ciencia_timetravel08a.htm



Real Results of PX
Al Bielek, author of "The Philadelphia Experiment" Interviewed
by Jeanne Guthrie


Al Bielek in underground at Montauk Project

Guthrie (LE): Tell us about the history of the Philadelphia Experiment. You and your brother, Duncan, were naval officers aboard the ship, the Eldridge, engaged in an experiment about invisibility. Then, what happened?

Bielek: There were two tests, the first one on July 22nd, 1943. The hardware worked very well and they (the Navy) achieved invisibility from radar, sight and camera. The big problem was that the personnel stationed on the deck of the Eldridge were very badly hit by the high-powered, electromagnetic radiation. They were thoroughly disoriented. Their nervous systems dysfunctioned, and they became very ill.

LE: How do you make an object invisible?

Bielek: Displace it in time. Prevent a reflection of light or radar energy from it. If there is no reflected light and radar energy, you are not going to see it. The scientists were working with a concept of manipulating time to make an object invisible.

LE: What happened to you and to Duncan?

Bielek: We were inside the control room during the experiment. The radiation had no effect on those of us who were below deck because we were shielded by the steel.

LE: Even with the personnel problem the Navy scheduled a second test in less than a month, right?

Bielek: Yes. They (the Navy) said: "Okay. You have until the 12th of August. Do whatever you need to do to complete the experiment. This test must be finished by that date, or just forget it." It was a drop-dead date, which means finish by then or you just don't bother. They did say that they really didn't need optical invisibility, only radar. They still said that we had to meet that date. Everybody was very unhappy about it because they knew the health problem was very serious. No one knew how long it would take to solve this problem.

LE: How was the second test different from the first one?

Bielek: This one, unlike the first, was very successful in that we obtained radar invisibility after about seventy seconds. Unbeknownst to us in the control room, the ship vanished right out of the (Philadelphia) harbor. There was a nice big hole where the ship was in the water. Remember that for the second test they didn't want optical invisibility, only radar.

LE: They were not attempting to get optical invisibility, but it happened anyway?

Bielek: They only wanted radar invisibility. The ship was a haze... then "poof".... it was gone! Even the water line disappeared.

LE: Where did the ship go?

Bielek: Into hyper space.

LE: Will you define that for our readers?

Bielek: Mathematically speaking, it is a domain that is outside of our normal, three-dimensional reality. In fact, it is outside of the sixth-dimensional reality. There are three physical dimensions as we see them, and there are three time dimensions. So, the ship was outside our domain, including time. Hyper space is a nice mathematical term that says it is no where in terms of our reality. No one can accurately define where it is.

LE: Okay. The ship is in hyper space. Now what happens?

Bielek: The equipment started to go haywire after about 30 seconds. We (Bielek and his brother, Duncan) were seeing strange effects in the control room.

LE: Exactly what did you see?

Bielek: The banks of electron tubes----3000 of them in racks----started to glow in an unstable way. It was wavering, which was very unusual. Then we started getting some high voltage archovers, like many lightning bolts, even though there was no high voltage equipment in the room to cause such an effect. We tried to get someone on the radio, but we heard only static. We were on our own, so we decided to turn the equipment down. We went for the main power control handles, but they were frozen. At that time we decided to get out of the control room and to go up on deck.

LE: What did you see when you went on deck?

Bielek: A greenish haze. Sailors walking around. There was great confusion.

LE: What was happening to the other sailors?

Bielek: They were running around in circles like they were totally disoriented. They didn't know where they were or what to do.... acting almost to the point of being crazy, but not quite. Obviously, they were very disturbed or neurotic. Duncan and I looked at this and decided to jump overboard and swim to shore.

LE: Why didn't you stay at your post?

Bielek: Because we couldn't shut down the equipment. We went up on deck, saw what was happening, and jumped overboard. Only we never hit the water.

LE: You were floating in hyper space at that time?

Bielek: We were floating someplace. It felt like we were falling through a tunnel. We didn't know where we were or what was going on. We experienced what seemed like two minutes of this.... and I have to be totally subjective on the amount of time.... we would up in a military base, standing on our feet, at night, with a chain link fence to our back.

LE: What was the name of the military base?

Bielek: The Montauk base on Long Island, New York. Only we didn't know it at the time. The next thing we knew there was a helicopter beaming a searchlight into our faces. We did not know what a helicopter was; they were still in the experimental phases in 1943. Military police ran out, grabbed us, and took us to a building. We went down several floors in an elevator, underground. An elderly civilian walked toward us and said, "Gentlemen. I've been waiting for you. I'm Dr. Von Neumann."

LE: How did you feel at this point?

Bielek: We didn't believe him. We told him that he couldn't be John Von Neumann because he is a much younger man and we left him about an hour ago. He said, "Oh, yes. I am. Unfortunately, you are no longer in 1943. This is 1983. I am 40 years older. Welcome to Montauk. This is the Phoenix Project." We still didn't believe him.

LE: What did you believe?

Bielek: We thought the guy was nuts!

LE: Did you ever think that you were taken from the ship, brainwashed, and placed in this very unusual scenario?

Bielek: A lot of thoughts went through our heads at that time. We were confused and agitated. Then he (Von Neumann) took us for a "cook's tour" of the underground facility. And that is when we saw all kinds of computers, tape recorders, large screen displays, hard drives and similar equipment.

LE: Things that obviously did not exist in 1943.

Bielek: There was no such thing as even a tape recorder in the U.S. in 1943. We did not recognize any of this equipment. After the tour we watched color TV on a large screen. WE had only seen black and white (TV) up to that point. The commercials were particularly interesting. The one that sticks out in my mind was about flying to Hawaii for your next vacation in a 747 jet. There were no such jets in 1943!

LE: Seems like you were pretty emotional.

Bielek: We were getting quite upset and decided maybe the old man was Von Neumann and maybe we were in the future! We were then taken upstairs and outside where we were given a short tour of the base. But, we were not allowed to leave. They took us back to Von Neumann, who said, "Gentlemen, we have a problem. Your ship, the Eldridge, is still in hyperspace, and the bubble around it is growing. We can turnoff the equipment here at Montauk, but your ship's equipment is still running and feeding the hyperspace bubble. Unless it breaks down, there is enough fuel on board to run the generator for 30 days."

LE: What would happen if the hyperspace had continued to grow?

Bielek: He told us that it could grow large enough to engulf the entire planet.

LE: So, the Earth would be in hyperspace somewhere past the sixth dimension?

Bielek: Yes, out of our normal space. Who knows what would happen then. So, they had to do something to prevent it from growing. They decided to send us back to the ship so we could smash the equipment. They said that they had complete control over space and time at Montauk, and that they could send us anywhere and to any time.

LE: They had a time machine that you walked into and were transported elsewhere?

Bielek: Yes. They did. It was a time tunnel, actually more than a time machine. We didn't believe them, but they did send us back to the deck of the Eldridge with instructions to smash the equipment anyway that we could, in order to turn it off.

LE: One minute you were watching color TV. The next minute they are sending you and Duncan back to the ship deck full of crazy sailors. How did that make you feel?

Bielek: Not very good. We went back to the ship to smash the equipment, not really knowing what was going to happen.

LE: How did you destroy the machines?

Bielek: We got axes and started smashing tubes, tube banks, and smaller equipment. Eventually, the generator wound down.

LE: And you returned to third dimensional reality?

Bielek: Before the ship re-emerged in the harbor, however, we went out on deck and saw sailors buried in the steel deck and bulkhead. One of them was our younger brother.

LE: Why did people get stuck in the walls?

Bielek: Because of the process of re-materializing out of hyperspace into our reality. As the fields collapsed, the molecular structure of the sailor's bodies was also shifting. If they were moving around, and a lot of them were, they would be in a fluid state until they re-materialized. If they were floating around hear a wall when it re-materialized, they would be stuck in it.

LE: How did you and Duncan escape this tragedy?

Bielek: We didn't, totally. Our little brother Jim died that way (stuck in steel). And Duncan didn't stay (on board). He jumped overboard again, before the fields finally collapsed, and would up someplace in 1983 or around that time period.

LE: Did Duncan leave again because of what happened to your brother Jim?

Bielek: Yes. Jim died when he got stuck in a bulkhead. Duncan disappeared back into the future. I stayed there (on board ship), and eventually the fields re-materialized.

LE: You could have jumped overboard too.

Bielek: I could have. Duncan was expecting me to. I didn't for one reason. I saw Jim there, crying, with his head and shoulders out of the steel. So, I put my arms around him and he died that way.

LE: You lost both of your brothers and traveled forty years in time. That's enough to drive the average Joe on the street crazy.

Bielek: Yes, if it were the "average Joe on the street," he probably would have gone insane. I stayed sane, perhaps, because of my naval training. Maybe I was selected for the job by somebody who know more than I did. I often speculated, "Why me?"

LE: Why do you think?

Bielek: Maybe because of my father. He had been a career Navy man. He also was smuggling Jewish scientists out of Germany during WWII. One of them happen to be Herman C. Untermann, who later became director of the Montauk Project from 1977 to 1983.

LE: Where you were in 1983 did you find out who won the war (WWII) and bring back some military information?

Bielek: Oh, yes. They told us we had won the war, and were in a Cold War with Russia, and had been on the moon.

LE: Did they tell you anything that could change events?

Bielek: No. There is a problem with doing that, called the time-loop. Our being there physically (in the future) violated the flow of time and created time ripples. If we had brought back knowledge to change the history of the war or speed it up we could have caused a closed-loop time paradox, in which interfering with the past sufficiently could change the future. In doing so, the person in the future could have changed where he had been.

LE: What is the "present" when you travel in time?

Bielek: The "present" is where you are. Your reference is where you were born. A "time lock" occurs at the time of conception. Even if you move up and down the time stream, you still have the same reference point.

LE: Why do you think this happened to you and Duncan?

Bielek: We've never been able to answer that. It may have been planned, but not by us or anyone else on the ship. There were two others who jumped overboard, but they disintegrated.

LE: What differences did you sense about yourself when you went back to 1943?

Bielek: My mental outlook had drastically changed. Physically I did not feel any difference.

LE: Did you witness any alien intervention?

Bielek: I did not see any aliens in 1943. We found out since then that they (aliens) were there. I have a picture of Valiant Thor, a being from beneath the surface of Venus, taken from the Eldridge. I plan to show that photograph at the Asheville, North Carolina Expo. However, the aliens were heavily involved with Montauk. They were there---visible---mostly from 1973 to 1983, assisting with the time tunnels.

LE: How did the aliens benefit?

Bielek: The aliens were the ones who transmitted the drop-dead date of August 12, 1943 down the chain of command working on the Philadelphia Experiment. When the time travel occurred it caused a rift in space-time, but it did not destroy it. That hole allowed alien ships from other domains to come through in large numbers and sizes. The rift was created when Montauk locked with the Philadelphia Experiment. But, they (the government) couldn't have done so without the alien help, especially for the super hardware needed.

LE: So, that is why you conclude that aliens were involved with the project in 1943?

Bielek: Yes, to allow the two experiments to lock.

LE: Do you consider these aliens to be of a negative nature?

Bielek: Basically, yes.

LE: What proof do you have of the alien intervention?

Bielek: The government does have photos. Physically, I saw the aliens when I was in the Montauk underground.

LE: You are very vocal about what you know. Why do you think you are not interfered with?

Bielek: Perhaps because of my time travel with Duncan and the time-loop problem. They (the government) doesn't dare touch us until 2003.

LE: Why 2003?

Bielek: It is 20 years after the 1983 incident. Time equations show that, because of the Earth's biorhythms, it takes 20 years for the whole thing to stabilize down to the way it was before any of this happened. We don't have to worry about the past, just the future. If this time-hole isn't dampened by something in 2003 it could flare up again and get worse.

LE: Are you and Duncan the "dampening factor?"

Bielek: Yes.

LE: What happens if you die before 2003?

Bielek: Depending on how close it is to 2003, the effect could be a very unstabilizing and unsettling event for Earth.

LE: That's a big statement. If you go, so does the Earth?

Bielek: The government won't let us die.

LE: Assuming that you and Duncan are still alive on August 12, 2003, what could happen?

Bielek: The whole thing becomes stable and probably shuts down, unless someone builds hardware to extend it.

LE: Is there a price on your head after August 12, 2003?

Bielek: Theoretically, there could be a price on my head now because I have been so open in talking about these projects... the Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk Project. But, I have never been approached by a government agent and they have never threatened me. But they have threatened others.

LE: Why do you think that the government allows you to speak so openly?

Bielek: I really can't answer that. I have said enough that other people have been nailed for, but they never say "boo" to me.

LE: Why should people believe your incredible story?

Bielek: Do your own homework and research. There's a lot of documentation available.




Al Bielek on the PX
January 13, 1990 in Dallas, Texas.

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_0.htm#bielek



Life of Al Bielek



Al Bielek was born in 1927.  His first memories of being Al Bielek were when he was nine months old during a family Christmas party. The odd thing about his memory was that he fully understood the conversation that was taking place around the piano.

As Al went through grade school, he was know as the "walking encyclopedia".  Before graduating high school, he took an electronics test and was the only one to pass.  The Navy needed people like him during the war years and recruited him. Al later completed his education and took on various vocations in the field of electronics.  While contracting for various Military contractors, the people who worked with him began to reveal the truth about our involvement with Extra Terrestrials and PSI Ops (Psychic Operations) programs.

Strange things started to happen to Al soon afterwards.

While in Hawaii in 1956, he had a brief encounter with, who he believes now to be Mark Hammil - the actor in Star Wars. Soon after he was recruited into the Montauk Project. He would work his normal job in California, and take the underground subway to Montauk Long Island to carry out his duties there.

After the time tunnel was perfected, he would simply be teleported to the underground base and returned back to his apartment. During the 1970's, Al was the Program Director for the Psychics who manned the Montauk Chair.  Since the Montauk Boys were a key program at Montauk, Al had some influence with the Montauk Boys program. His duties were to handle the operations of the Mind Control program.  He was in regular contact with Duncan Cameron and Preston Nichols.  Stewart Swerdlow was one of the Montauk Boys programmers under Al Bielek.

In the 1980's when the time control programs were operational, Al participated in some of the time travel experiments.  Both he and Duncan traveled to Mars on several occasions.  He now remembers several other trips he took with teams to a research station in 100,000 BC, other planets to get canisters filled with Light and Dark Energy, and to the year 6037.

In January 1988, after seeing the movie "The Philadelphia Experiment", his memories started returning.  Al believes his involvement with Montauk ended with that revelation.  Over time and though meetings with Preston Nichols, Duncan Cameron, and others, many more memories returned.  Ironically, just after his memories returned, Dr. John Von Neumann tried to get in touch with him - a promise he made to Ed Cameron, should his memories ever return. Al made the decision to go public with the information about his involvement at Montauk and the Philadelphia experiment in the 1989.  He has been a prolific speaker on both radio talk shows and conferences.

He believes he has not been harmed or stopped because his time traveling experiences locked him into this timeline.  Somehow, by being here today, he, among others in the program, serve to balance the effects they produced from prior time traveling experiments.

Recorded interviews to Al Bielek:

Early years at Montauk Project





Later years at Montauk Project









Al Bielek Passed Away in Mexico on Oct. 10, 2011 at Age 84
by Ken Adachi
October 14, 2011
from Educate-Yourself Website

I received an e-mail today from Rich Grybos that Al Bielek, whose extraordinary memories surrounding the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment and the secret projects undertaken at Montauk, Long Island had kept millions of late night radio listeners enthralled for nearly two decades, had died last Monday, October 10, 2011 at 6:30 AM in Guadalajara, Mexico. Al was 84 years old and was buried at a local cemetery in Guadalajara.

Rich told me that Al's niece, Dee, expending a great deal of time and energy, had been taken care of Al in recent years after Al had become increasingly incapacitated due to a series of strokes. Rich told me that while the strokes that Al suffered prevented him from speaking clearly, Al's mind remained sharp and alert. He also said that Al continued to enjoy watching si-fi movies right up to the end.

Rich said that he had come to meet Al in 1970 through an introduction from the Scottish writer Ivan T Sanderson (1911-1973), who, Rich claimed, had great respect for Al Bielek.

Al Bielek's birth certificate is dated March 31, 1927, but whether he was "born" on that date or not depends on how much of Al's story you're willing to believe. Al has always maintained that his real identity is that of Edward Cameron, son of a career Naval officer; that he had participated in the Philadelphia Experiment of August 12, 1943; and that he had been regressed back in time to that of a 9 month old baby in California in December 1927, where he was raised as "Al Bielek" by Arthur E. and Albertina Bielek.

Al Bielek was a close friend of Phil Schneider while he was still alive and convinced Phil to go public with his story of government collusion with negative extraterrestrials, bent on installing a New World Order slave society. Phil Schneider paid the ultimate price for his patriotism and allegiance to the American people when he was murdered by covert operatives in January of 1996.

Al Bielek also gave many audio and video presentations over the years with Preston Nichols, a veteran of the Montauk Project and co-author of many books on Montauk with Peter Moon. Preston is currently living in upstate New York.

Al Bielek demonstrated an early aptitude for electronics while still in high school and later developed into quite an expert.

Quoting a portion of Rich's e-mail to me:
" As to his electronic abilities, I asked him once if he could look at a device sold by Mankind Research Unlimited (was CIA-connected I later discovered). Anyway Al proceeded to draw on the spot the entire schematic of the device! You may know that he was close friends with Bob Beck. He also was very heavily involved in ELF research during the time of the "Russian Woodpecker".
The movie, "The Philadelphia Experiment" first triggered his suppressed memories on his involvement..."

More needs to be said of the life and times of Al Bielek, but I'll wait to hear from more people who may have known Al and may wish to share their stories. Anyone wanting to send condolences to Al's family can send letters or e-mails to me and I will forward them to Rich Grybos, who will in turn, forward them to Al Bielek's niece, Dee.

At a later date, I may be able to talk to Dee directly and learn more details of Al's final years. I lost contact with Al somewhere around 2007 or 2008. He had moved from his Florida apartment to a nursing home and I didn't know how to contact him. I had many lengthy conversations with him over the phone from 2000 - 2006 and I took many notes.

He was an interesting man.


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[robomont]

not going for the time travel deal.thats where my physics says no.the ship didnt move so its fixed position didnt open another doorway.otherwise with the speed of everything in space,that ship would be in the abyss of space.even one water wave could have moved it millions of miles.but the invisibility i can go with.

[space otter]

just added more

it's all believe it or don't

[Pimander]

let's bombard 51 with pm's 

I already got a reply from A51 but I'm still looking for the specific quote.

[space otter]

the book is online
here's the link to a pdf on it.. you can download or read it
maybe someone can find the exact quote

The Philadelphia Experiment by William Moore and Charles Berlitz 107p
www.zamandayolculuk.com/pdf-2/phila_%20experiment_by_moore&berlitz107p.pdf
on the mysteries of the world, Charles Berlitz has been questioned more frequently on the Philadelphia Experiment than on any other subject. Despite a ...





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another pdf some might find interesting

philadelphia experiment - Signal Lake
www.signallake.com/innovation/PhiladelphiaExperiment.pdf
by V Bush - ?1967 - ?Related articles
Mar 28, 1997 - 27. CORRELATION WITH THE MOORE-BERLITZ BOOK .... book by William Moore and Charles Berlitz on the Philadelphia Experiment.


a notation i found interesting  in the list of links made me wonder why that name is so familiar

The Philadelphia Experiment: ... This system was invented by a Canadian, Charles F. Goodeve, when he ..

[space otter]

more on Al Bielek


http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/fantastic-philadelphia-experiment/

Al Bielek (Ed Cameron):  'It was alien technology.  We simply didn't have the theory but we had the technical expertise and capability to build the hardware to their specifications.  Our government has been working with aliens for years.'
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He (Von Neumann) taught us what Time is and how you can manipulate Time.  He taught us correct views on gravity.  Einstein completed his Unified-Field Theory in 1938.  He originally had it completed in 1929 and gave a copy to Lord Russell in England to review.  Lord Russell said 'the world is not ready for this'...perhaps the fact that you could use these equations for Time Travel.'

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See the Hollywood version; full movie available on YouTube that is shockingly close to true events where our fragile, electro-magnetic world was nearly torn apart!  Few understand how true the film is with characters of Von Neumann and Tesla if you look close.

In the wartime film made in 1984, David Herdeg and Jim Parker are stationed on a ship in an experiment to make it invisible to radar.  The experiment goes horribly wrong.  Herdeg and Parker are the only survivors [represented Ed and Duncan].  They both Time Travel, because of the experiment, and find themselves in the Nevada desert in the year 1984.


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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/esp_ciencia_timetravel08a.htm



also  you have to wonder about this little gem which makes bielek  95 not 84 when he passed
it's all suspect if it is in writing and on line  imo of course

The lecturer, Alfred D. Bielek, was born in August 1916 as Edward A. Cameron, son of Alexander D. Cameron, Sr. He attended several Universities, graduating with a Ph D. in Physics (1939). Enlisting in the Navy along with his brother,

[robomont]

i suspect it stops time for the folks effected by it.as our brains work at 60hz.so a higher frequency or lower frequency may freeze a human.since we are high in iron,this too would aid in freezing humans.wheni was under the effects of microwave,its seemed to act like methamphetimine as i use to do a little meth in the 80s but gave it up along time ago.it also made me not hungry.so i was severely losing weight.
as mw is ghz,i can see how if field was strong enough,it may accelerate thought processes but i really doubt i was thinking in ghz range.you guys on pegasus wouldnt be able to keep up,lol.

time is relative anyways but it cannot go backwards.the whole universe would have to go backwards to catch up.so aint gonna happen.
but as is mentioned in your post,a coil and a frequency and radiation.sounds like a giant ufo to me.
odds are the navy and the other branches,werent sharing tech but all were dabbling in it at same time.from different sources.

[A51Watcher]

Well actually I was thinking of Berlitz book 'The Bermuda Triangle' as the earliest book I read on the subject, but in going over it again. in the page and a half devoted to it I see no mention of the incident I recall.

pdf is available online and the report starts about page 149.

So I went back to Moore's book and no mention there either.

So... looks like I will have to dig back through my library and see which one has it, web pages say there are dozens of books on the subject so eventually it will turn up.

I'm betting the 'Commander X' version will have it.

Web pages on the subject seem to think there were 3 experiments, the first was a total dud, the 2nd was mildly successful, and the 3rd is when all hell broke loose.

I tend to shy away from the later stories that include Al Bielick, hip waders are a must for those.

But even the earlier ones are on pretty shaky ground evidence wise.