A challenge - Any takers, I wonder? ;)

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi petrus4,

You won't find the answer in other person except yourself...   

Bear with me a moment it has nothing at all to do with belief.



I can show you HOW to see a huge amount of UFO Activity

Note; UFO Unidentified Flying Object) for you, Unidentifiable at present anyway.


This can be done by anyone.

The Key is to look at the right time and in the right Location.

This requires an understanding of WHAT the Universe really is, and HOW it works.


Now as you are aware, when viewing a satellite at night, what lights it up is usually Sunlight
reflecting off it, when it is NOT in the Earth's Shadow... Yes?

Unless it is itself emitting a hell of a lot of Light itself.... Yes?

OK; Have you ever tried to see a car or a bus or even a house on a hill or Mountain in daylight,
say 300 km + from you?

Not easy to see is it ?   

Now try to see the same at night !

So the same applies to trying to see an areal object in the sky...

Look at that jet without a trail flying overhead at 30,000 feet (only 5.68 Miles above you)
very very small looking isn't it ?

Let alone trying to see it, if it were at 150 miles + high...

You understand now the Difficulty ?


Now the only way you can see a satellite is if Sunlight (a plentiful amount of Light
to say the least   . )  is reflecting of it.

This can only happen if the Satellite is out of the Earth's Shadow or seen dimly, if the Moon is in the sky.

So pick a clear night at look at the correct time when the Earth's shadow is in the "Zenith".

As you know the Earth's shadow extends beyond the orbit of the Moon, quite a long shadow...

Yes ?

If we look between 10:30 pm and 2:00 am, straight up into the "Zenith",
then this is the Sector the Shadow appears in, Depending on the day of the year.

So take the Angle of the Sun above the Horizon into account to view the correct location
of the peak of the shadow.

Now Summer time is the best time, because the Sun is at its highest above the Horizon
so the Earth's Shadow will be likewise.

OK; So now for anything to be seen in the shadow, has to be emitting a huge amount of light
and has to be either very close to you, or is very very large.. Yes?

(Refer to my statements re. on seeing an object 300 km + from you)

Now the next bit involves the workings where and HOW an aerial object,
not from the Earth, controlled by an Intelligence NOT of the Earth would approach
your personal experience.

(Sorry Too much to reveal and explain in this post.)

But anyway, it will approach your field of experience, within the boundaries of about 30°
around the "Zenith" (a total coverage either side of the "Zenith", about 60°) while entering through the Earth's Location.

So on a good clear Night, between 10:30 pm and 2:00 am, look up into the "Zenith"
for this period of time. (and if you are OLD like me,     it is easier if you lay on your back).

Be Patient !

Remember what I said, you are looking into "The Earth's shadow"
where there is little or NO Sunlight to reflect of anything, so if you see activity in this sector,
it can't be from any Satellite unless it is emitting a huge amount of Light.


This will then challenge you with another Question on the road to finding out the Truth.

What the Hell is ALL this activity, in this Sector of your vision at night...         

[biggles]

You cant put conditions on whether they contact you or appear before you, so therefore their real.

I have believed in them since I was a kid, dont know why just have.  Just like when I was 9 and saw the footage on tv when Lee Harvey Oswald came out with a black eye and said he never shot the President.  I believed him there and then.  Dont know why, just did.

I dont need to see one in person to believe but it would be nice as long as it wasnt 11 foot tall with scaly green skin, but then again that is another condition isnt it.

[Fruitbat]

One thing I have noticed here and on other forums.

People get very "Invested" in things like UFO's and "antigravity". which leads to thsoe falem wars etc, and worse, disappointment.

I've found it best to take everything as entertainment. I replaced my TV with the internet, because I know TV is just entertainment, even the news, whereas there is much more mystery to the internet. I've made it a fairly golden rule to never buy "information". I will buy "instruction" from time to time, particualrly when soemone offeres a satisfaction guarantee, but information, no.

From personal experience of the breed and the activity of air pilots, I'd say that that group has provided plenty of fairly unimpeachable evidence for UFO's over the years, and we will soon have our answer now that cameras have got so much better and more plentiful. But I also suspect that most UFO lore, evidence, etc is twaddle. Put about for a variety of base reasons.

But I wouldn't cut myself off from the free information, because it's really entertaining.  Have you read that "serpo" stuff? It's a lovely story. Well told and rivetting. Personally, I find it hard to believe taht in the whole military team no-one had a spiffy watch with the day/date function military people tend to refer to a timepiece a lot, and in a group of 12 I'd expect to see at least one decent watch. My experience of decent self winding watches would suggest that if the wearer survives the watch will too, and tell the corrrect time give or take a few minutes a month.

But I DO hope they take you up on the challenge. And if they do, as them about how the bloody drive sytems work on their saucers will you, for me? I'm still not able to work it out afetr years of working the problem... :c)

FB!

[biggles]

Petrus, see if you can get a hold of some good NVG and then take a look.

[robomont]

you can also see them on a cloudy night.if its bright and doesnt move.
most of the invisibilty tech only works up and down. not to the sides very well.thats why the closer you get to one,the less chance you have of seeing it.you can have extra fun by adding a friend.when you see one,call them.both of you take compass readings and triangulate on a map.then drive to those coordinates.it should be directly above you.if the weather is bad that means their invisibilty tech will barely work as its continually trying to adjust for atmospheric changes,wind ,temp,humidity.
they can sometimes be seen in thunderstorms at night.look high into the anvil and the lightning will light them up.
usually karma takes three days.be careful what you wish for.

[zorgon]

Petrus, see if you can get a hold of some good NVG and then take a look.

yeah those are REALLY good for spotting the CRITTERS but still dang expensive  Those Gen 3 ones are still over 2 grand

[zorgon]

they can sometimes be seen in thunderstorms at night.look high into the anvil and the lightning will light them up.

yes the CRITTERS are easily spotted in and around thunderstorms NASA knows that two  Just watch STS 80 footage. They are more visible during thunderstorms as they are 'feeding'  or 'charging up' as it were so are brighter and spotable.

No tech at work there but I know you won't believe me

usually karma takes three days.be careful what you wish for.

There is a possibility that CRITTERS are aware of us enough that they can sense some thought patterns and actually 'appear by request'. Many have claimed to be able to call them. But so far no one has captured one   Not sure if its possible... maybe with a special containment field

[Pimander]

The "critters" are a field like entity most likely.

They are visible as plasma clouds when they organise a large amount of certain energies which cause air to ionise.  I think they are most easily visible under UV when they travel beyond the atmosphere.

Also, all life is not flesh and blood, therefore all technology isn't nuts and bolts.  So how do you know whether some of these "critters" aren't technology?  It is foolish to try to understand everything in human terms.

[Littleenki]

There is a possibility that CRITTERS are aware of us enough that they can sense some thought patterns and actually 'appear by request'. Many have claimed to be able to call them. But so far no one has captured one   Not sure if its possible... maybe with a special containment field

Hmmm, like an Ark perhaps?

Le

[petrus4]

Have you read that "serpo" stuff? It's a lovely story. Well told and rivetting.

The one about the human/Grey exchange program?  Yeah I did; found it on exopolitics.org once if memory serves.  It was a good story.  I don't have anything against Bill Ryan or whoever else producing fiction; I just wish that if they were going to do so, they'd tell us that fiction is what it is.

But I DO hope they take you up on the challenge.

I don't think they're going to.  Although I have had much higher blood pressure over the last 24 hours or so, for some unaccountable reason.  It could just be because my own anxiety over it, but I don't feel anxious.

[Pimander]

The one about the human/Grey exchange program?  Yeah I did; found it on exopolitics.org once if memory serves.  It was a good story.  I don't have anything against Bill Ryan or whoever else producing fiction; I just wish that if they were going to do so, they'd tell us that fiction is what it is.

Bill Ryan did not know he was being hoaxed.  One person who was associated with him at that time was Rick Doty.  Google him and you'll get the picture.


I'd say your announcement to this site would make covert contact attempts pretty unlikely.

[petrus4]

Bill Ryan did not know he was being hoaxed.  One person who was associated with him at that time was Rick Doty.  Google him and you'll get the picture.

I'd say your announcement to this site would make covert contact attempts pretty unlikely.

Agreed.  To the extent that I'm willing to even speculatively claim positive contact in the past, the consistent implication has been, "Sorry, but you're far too immature, and as a result, we're nowhere near interested.  Grow up, and we'll get back to you."

I suspect that my attitude here, will probably simply be viewed as yet more evidence of said immaturity.

[petrus4]

Interestingly enough, with relation to this topic, I found this on YouTube a few minutes ago:-



Veronica has a tendency to be uncannily synchronistic for me, and I think she's probably right on the money this time, as well.

[robomont]

zorgon,i hear you talk of critters all the time ,what got you down that rabbit hole?
you are the only person ive ever heard suggest that.

[robomont]

i think the pros are using infrared not nightvision.
the cameras are like fifty grand but supposedly they do rent them out.