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Giant Foot Print 200 Million Yrs Old - South Africa

Started by A51Watcher, October 25, 2012, 01:14:47 AM

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The Matrix Traveller

Quotethey were formed shortly after life suddenly became more complex and diverse "" the so-called Cambrian explosion "" and are of immense scientific interest.

So I wonder what brought about this Sudden and Complex change in species on Earth ?

The Matrix Traveller

Just for the record.

We had in our past History in NZ a "Giant Eagle" with a wingspan of more than 9 feet.

And we have the bones to prove it in NZ.

The Matrix Traveller

#17
Also recorded in "The Book of E'NOCH"... Chapter 6 Verse 6 onward; Quote;

Quote06.
And they were in all two hundred;
who descended in the days of Jared on the summit
of Mount Hermon,

and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn
and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.

07.
And these are the names of their leaders:
Semiazaz, their leader, Arakiba, Rameel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal,
Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomael, Sariel.

08.
These are their chiefs of tens.

Chapter 7.

01.
And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives,
and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them
and defile themselves with them,

and they taught them charms and enchantments,
and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants.

02.
And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants
whose height was Three Thousand Ells

03.
Who consumed all the acquisitions of men.
And when men could no longer sustain them,

04.
The giants turned against them and devoured mankind.

Sgt.Rocknroll

Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

ArMaP

#19
Quote from: A51Watcher on November 02, 2012, 01:05:58 AM
Statements that this is scientifically impossible seem to be ignoring our current fossil record and how those creatures get embedded without getting a hotfoot now don't they?
No, because fossils are found in sedimentary rocks, rocks that are formed by the deposition of small particles (of clay in the case of shale, for example) that cover the object being fossilized, similar to what happened in Pompeii with the ashes from Vesuvio.

The video's description (I haven't seen the video) says that the rock is granite, and granite is a igneous rock that is made mostly of quartz, mica, and feldspar that resulted from the crystallization of cooling magma. The size of the crystals is an indication of how fast the magma cooled down. That's why it's not possible to have fossils in granite.

Edit: I think fossils sometimes appear also in marble (at least some shells are relatively common in some marbles), although marble is a metamorphic rock, meaning that it was originally a sedimentary rock that was somewhat transformed by heat, pressure or both.

PS: my explanation may have some errors in it, as I am not a geologist (although I like geology) and it's been a long time since I learned this. :)

A51Watcher


Shasta56

My first thought regarding the footprint is that it looked like whatever made it, slipped in mud.  It looks very similar to prints I've seen, some of them mine, of a foot that's been set down too quickly on a less than stable surface.  We won't discuss what my friend and I did to the newly poured neighborhood sidewalk when we were nine years old.

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

Somamech

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 02, 2012, 04:17:13 AM
Damn giants, damn them all to helllllllllll! ;D

LOL

If a certain rouge Monk is right they did it to themselves mate :D

zorgon


Caver78

#24
ArMap was entirely correct, an posted what I remembered about ''granite fossils'' they are virtually impossible.

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?8445-Giant-Foot-Print-200-Million-Yrs-Old-South-Africa

Volcanoclastic sediments (such as ashfalls) are in the borderland between
igneous and sedimentary rocks. Yes, they are derived directly from a melt,
and by that definition are igneous. On the other hand, they are deposited
in Earth surface conditions, temperatures, and pressures, and hence are also
sedimentary. Such is life... er, rock.

As for fossils in granite: extraordinarily unlikely, at least as geologists
use the term "granite" (there is an industrial definition of the term, which
is any hard rock (where almost every soft rock is "marble"), but that is
beside the point). Granites cool from molten masses which were entirely
underneath the surface of the Earth; they form under temperature conditions
which would obliterate organic tissue, and are molten for up to millions of
years (extreme cases: more generally ten-to-hundreds of thousands). Hence
they do not form in environments where living things are present.

(One possibility, though, is that the native rock into which the granitic
magma intruded was a sedimentary rock possessing fossils. A section of the
native rock could break off and be suspended in the magma as a xenolith.
That way you could have a fossil in a sedimentary rock in a granite).

Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
Vertebrate Paleontologist
Department of Geology Director, Earth, Life & Time Program
University of Maryland College Park Scholars
College Park, MD 20742

http://dml.cmnh.org/2002Apr/msg00216.html
Original source

and than there is this...it quantifies the uplift series in the rock sheets making it pretty improbable the track was left in situ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaapvaal_craton

The 3.1 Ga Mpuluzi batholith in the Barberton granite–gneiss terrane is made up of granite sheets. The structurally higher parts are underlain by an anastomosing network of steeply dipping, variably deformed dikes and sheets. According to a study done by Westraat et al. (2005): "Multiple intrusive relationships and geochronological evidence suggests that granite sheeting and the assembly of the pluton occurred over a period of 3–13 million years. The spatial and temporal relationship between deformation and magma emplacement reflects episodes of incremental dilation related to deformation along the bounding shear zones and granite sheeting. The transition to the mainly subhorizontal granite sheets at higher structural levels of the tabular Mpuluzi batholith indicates the intrusion of the granites during subhorizontal regional shortening, where the reorientation of the minimum normal stress to vertical attitudes at the shallow levels of emplacement allowed for vertical dilation and subhorizontal emplacement of the granite sheets."

http://jgs.geoscienceworld.org/content/162/2/373.short

Michael Tellinger is apparently a good musician, but he is NOT a geologist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Tellinger

Background: Musician and Author

Michael Tellinger graduated from Wits University in 1983 with a B.Pharm degree. While studying he spent most of his time moving within entertainment circles. He started his career on stage in Nick Taylor's musical "Christian" at His Majesty's theatre in 1980. Following this he played the part of "Joseph" at the opening of the State Theatre and toured with the hit show for two years. At this time he launched his solo career and released his first single called "Hazel" in 1981, which was nominated for a SARIE award. Shortly after this Michael teamed up with Russell Stirling and formed the duo "Stirling & Tellinger". The two played together for four years and had music hits with "Call Me" and "What's a Nice Girl Like You, Doing In a Place Like This". Their videos took the market by storm and laid the foundation for many of the SA music videos of the early 80's. The "Call Me" video was voted among the top two most popular videos at MIDEM in Cannes 1983.[citation needed]

...and as to him as a questionable source of scientific discoveries
http://01universe.blogspot.com/2012/05/south-african-crank-of-week-michael.html

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on November 02, 2012, 01:53:37 PM
PS: my explanation may have some errors in it, as I am not a geologist (although I like geology) and it's been a long time since I learned this. :)

It's pretty good... for a non geologist :D


But why let reality spoil a good story :P

A51Watcher

#26
Quote from: ArMaP on November 02, 2012, 01:53:37 PM

Thanks Armap, that's more along the lines of what I was hoping for.

Quote from: Caver78 on November 02, 2012, 09:36:21 PM

Thanks Caver, sorry to hear you were battening the hatches for the storm, I apologize, but glad you made it through ok.

And thanks for the link, looks like the bogazeety clan's ranks continue to grow.  :(