SO... you need MONEY? - Discussion Thread

[Amaterasu]

True enough but today its .55 cents a pound and your neighbors will save em and bag en for you No need to dig through trash.   But if you have nothing, even $26.00 is good.  How many times have I heard Amy say she has less than a dollar to her name?

You do what you have to, when you need to. Cans are at the lower end of the options... BUT

Many times I have taken that extra cash from scrap metal and used that cash to buy gold and silver castings for making jewelry.  Then selling that and you get the picture... turning trash into gold, all without bothering the government

Poor Amy is living in a one room cabin out in the middle of nowhere, with no vehicle - and no trash nearby to go through...  And no way to bring anything collected to an outlet that will pay for anything collected.  [sigh]

But online funding...  Working on that one.

[undo11]

Poor Amy is living in a one room cabin out in the middle of nowhere, with no vehicle - and no trash nearby to go through...  And no way to bring anything collected to an outlet that will pay for anything collected.  [sigh]

But online funding...  Working on that one.

hi there!
i hope you get lots of funding.  i recall reading the story of a former communist, here in the usa. his parents were prominent in socialist circles in nyc. he was personally involved in demonstrations, bombings, and all the trappings that went along with being a good marxist in the capitalist west. 

he said, i realized that i was using capitalist money to live well, eat well, and at the same time, spitting in the faces of the people who paid to pave the roads i drove on to my protests.  i realized i was an absolute hypocrite.

i thought "no, you weren't a hypocrite. you were a guy who saw a problem that needed to be fixed (capitalism works, but this ain't capitalism. capitalism has no strings attached.  everyone has the same opportunities. there's no, "you are more worthy than he is, because you're female and he's male." or "you are more worthy than he is, because he's white and your ___________ (fill in any nationality or genetic heritage besides caucasian)."   and so you took the most direct route offered by our learned professors -- mass slavery (communism).  "

don't let anyone make you feel bad about what you're doing.  you aren't being a hypocrite.  you're making due in order to get to what works, whatever that is.  personally, i think social programs should be handled at the community level, and the federal gov should just butt out.  i mean, look what all that centraliized (communist) power has done for us today.  we're staring down the barrel of a race war of epic proportions, and the gov ain't on our side (in fact, they ain't on anyone's side).

[Ellirium113]

Not sure if this applies to anywhere else but Canada but this looks very promising to those that are struggling...

[petrus4]

petrus

perhaps, considering our last discussion, you would've had the wisdom to use a different example.

If you are going to make a generalised assumption that Islamic scripture, in its' entirety, has absolutely no worth, then that is not my problem.  If someone made the decision to consider the Bible worthless on the basis of bad behaviour by individual Christians, you would likely consider that absurd.  As a result, you are engaging in a double standard.

instead,  you deliberately picked a sensitive subject such as it is, and then yelled at me for responding (as you knew i would).

No, I did neither of those things.  I had previously read that usury is commanded against in the texts of several religions.  The Qu'ran was the only one in which I could find specific mention of it.  I genuinely do consider your reaction excessively emotive and irrational, and I was not expecting it.   

To re-iterate; the assumption that Islamic scripture as a whole is worthless, on the basis of imperialistic and violent behaviour by contemporary Muslims, is rationally indefensible.  If individual Muslims actually paid more attention to their theology, they would not believe that they have a divine imperative to act as the scourge of the rest of humanity, as they currently do. 

Islam is not completely irredeemable.  I used to think it was myself, but then I actually looked into the matter.  The Qu'ran does contain some exhortations to violent and negative behaviour, yes; but the Hadiths at least contain admonishments to extremely positive and compassionate behaviour as well.  The Charter of Medina also offers one of the earliest examples I've seen of encouragement for religious pluralism, believe it or not.

The problem is ethnic, not theological.  At the risk of sounding racist, the Arabs and the Jews have largely always been barbaric and violent ethnic groups, comparitively speaking; which is the entire reason why Islamic theology contains the degree of legalism and emphasis on social control that it does.  You will remember that Pat Condell mentioned the rapists in question, as generally originating either from Nigeria or the Middle East.  Although Hinduism does have some problematic areas, (such as tantrism) its' theology has a greater emphasis on love and less on punishment than either Judaism or Islam, and this was because the Indians had a correspondingly greater capacity for behaving themselves.

don't sqaure off on me.  i'm entirely too old and grumpy to be bossed about by some young whipper snapper

Age in and of itself, carries no authority with me whatsoever.  Demonstrated intelligence and/or wisdom does.  Those two things are not automatically one and the same.  You can be as old as you like; if your behaviour is foolish, then you are going to get called on it.  The fact, by itself, that you are probably going to die sooner than I am, is entirely irrelevant; especially considering that there are no guarantees in that regard.

america is a debt driven economy. if we have no access to new ways to create debt, we would die enmasse from starvation and riots.  not my idea of the way to solve the problem.

The way to solve the problem is to move away from Capitalism; although that is not going to happen, for as long as a majority continue to believe that Capitalism is something we need more of, rather than less.

I agree, it needs to be solved, but claiming it's righteously outlawed (jesus didn't like it either), while quoting from a book like koran, is an insult to my intelligence.

That is your opinion, and one which I consider erroneous.  As a result, provided that I do not attack you personally, I do not hold myself responsible, for the effect that my countering it, may have on your emotions.

[undo11]

this isn't a capitalist country. there's no capitalism to move away from.   it use to be a capitalist country but it isn't anymore and hasn't been for like 100 years.  we were taken over by social marxists a long time ago, and i think their brothers-in-arms (social fascists) have been right along for the ride. this is not, i repeat, not, a capitalist country. central banks are not the hallmark of capitalism but of communism.  powerful federal governments are the hallmark of communism. 
the whole "capitalism is doing this" spiel, is just smoke and mirrors. 

i think i can prove that hitler and stalin were actually in cahoots with each other.  the whole thing was planned.  and what was their big social experiment?  depopulation of some in favor of others.

what did we get told in the west? that population was out of control and we should limit the size of our families for the sake of the planet.  to punctuate it,  they made quality of life laws that were so strictly absurd, you didn't dare have large families else you might inadvertently break some law like the wearing of seat belts (johnny took his seat belt off so he could poke timmy in the rib, and you didn't catch it cause victoria was slapping pam's dolly and pam was screaming about.  cop pulls you over, ticket cause johnny doesn't have his seat belt on and you have too many kids in your car.  so you buy a van and now you have less food to feed the kids. 

and the environmentalist down the street gripes at you when you encounter her in the corner store, for having a huge gas guzzling vehicle and too many kids.).  but it's okay if everyone else does it.  (muslims having huge families with multiple wives).  just not whitey. if whitey does it, the crap hits the fan, people melt down and you become the scum of the earth. 

so we whities in the west learned to curtail our baby making, in interest of the environment, our pocket books (cause you need lots and lots of money to properly raise children in western societies) and in the best interest of our kids.   while mao was telling the chinese people to make as many new babies as possible, we were told to cease and desist.   and our law makers, make sure minorities and immigrant populations have much laxer requirements in this regard ..(they'll just scream racism anyway, and blow up the local synagogue or public school to prove their point). 

[ArMaP]

It looks like any thread turns out to be about religion and/or politics. 

Back on topic, for those on this side of the Atlantic (Europe), the European Union has several projects per year to finance some kind of activity (commercial, educational, cultural, etc.), so it's a good thing to get a look at that for those in EU countries.


From what I have see, it's a shame there isn't a simple way of selling food from Portugal to the US, as the prices are much lower here. I just looked to see the price of 1/2 kg of spaghetti and it costs 0.39 Euros (something like 0.49 Dollars), so if the box undo11 was speaking about is around 1/2 kg the price is half of the one she mentioned. One thing that we also use a lot here in Portugal and that's cheap is canned tuna (.74 Euros for a 120 gr can). I had some for lunch, along with some pasta (I don't know what's the name in English, see the photo here). Cheap and good.

[undo11]

It looks like any thread turns out to be about religion and/or politics. 

Back on topic, for those on this side of the Atlantic (Europe), the European Union has several projects per year to finance some kind of activity (commercial, educational, cultural, etc.), so it's a good thing to get a look at that for those in EU countries.


From what I have see, it's a shame there isn't a simple way of selling food from Portugal to the US, as the prices are much lower here. I just looked to see the price of 1/2 kg of spaghetti and it costs 0.39 Euros (something like 0.49 Dollars), so if the box undo11 was speaking about is around 1/2 kg the price is half of the one she mentioned. One thing that we also use a lot here in Portugal and that's cheap is canned tuna (.74 Euros for a 120 gr can). I had some for lunch, along with some pasta (I don't know what's the name in English, see the photo here). Cheap and good.

the noodles, look like macaroni

[Amaterasu]

Ok.  Y'all can donate:

http://www.gofundme.com/1jan8o

[grin]

[undo11]

Ok.  Y'all can donate:

http://www.gofundme.com/1jan8o

[grin]

awww.  that's cool, ama.  i like your smile and you have kind but wise eyes. 
i will talk at hubby about donating. can't guarantee it, cause he's only got one credit card and he uses it mostly for car gasoline, but i think i can call in a favor or two.  i'll make him an offer he can't refuse, (said in a "godfather" voice).  hehe

[Amaterasu]

Awww.  That's so kind of You, Beth!

[Primus58]

How to Dry Pomegranates in a Food Dehydrator
http://www.ehow.com/how_7704988_dry-pomegranates-food-dehydrator.html

Awesome thread Zorgon, minus the religious crap. Pomegranate in a food dehydrator, bet that's good!

I saved a lot of money by making my place more energy efficient, sealing drafts, vacuuming the coils of my refrigerator, and using solar screens. This knocked at least $40-$50 off my monthly bill! I also sealed the HVAC vents in one room I hardly use, and ensure the system always has a fresh filter. I eat more meals at home since eating out is so expensive. One thing that helped me was clearing clutter, it seems the older I get he less I want to own... so much stuff I never use... gone! I appreciate this thread, when it comes to getting money, I'm trying to follow my passions. Giving up $60K a year to NOT be in a cubicle is a trade off I'm willing to endure, it means I am absolutely out of debt. Debt = slavery in my mind, especially that incurred by whimsical spending, junk accumulation.
L8er, Woody

[ArMaP]

Ok.  Y'all can donate:

http://www.gofundme.com/1jan8o

[grin]

Too bad I don't have money. 

[zorgon]

Too bad I don't have money. 

Well that was the point of this thread To show people how to GET money

Wasn't necessarily meant to get it from each other

[zorgon]

Awesome thread Zorgon, minus the religious crap.

That be why i locked the main thread to keep it ON FOCUS, the Number 2 reason we don't get money

Law of Attraction: "Think and Grow Rich"  Worked for Carnegie, Trump and several others I could name

[zorgon]

I saved a lot of money by making my place more energy efficient, sealing drafts, vacuuming the coils of my refrigerator, and using solar screens. This knocked at least $40-$50 off my monthly bill! I also sealed the HVAC vents in one room I hardly use, and ensure the system always has a fresh filter.

Yup good one to add, one that I need to be diligent about. I will put together some tips on that

I eat more meals at home since eating out is so expensive.

Not here in Vegas eatting out is cheap. Land of the endless buffets with 50% off for locals

One thing that helped me was clearing clutter, it seems the older I get he less I want to own... so much stuff I never use... gone!

Clutter from us old timers is now "Vintage" or "Antique" and has value out there

I appreciate this thread, when it comes to getting money, I'm trying to follow my passions. Giving up $60K a year to NOT be in a cubicle is a trade off I'm willing to endure, it means I am absolutely out of debt. Debt = slavery in my mind, especially that incurred by whimsical spending, junk accumulation.

"A Penny Saved is a Penny Earned"  people were wise once upon a time   But that penny is now worth two as scrap