Lord Gilbert's lost his marbles

[sky otter]

figures..

[Littleenki]

Awww, but what about all the ferrets living in the caves Zorgon?

As for wiping the area clean, theyve been talking about that for three thousand years, and the fanatics still procreate like rabbits..awww furry little rabbits.

So whats the valid argument for bombing them all, besides bomb them all?

Free oil?

[Pimander]

So whats the valid argument for bombing them all, besides bomb them all?

Free oil?

I don't think there is any oil on the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.  There are lots of tribes sympathetic to the Taliban along with their adorable trinkets like Sharia law, oppression of women and suicide bombers.  There are more people there who have nothing to do with the conflict but I guess they don't matter.   

[rdunk]

Errr hellooooo  can you please tell me WHICH country the USA is at war with?

Thanks 

Z, my comment was meant to address thought relative to our going to or being at war, and would apply to wherever we decide to commit to warfare - country/people.

If we are going to fight, it should be at the highest level of aggression, until the enemy surrenders, with no holds (weaponry) barred!

Yes, we just pussy-foot around and allow thousands of our people be killed, mostly because of our inability to suck-it-up, and do what is necessary to get the job done - ie, play politics with OPL (other people's lives)!   

[Littleenki]

So the UK dropping a neutron bomb there wouldnt disrupt oil supplies?

Hmmm, wed all be riding bicycles within a week. 

As for the dogmas of the people there, sure theyre nuts but there some widely accepted religions here and there who clearly are just as nuts.

Lord Gilbert could get a room with them Im sure! I dont know which side of the locked door Id want to be on though....

Rdunk, are you ready to implement that all out attack strategy? Its certainly better than a pull out or cease fire, eh?

Not so sure what Jesus would think?

[Pimander]

Yes, we just pussy-foot around and allow thousands of our people be killed, mostly because of our inability to suck-it-up, and do what is necessary to get the job done - ie, play politics with OPL (other people's lives)!   

Who is this we?

Do you not believe that all humans are created equal - as Jesus did?  That the lives of any person who dies is worth the same as another?  Evidently not.

The difference between dropping a neutron bomb and "thousands of our people getting killed" is obvious.  Most of "our people" that have died in recent wars chose to fight.  Dropping a neutron bomb on a whole region is just ever so slightly different and involves killing innocent people including children.

Where are your morals man?

P.S.  If you have lost your marbles too, then I will happily give you some of mine.... They might get lost in the post though as they seem to be in short supply.

[micjer]

Having an all out bombing to end the war is like finding a cure for cancer!

Where's the profit in that?


They want us sick and they want the wars to continue to sell more.

[rdunk]

Israeli propaganda.

Israel knows exactly where Israel stands! And where they stand (militarily) is so far beyond general knowledge, they make the rest over there appear to be backwards and in the dark ages, which most of those countries are anyway. Of course, Israel is somewhat forced to walk a "tightrope" politically, but they will do what ever they must do to preserve Israel.

And they won't do it with "propaganda", because they don't have too! They will do it with all of the advanced tools they have available. Some of their "tools" come from the US, but some of their tools are self-made. Whatever their tools, they are well able and well prepared to use them.

A "nuclear" Iran would not now exist if we, the U.S., had not withheld our "OK to Go", for the Israeli intentions. They would have already handled it! But no! And Iran is still going nuclear, and Iran is still giving arms to every entity that will use them to fight Israel and the U. S. .

[rdunk]

"Who is this we?"

Pi, when I said we, I an referring to the people of the United States, and relative to the military of the United States.

Yes, war is hell, and often people are "hellish", and must be dealt with. You mentioned Jesus - yes Biblical scripture makes it clear that we are to love one another, but............God's people often are found in a position of having to fight for what was/is rightfully theirs. Turning the other cheek is one thing. Having someone threaten the life and limb of children, family, friends, and country is entirely another thing.

The radical Islamists, and maybe all Islamists, are a complete threat to all other humanity, by what they say, and by what they openly demonstrate - terrorist bombings and wars.

Radical Islamists make it very clear, either you become an Islamist, or you die.

And this is what I say about that:


                                           

[Pimander]

Every person who lives in Pakistan and Afghanistan is a radical Islamist who wants to kill you.  By the same token, every person in the USA does not condone such acts of evil as bombing innocent people, thankfully.

Sometimes people make me sick.  This is one of those times. 

[sky otter]

I an referring to the people of the United States

NO YOU ARE NOT


here we go.. a bible thumper hawk...


yeah war is a true way to get peace..isn't it..
i rarely make nasty comments
but it figures you're from texas
big hat no cattle changes in your case to big mouth no brains

this is sooo hard ... not to scream and shout and try to change your thinking
your thinking baffles me

how can you possiblily think that you are any better than what you are trying to remove

this statement only proves YOU ARE THEM,,just from a different area
The radical Islamists, and maybe all Islamists, are a complete threat to all other humanity, by what they say, and by what they openly demonstrate - terrorist bombings and wars.

Radical Islamists make it very clear, either you become an Islamist, or you die.


the ignore button is a god send..see i do believe

[The Seeker]

In the first place, the military action in Afghanistan is not about terrorism, or oil; it was about the Taliban destroying all the opium production...

as for the radical Islamists, which is roughly 1-3% of the total number of Muslims, yes, they are the root cause of many problems; but you do not treat a snake bite on your foot by blowing your head off...


seeker

[robomont]

i personally like very few people,despise all organized religion,am not loyal to any country and would not have a problem if the whole planet got nuked.
no more war,in twenty years the wildlife would make a comeback ,plenty of resources for the people who are left.
i would easily turn the key and push the button.
robomont for prez in 2016.
i guarantee a brighter future.

[Pimander]

The last thing I say before I go to bed to read some Jacques Vallee is this.  To condone killing innocent people in a war is exactly the same as to condone terrorism.  There is no difference.

To condone thousands of innocent civilians being killed to win a war is the same as to condone bombing the world trade centre to win.  It is sick and VERY wrong.  It is immoral.

I just hope Jesus comes and takes these people from Earth on December 21st, 2012.  Perhaps that was the merciful act that is due to happen.  I doubt it somehow but there is always hope.

[sky otter]

r dunk
i came back to apologize for getting personal and rude..which was totaally uncalled for
i apologize for calling names and making unkind remarks

but how could you not see that what you propose is the exact same thing that you condemn