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What is all this about, regarding Japan, the Tsunami, Fukushima and UFOs ?

Started by The Matrix Traveller, December 22, 2012, 08:44:35 PM

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sky otter


hi Matrix
were you asking moi?

hummmmmmmmmm

well
there are all kinds of things - beings? / elementals? / critters ?
that aren't conscientiously recognized by the human brain
but are seen in a quick peripheral glance or an obscured blur
and since the brain doesn't seem to recognize them it's kinda hard to categorize (name) them

i know something is t/here....
i know something has interferred with the nuclear stuff....but that may just  be a side affect of what is really happening
i don't know what is really happening ..just what some have tried to explain

sooooo, i guess for me
any of those labels  is  fine...

lol...sorry to be unhelpful on the labeling and thus the conjecture of who's doing what
but i do agree that the whole nuclear thing is unneccessay and beyond dangerous to all

::)

A51Watcher


UFO's and Atomic sites have had a continuing connection since 1947.


C2C AM has an upcoming show related to this topic -


Montana UFOs/ Open Lines
Date:   01-04-13
Host:   George Noory
Guests:   Joan Bird, Open Lines

In the first half, researcher of unexplained phenomena Joan Bird will discuss recently declassified government documents, historic reports, and first-hand interviews pertaining to numerous sightings of UFOs around Montana's Minuteman missile silos, as well as sightings of Bigfoot and other anomalous creatures. Followed by Open Lines.

Website(s):
montanaufos.com
Book(s):
Montana UFOs and Extraterrestrials




The Matrix Traveller

Thank you for that Info "Watcher", and hope others will also come forward
and give their thoughts as well.

There appears to be many different things going on with regards to this Phenomena.

Perhaps we could categorise some under different headings, giving the various types
of Information, both, Disinformation and Genuine Instances.

Alien, Critters, human interests, involving Disinformation and many other other types.

There also appears to many types of Phenomena, involving Different classes of Aerial activity.

Can we sort these out and Categorise these as well ?

Thanks once again "Watcher"... and look forward to more of your thoughts on this.

sky otter


UFO's and Atomic sites have had a continuing connection since 1947.



well they are ufo's because they are not identified..unidentified flying objects...

not every ufo is the same as the next ufo..

my point was
we know something is there..
and that is all we really know

not what they are or who
or if they are the same in different areas
or what they are really doing
or
if the interference is their main objective
or a side affect of something else

maybe they are the firetrucks of the universe and
nuclear enercy is the siren to call them in
maybe they are a side creation of certain nuclear things and drain the energy in their birth


my point was all we know is that something is there and
currently any one name is as good as any other at this point

to make any comprehensive comments you need knowledge
and quite truthfully all we have is hearsay
unless
someone here has actually seen them or their effect in person (besides you A51)

so sorry to be a pain
but i am really getting tired of nothing but conjecture on everything
instead of being on a fact finding mission
the only thing brought to the table is opinion..yours - mine - and others
sigh

::)
i am agreeing with matrix.. in my own w(?)itchy way...sigh



The Matrix Traveller

#34
Quotemy point was all we know is that something is there and
currently any one name is as good as any other at this point

to make any comprehensive comments you need knowledge
and quite truthfully all we have is hearsay
unless
someone here has actually seen them or their effect in person (besides you A51)

Yes there is.... LOL  Myself...   :o

But how many realise this ?

Even though I have made claim to this, many others disbelieve, right me off as a liar, or just another nutter ?


I am NOT wanting anyone to believe or disbelieve me, as this is totally irrelevant, but rather to consider or think about some of what I am writing !

Many only seek to undermine, disprove or want proof, in the form of photos, but frankly photos is NOT proof, but only acts as a decoy, where others would rather argue over such photos, without moving forward !


So this is why I started my forums starting at the beginning before any Universe or any other World existed, apart from a Non Dimensional world having Awareness which is referred to as LIFE.

They have nothing at all to do with any religion, even though I do make reference to religious writings from time to time, but this is merely to demonstrate that the human species, has made reference in history to some of what I am talking about, even if not understood today.

So I am NOT about religion or to get religious in any way, shape or form !

But sadly such information has been made into a religion, rather than others trying to understand what some of these ancients were trying to show, in their OWN way and Time, which is sadly NOT understood at all today.   :(


I know the Dictionary definition of the word, LIFE refers to the "flesh", but this is the very ROOT of the whole problem, in that the "flesh" (The Human Species) is at WAR against LIFE and tries to Covet LIFE in Vain.

We also go to WAR and kill others because this is the tantrum the flesh throws, when the flesh can't get its own way.

It is the reason we can't Recognise LIFE.

If we stop our WAR against LIFE we may come to recognise WHAT LIFE really is.

If we Stop this WAR against LIFE then we come to discover LIFE is just another word for "AWARENESS" and/or "SELF AWARENESS".
This is to Find or discover LIFE.

So OK there is LIFE and its "Experience" it is having.

These 2 are completely different. So WHY do people always ask me the Question WHERE do these, NOT of the Earth come From ?

Well it's because most can't understand the difference between the LIFE and the "flesh".


If LIFE is NOT in the experience or this Universe yet exists it then has to be OUTSIDE what we believe this Universe  to be !   :o
And this is where the "ROOT" of the problem Lays.


You may well ask what the Hell has all this to do with "Aliens", "Critters" and other "Areal Phenomena".

Well when you come to realise (Find) the above regarding the difference between LIFE and the "flesh", you will then realise that Nothing at all, is alive in your Experience i.e. this Universe, apart from your "REAL SELF" which is a droplet or Partition of LIFE and NOT the "Flesh".

So everything then takes on a completely different understanding, of both our selves and the World we Experience.


We don't need to get all religious or Superstitious or into any other human nonsense.

Just realise the Difference between the LIFE and the "flesh" or experience !

So the origin of the LIVING is LIFE and NOT from some planet or other in a Universe.

If you can accept this then you have overcome the ROOT of the Problem with regard to understanding ALL the so far, unidentified "Aerial Phenomena" you see or hear about.


I myself have experienced 1st hand Alien species, some of their "Transport", as well as many of their other "Technologies".

Most of the "Technologies" involve the Processing System which all is made Manifest through.


1st of all the so called Universe does NOT exist, as you are led to believe today, by those appearing to be more educated.

In fact your visual experience only involves your Field of Vision and Not an entire Universe at the same time.

When you come to realise this then you can understand there is much less involved than you have ever thought.

What you in fact experience, in your field of Vision comes through a Program or "Processing System" and that You are NOT in a Universe, as you are led to believe.

Having said this, the "Program" is constructed in such a way as to make it feel as though you are INSIDE a Dimensional Universe.

So what each of us experience is far more personal on an individual level than what is understood at present.


Let's see if we can take the next step in understanding this "Aerial Phenomena" then, especially its Connection to....

a.      Nuclear facilities.
and
b.      Natural disasters.

In the case of Fukushema and Japan as a whole, it would appear that both these two were involved or been reported.


Sadly we can only go by what was reported in the news media and any private videos.

This doesn't make our job any easier in fact it is made more difficult.


If we can't get anything of help from the photos etc. then we can only relate to the fact that these may have been witnessed, or on the "Opposite note", have been invented.

So we are left with the Dates, Times and Locations of these aerial Phenomena.

This can then be split IF possible into 2 Primary Groups of Data !

a.     Authentic
or
b.     Disinformation.

The Latter is a huge area on its own involving Fantasy but it is the former which interests me.

There can be found a pattern involving Dates, Times and Locations.

So let's look at a bit more of this.


Regarding "Dates", this is self explanatory...

Regarding "Time", we could do some research regarding what time this aerial Phenomena appears with regard to a disaster, the duration involved while visual, and how long they were present after the disaster.

The other Data relates to how many days was the "Aerial Phenomena" seen, before the disaster, and each day they were witnessed.

Now if this data involving all Disasters is compared, even the disasters such "Aerial Phenomena" was NOT witnessed (just as Important) we might get a clearer picture, of the behaviour of this "Areal Phenomena".

Especially if each of the "Aerial Phenomena" are compared.

We can separate this data into two areas...

a.      Common features.
and
b.      Different features.

So let's see what we can all find...

sky otter


So what each of us experience is far more personal on an individual level than what is understood at present.

a solid yes to that... my experience has left me wondering if it was real..was what i saw
a brain/ other experience or a physical my eyes beheld it experience?
and then does it really matter.

my questions go to to why i needed to see it and what/how it has changed me..to have i just changed myself

and then i think of whenever two or more are touching emotionally
are we as a group creating these sightings as a way to convince ourselves that
there is a solution to such a problem as nuclear energy

so do we compare notes on what we saw or how what we think we saw affects us?
8)

The Matrix Traveller

#36
Quote from: sky otter on December 30, 2012, 11:19:05 PM
So what each of us experience is far more personal on an individual level than what is understood at present.

a solid yes to that... my experience has left me wondering if it was real..was what i saw
a brain/ other experience or a physical my eyes beheld it experience?
and then does it really matter.

my questions go to to why i needed to see it and what/how it has changed me..to have i just changed myself

and then i think of whenever two or more are touching emotionally
are we as a group creating these sightings as a way to convince ourselves that
there is a solution to such a problem as nuclear energy

so do we compare notes on what we saw or how what we think we saw affects us?
8)

Ah Sky, you are now getting my point. Very good...

Quoteso do we compare notes on what we saw or how what we think we saw affects us?

YES... To understand more about our selves.

As you have pointed out; Perhaps it involves our selves Individually and may have Nothing at all to do with what most think today !

For example just because the Hubble telescope can take photos of what appears to be a universe, does Not imply that what we experience is Not a "Program" ("Story") involving a Collective back ground, in the form of a "Program" much like a "1st person" Video Game on a network...
Quite the opposite in fact...  LOL.

Some Scientists are Now, slowly becoming aware of this.


At the End of the Day, it is the Change taking Place in the nature or Character of the "Real Self" i.e. LIFE, and NOT the flesh which is the most Important Function of all.

The flesh is but temporary, but "The Real You" i.e. LIFE is "Eternal" and Can't die, because it is a "Partition" of LIFE and Not Death.!

robomont

i have to admit,i too am coming around to believing in the life matrix thing.

on the subject of phenomena showing itself before disaster,theres a book called the gods of eden.it basically says aliens have been behind most of mankinds hardships and death.
if its to push us along a certain evolutionary path,then its seems to be successful.
the downfall being it impresses the value of life on us.
if life  of the flesh is not of much value then they really screwed up on that one because alot of tears have been shead over it.

i sometimes think cartman from southpark said it best,god feeds on the tears of the innocent.
he must be one fatass bastard.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

The Matrix Traveller

#38
Quoteif life  of the flesh is not of much value then they really screwed up on that one because alot of tears have been shead over it.

But flesh is very important as it is the Experience.

But what most believe the world to be about isn't at all.

LIFE is the Most Important as LIFE Can't Die, unlike the Flesh.

The whole experience of the human species has a Function or Purpose, but it isn't anything at all what most desire or expect.

What is greater ? The "Person" or the "Garment" ?

The same applies to LIFE...

What is Greater ?  LIFE or the "Garment" i.e. the flesh ?

It is the "Question" we ask, which is Important because it Invokes the Answer.


Ask the Right "Questions" and we will discover The Right "Answers".

But if we ask the Wrong "Questions" then we discover the Wrong "Answers" !

A "Challenge" can also represent, a "Question" !

So the Challenge is made......

robomont
Quotei sometimes think cartman from southpark said it best,god feeds on the tears of the innocent.
he must be one fatass bastard.

Some may be offended by this, but LIFE sees it as a "Question".

So you will certainly discover the Right "Answer".

It is ONLY the Flesh which Condemns both LIFE and the Flesh
( "The Real You" is NOT the Flesh though... LOL )
but the Right "Answers" lay in LIFE i.e. "The Real Self" and NOT the Flesh.

When I look to the Flesh I fail every time, but IF I turn to LIFE I find TRUTH.
Even if I don't sometimes like it.   :(

But the "Story" is all about wakening up to the Difference between the Flesh
i.e. the experience and LIFE.

It is Extreme in this experience for a reason so we will choose Correctly, LIFE in the End !

But we should NOT Love the "Tree" and Hate its "Fruit" !

Nor Love the "Fruit" and Hate the "Tree".

But Rather Love the "Tree" and Love its "Fruit" !

Even if its "Fruit" is Bitter at times.

You can't have the "Sweetness" without the "Bitter" (Its Opposite)

If there was only the "Sweetness" or the "Bitter" you would have Nothing to compare it with..

So you would Not know you had "tasted" anything.

robomont

tmt,i agree with everything you said in that last post.

after years of being a religious zealot ,straitie
i decided to live my life ,rules be damned.
if something brings me pleasure then i go for all i want.
amazingly i found that i can do anything i wanted as long as i didnt brag.keeping ones mouth shut goes a long way in this "too many laws" world.
my only rule is my conscience must be clear.dads hide your daughters,lol

since i made that personal choice,im as happy as can be.the world really is my oyster and i choose to pig out.

where it leads me i dont yet know but the trip has been a blast so far.
what holds most people back is all the lies they were taught as children.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

The Matrix Traveller

Quotewhere it leads me i dont yet know but the trip has been a blast so far.

Perhaps you TRUST LIFE...

Quotewhat holds most people back is all the lies they were taught as children.

Now ain't that the Truth !

I wish you all the very, very best for the New Year robomont.

The Matrix Traveller

Has anyone got information regarding "Aerial Phenomena" around Nuclear Facilities
or around natural disasters, regarding descriptions, locations, dates, and times etc. ?

It would be interesting to see if a common theme can be discovered.