US firefighters shot dead at blaze in Webster, New York

[zorgon]

The problem may be on those other crimes where things happened like in the movies, live is usually more bizarre than fiction.

Just need to read all those old Detective magazines and  watch TV shows like "Crininal Minds" and others... Then you get the picture

Here in the US the censors don't allow them to show a naked boobie on TV or a normal healhy sex act between consenting adults, but it is perfectly fine to show all those rape torture and maim police shows and horror flicks of people cutting up women with chainsaws

Talk about a sick society

And then they get all up in arms when real life imitates the silver screen

Well DUH!!!!!!

[petrus4]

Another question.

Let's say, hypothetically, that the official explanation of these things are correct.  There's no false flag at all; it's just random crazies, going off.

My question in that case is, why are there so many of them, within such a relatively small timeframe?  Yes there have been others, but there has been an unusually high concentration of shootings within the last 1-2 years.

Is it economic factors?  Is it a case where, as Gerald Cellente says, that when people have nothing left to lose, the last thing they lose is their minds?

What is it?  What is causing this?

[spacemaverick]

It really boils down to this.  The guy that did the shooting had already killed someone before.  He didn't get the rifle from a gunstore.  I don't blame this one on movies, TV shows or video games for this incident.  He has a sick criminal mind.  Having worked corrections and law enforcement for 20 years there are many criminals that just don't care for people.  Whats theirs is theirs and whats your is theirs.  They will kill you to get it.  There are those that have just killed for the hell of it.  Even had one tell me that.  Ever looked into the eyes of a cold blooded killer?  I have and there is nothing in those eyes.  There is an emptiness behind those eyes.  You sense pure evil.  They can be nice on the outside and then all of a sudden reverse themselves and suddenly become or appear pure evil.  We were in a housing unit one night (in the jail) and this inmate that we had no problems with suddenly stabs his cellmate in the eye and pushed that pencil into his brain.  The cellmate was killed and found minutes later when a security check was performed.  I was a supervisor (one of many) that appeared on scene.  2 other officers and I took the killer into custody, placed him in a three point restraint setup and had three officers guarding him.  All he wanted was some breakfast and cared not about the guy he just killed.  He had that blank look in his eyes.  Having dealt with these evil people for 20 years is probably worth a few college degrees.  Everybody and his brother say rehab, some say we should take away the guns or restrict them.NO, NO, NO,  want me to fight them with my bare hands.  I don't think so.  New York has its own gun laws but they didn't help.  Police response time can take minutes and you can be killed in just seconds.  I want that chance to defend myself.  Well I have rambled on enough.  I could tell some stories and with the experience I can just about profile most people in person by just watching their actions, their movements of the body, listening to them and if I know their background can pretty well determine if they will be a career criminal.  Twenty years was enough education.  Between the Sandyhook shootings and this one, it is just sad what our society has become.

[spacemaverick]

Another question.

Let's say, hypothetically, that the official explanation of these things are correct.  There's no false flag at all; it's just random crazies, going off.

My question in that case is, why are there so many of them, within such a relatively small timeframe?  Yes there have been others, but there has been an unusually high concentration of shootings within the last 1-2 years.

Is it economic factors?  Is it a case where, as Gerald Cellente says, that when people have nothing left to lose, the last thing they lose is their minds?

What is it?  What is causing this?

In my opinion, politicians never let a tragedy go to waste.  Shooting happen all the time, people are killed with bats (had it happen to some people in one incident in Volusia County Florida).  When something large happens and it placed on the news, then the media jumps on it, politicians see their chance to further their agenda; and off we go....it wasn't really news until something big happened.  We had a threat right here in Brevard County Florida from a parent that said he was going to do the same thing and most of our schools in the county went into lockdown.  The person was mad about something (forget what it was now..but anythin can set a person off.  There are just some people that do not value life.

[Amaterasu]

Pimander...if you can, try and disengage mentally from the "pro-guns/anti-guns," issue, for a moment.  Do you remember how the phrase "Sandy Hook," was seen on a map during The Dark Knight Rises?

Not only that but the word "Aurora" was in the film, too.  What are the odds that two very similar incidents would take place with references like that, and one of which was at the showing of that very film?

If there was no conspiracy...1 in 99,999,999,999,999,999?  Maybe?  If there was a conspiracy... About 1 to 1, eh?

[zorgon]

But I'm sure We are not being deceived for any control purposes, eh?

WHAT control?   

[Pimander]

Spacemaverick,

Guns are widely available, including assault rifles all over the states.  New York's gun laws are irrelevant.

Do you remember how the phrase "Sandy Hook," was seen on a map during The Dark Knight Rises?

Do you have a clip, I don't remember?

[ArMaP]

Let's say, hypothetically, that the official explanation of these things are correct.  There's no false flag at all; it's just random crazies, going off.

Or maybe not that random, some time ago everybody was talking about the "zombies", for example, so it's possible that there's an underlying reason for all this that hasn't been identified, at least as far as the common people know.

Is it economic factors?  Is it a case where, as Gerald Cellente says, that when people have nothing left to lose, the last thing they lose is their minds?

It's also possible, as all those things add to the stress people are subjected to and we never know how they will react when they reach the limit.

[ArMaP]

All he wanted was some breakfast and cared not about the guy he just killed.  He had that blank look in his eyes.

That's typical of psychopaths, they think only about themselves.

I saw once a documentary where they showed one guy that was jailed for several years, and he became as close to being a friend as possible of other inmate. When the last one of the two left the jail they kept on meeting each other every day, until one day the psychopath killed the other one because of something he said or did (I don't remember, only that it was something completely innocuous for a normal person).
When they asked him if he was sorry for killing his "friend" he said that he wasn't and that he felt nothing about it, but he missed the talks he had with him.

[ArMaP]

Not only that but the word "Aurora" was in the film, too.  What are the odds that two very similar incidents would take place with references like that, and one of which was at the showing of that very film?

What do you think of that? Is it a coincidence or was it done on purpose?

If it was done on purpose, what was the reason?

[Amaterasu]

WHAT control?   

Like manipulation to VOLUNTARILY disarming Ourselves.

[Amaterasu]

What do you think of that? Is it a coincidence or was it done on purpose?

If it was done on purpose, what was the reason?

Given the odds of all happening coincidentally, I conclude it is on purpose.  Why?  because They revel in shoing Us Their work and plans, knowing the bulk of Us will not make the connection because We're "too stupid."  We are not, but We are also not fed valid data. GIGO.

[biggles]

WHAT control?   

Get real zorg.  There's bloody control everywhere.

[petrus4]

Do you have a clip, I don't remember?

[Pimander]

Sandyhook is a place.  What do you really think the name appearing on a map ,means?

Aurora is the name of a secret Aerospace development program.  Is there a connection?