Enki potentially coming back

[Edward]

edward

you mean like this?


yeah i've seen the movie several times and the tv shows as well. i have a thread on ats on the subject that's over 300 pages long.

LOL  I was just about to post this  haha.    NICE!!!!!!!   


Edward

[08rubicon]

stargates are real,317 pages.
undo;
  Revelation 2.7  'to him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree
of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God'. So,eden must
be in heaven and not on this earth. I have read Beth Vegh' e-books,
stargates are real, and most of Z.Sitchin including the lost book of
enki..As I said earlier, Adam and Eve were thrown out of eden to the
earth, as was satan cast out of heaven on to the earth. Sometimes I
think I know nothing..

[Cosmic4life]

Enki coming back ??

I will believe it when I see it .. I'm fairly confident it won't happen.

Enki and Enlil ... Seth and Osiris ... Cain and Able  are the names of ancient humans set in a morality tale .. the names may change but the song remains the same.

As for Jesus/Tammuz/Mithra dying for three days from Dec 23 to Dec 26  clearly this is a story about the Sun.

Issa was the son of Mary, a Judean Princess he was also the son of Emperor Tiberius who had a proclivity for humping the Royal families of his subject Kingdoms .. this made him the heir to the Roman throne over the other Roman families .. neither the Romans nor the Pharisee's or the Sadducee's were happy to have a Nazarene overlord so sought to neutralize him .. as to whether he was a Prophet or a Healer he did have the benefit of a Royal education and so had knowledge above that of the average pleb.
A simple soul who shunned the excess of the elite made him a popular character .. deified long after his passing from this mortal coil.

All these stories were lumped together to form a Universal Religion compatible with most cultures .. embracing parts from all cultures.

The Serpent God comes from Gnosticism ... They would call these self proclaimed Gods the Archon's .. the Serpent Reptile Type and the Embryonic Grey Type .. Only in Gnosticism these Gods are not flesh and blood but Ethereal beings who interact with our minds.

Carlos Castaneda wrote some great books about the teachings of the Sorcerer Don Juan .. Gnosticism in all but name .. " When the others came...they did not come in ships...they invaded our minds" ... something to think about.

C..

[undo11]

isa was the son of cleopatra and julius caesar.  when julius was killed, cleo sent isa off on the silk route, which eventually took him to israel to stay with relatives.  cleo was descendant of king david via the ptolemy line.  i have a theory that she faked her own death and met him back in israel and that she is mary.  with her husband deceased she was free to remarry. 

when it says virgin birth it doesn't mean the woman has never had sex, it means the birth is the result of some kind of artificial insemination.

he was the rightful and legal heir of every throne of import on the planet at the time.  thru julius, he was the heir of the roman empire. thru cleo, he was the heir of the egyptian empire, thru king david, he was the heir of the throne of israel. he had so many targets painted on him, it's a wonder he wasnt dead before he was born.

by all accounts, isa was EXACTLY the messiah they were hoping for, but the priests of israel were from a different egyptian school of learning. presumably the temple of set, since jesus identified them as the synagogue of satan.  jesus on the other hand, would've been from the school that supported the resurrection of the dead and life and healing, which would've been osiris and isis etc, backwards to the creator.  if the creator was enki, which the sumerian texts state, and if the pyramid wars are true,  he had dealings with enlil-ites before, who became the temple of set guys later.

theoretically, of course.

[Cosmic4life]

Julius and Cleopatra were born 100 yrs before Issa ... Julius died in 45 BC.

It was Tiberius ..

When it says a Virgin birth it means without the father being present or known .. in a pleasant politically correct manner.

The rest we agree .. 

C..

[undo11]

Julius and Cleopatra were born 100 yrs before Issa ... Julius died in 45 BC.

It was Tiberius ..

When it says a Virgin birth it means without the father being present or known .. in a pleasant politically correct manner.

The rest we agree .. 

C..

cleo's son, who was given the roman name caesarian, had the egyptian name esu.  she had 2 other children after him, with mark antony.  they ended up being 2 of his disciples. 

the best explanation i have ever heard, on how it all comes together, is in the video, the ring of power. however, the video is 4 hours long.  the versions that have it split into 10-minute chunks, originally had the chunk with the explanation for jesus' identity in it, but some movie company decided to force them to take it down because it has footage in it, from a movie about jesus.

  i just went to get it for you to watch, and it's been axed. the rest are there tho but none of them talk about jesus' identity, and how it all works. all they do is briefly mention that he was cleo's son and show pics of his relatives and identify mary as mary of bythinia.

she has some points completely wrong but has enough parts right that it's worth the looksee.  i will check if it's been bleeped out of the 3 hour version as well.

here ya go. 

it's located at 1:33:33

[Cosmic4life]

Actually Cleopatra had Caesarion who was killed by Augustus Octavian (Step Father of Tiberius) ... then Cleopatra Selene II and   Alexander Helios the twins .. then  Ptolemy Philadelphus.

And as I have already mentioned Julius Caesar/Cleopatra/Mark Anthony are all dead 60-70 yrs before the time of Issa.

Pontius Pilate was the prefect of  Judaea from AD 26 -36 in the time of Tiberius.

C..

[undo11]

Actually Cleopatra had Caesarion who was killed by Augustus Octavian (Step Father of Tiberius) ... then Cleopatra Selene II and   Alexander Helios the twins .. then  Ptolemy Philadelphus.

And as I have already mentioned Julius Caesar/Cleopatra/Mark Anthony are all dead 60-70 yrs before the time of Issa.

Pontius Pilate was the prefect of  Judaea from AD 26 -36 in the time of Tiberius.

C..

did you listen to the whole thing?  it's not issa. it's esu in egyptian. the calendar is not correct. 

[Cosmic4life]

I did not listen to any of it ..

The history of the Roman Republic/Roman Empire is fully documented.

The Calender is absolutely correct.

Pontius Pilate was the prefect of Judaea from AD 26-36 .... any son of Cleopatra would be 70 yrs old at the crucifixion.

It is quite clear that Augustus Octavian had Caesarion killed early in his life.

The true killers of Issa were the Piso and Claudia families who saw themselves as the rightful heirs to Tiberius the adopted son of Augustus Octavian.

The possibility that Caesarion was called Esu in Egypt means nothing .. to connect Esu to Issa/Jesus requires a leap of the imagination/ a Time machine and an SG1 Sarcophagus.

C..

[robomont]

i kinda lean towards undo from what ive read.i think i read a book called the gods of eden and i dont have a problem with the name change as sounds in language change fast.most native american tribes have tales of jesus in the new world from what ive read.

now roman paperwork is a great foundation for researching history so that i will give you.

look at the word cherokee.that could easily be cherub key.
supposedly via book of mormon.lol.there are some lost tribes of israel and native americans could have blended w them.i read somewhere that the secrets may have split.the egyptians may have held onto the darkside by the time jesus comes around but the lightside moved on to some other sect.maybe east.or south to africa along w the ark.moses may have had the ark built but he stole it from the egyptions and sold it to the masses as god gave it to him.it would have powered the snake lightbulbs.there is no doubt at all.the ark for a fact is a giant electricle capacitor.it was designed and built as such.kinda got off track there.

[undo11]

"No documentation has been discovered about his death; because of his young age, it is thought he died of strangulation."
http://www.executedtoday.com/2009/08/27/30-bce-caesarion-little-caesar/

esu is a title.  not his real name.  in greek it was iesu and iesous.   the video says it means "son of isis".   check out some of the egyptian names  caesarion had and their meanings. 


    Iwapanetjer entynehem
    Setepenptah
    Irmaatenre
    Sekhemankhamun

These are usually translated as:

    "Heir of the God who saves"
    "Chosen of Ptah"
    "Carrying out the rule of Ra" or "Sun of Righteousness"
    "Living Image of Amun"[6]
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also there's "king of kings" (see the donations of alexandria).

the etymology of amun, from egypt to mesopotamia is amen, amun, anu, an, the sumerian god of the heavens. (if you want the full etymology trace, let me know)

amen appears in the bible countless times, at the end of every prayer.

the bible is an egyptian-mesopotamian book

jesus was a pharaoh and even identifies himself as one, by the title, alpha and omega.  alpha and omega were names given to the crook and flail of pharaoh, otherwise known as the rod and staff of jehovah.  it also identified him as the first pharaoh and the last pharaoh of egypt.  caesarion-esu, was the last pharaoh of egypt, literally.



if the calendar is not wrong, then somebody is lying big time. 

he was the jews ticket to world domination (the messiah and fulfillment of the covenant), as he was heir to the two biggest empires on the planet, and the throne of israel. in short, they tossed the baby out with the bathwater.  as a result, they have spent the last 2000 years trying to get, by any means necessary, what they could've had fair and square, 2000 years ago.

[andolin]

I agree with C4L, and I prefer not to listen to  a 4 hour audio just to hear about ESU/ESSU...It's all semantics.  The Romans did a very good job of co-opting local religious practices of their conquered nations. There is historical documentation and a timeline that fits...The Romans called ESU ZEUS, and it was not an honorific. He was king in a pantheon of Gods...King of Kings so to say. All of the other speculation is not new.....It can be found here:

http://www.freedomfighter.co/needtoknow.htm

Andy

[undo11]

i went to the trouble of isolating out the exact time in the video where you could watch the information and posted it right above the video so you could skip right to the spot.   i'm disappointed that you won't at least attempt to watch it since i went to the trouble to post it and find the information.  however, i can't force people to have an actual conversation with me.  if it makes you feel better just ignoring the information, that's fine but realize you're arguing against thin air cause you don't know what i'm referring to.

that link you posted does cover some of the information from the video, but there's a great deal missing too.

i suspect also, that if the pyramid wars info is correct, that the entire osiris thing that started at abydos, was a continuation of a long chain of body hopping that started way before narmer, predated the black sea flood and may go all the way back to enki.  that's my current theory, anyway.

[Cosmic4life]

lmao I'm not going to argue the point any further than this ..

All Pharaohs had many titles.

Cleopatra herself was given the title Queen of Kings by Marc-Anthony.

Augustus called himself Divi Filius .. the Son of God.

Indeed Caesarion was the last Pharaoh.

Yes he was therefore Alpha and Omega as were all Pharaohs .. and he may have been called Esu ... after Isis.

But ... he would have been in his 70's at the crucifixion .. as the crucifixion of Issa took place between AD26 - AD36 .. the time when Pontius Pilate was prefect of Judaea.

But .. Caesarion was killed as a teenager upon the orders of Augustus Octavian in August 23 30 BC.

Yes .. much of the New Testament Bible is Egyptian .. Osiris is the Father and the Holy Ghost ... Isis is the Virgin Mother .. Horus is the Son who was called Kryst.. from which we get Christ and Christianity...Set was the homosexual psychopath brother of Osiris ... a follower of the Aten (The Solar Disc) who became Satan.

But as I have said repeatedly ... the Bible as we know it .. written from AD50 onwards is a mash-up of all Religions of the Middle-East designed to unify all peoples under one God.

The figure in the Bible stories .. the hero if you like is Horus Kryst ... the rest is BS Mathew,Mark, Luke etc etc all made-up BS ... 12 Disciples is the Pantheon ... to bring the Pagans into Christianity.

Sorry Undo but I think you're chasing shadows and making connections that don't exist .. you must see the Bible for what it is now and for what it was before .. it is not an Historical Document .. It is a Morality tale from 10500 BC.

The New Testament is based on the Egyptian story with additions from Paganism (The Pantheon) in the West and Mithras in the East.

The Old Testament has greater historical significance and is based on Sumerian/Mesopotamian history.

Your assertion that Caesarion was Jesus is based only on a Title (Esu) and that the Bible has the word Amen .. your timeline is out by at least 70 yrs .. you cannot connect Caesarion to the time of Pontius Pilate and Barabbas.

The real Jesus is Horus Kryst circa 10500 BC.

The real Issa is the Illegitimate son of Tiberius and Mary of the line of David .. a Nazarene who opposed the Pharisee's and the Sadducee's who had become fully Romanized .. a Nazarene Non-Roman who challenged the houses of Piso and Claudia and Octavia for the Title of Holy Roman Emperor (Who by the way were murdering each-other left right and center).

The Documented history of the Roman Republic/Roman Empire is one of Lust, Envy, Greed, Murder and Deception ... and False Gods.

There is no God-Man coming back to save Mankind from itself ... there never was.

There is no Space-Man or Space-God.

There are no Stargates.

Sitchin was a Fantasist who translated cuneiform to suit his own belief system ... he belongs in the same category as Erich Von Daniken.

Nice story ... Total BS.

C..

[undo11]

no star gates ?  what does ezekiel 1 mean when it says  a hole opened up in the sky and out of it comes metal flying wheels ?