David Icke arrives at Bilderberg 2013

[Pimander]

Icke has to be a stooge for the Bildebergers or someone who likes conspiracy theorists to look like idiots.  Icke did some good work then started spouting BS.  His insistence on rambling on about reptiles without proof just discredits his own and by association the work of others. 

[stealthyaroura]

Icke has to be a stooge for the Bildebergers or someone who likes conspiracy theorists to look like idiots.  Icke did some good work then started spouting BS.  His insistence on rambling on about reptiles without proof just discredits his own and by association the work of others.

Ho no doubt! And I imagine his "tours" and guest appearances make a tidy profit too.
I'm not a fan of these ego driven celebrity types. Nick Cook is another example.

No new evidence, same OLD case's re visited spouting ITS GOT TO BE ALIENS!!

Icke and his "reptiles" and forever pointing out the problems but doing nothing
about any of them. Fear mongering but like Z says sensation sells.
Even if it's BS

[Sinny]

Strange indeed. Some of his idea's are slightly ridiculous - with no proof.

However, he did ruin his own career in the 90's.

[stealthyaroura]

Strange indeed. Some of his idea's are slightly ridiculous - with no proof.

However, he did ruin his own career in the 90's.

He said he had "a call from god" or words similar to that effect.
So he heard voices in his head. See a pattern emerging here sinny?
Aye, it's a rum do.

[Elvis Hendrix]

Yes he maybe batshyte crazy , but I'd rather have punters listening to him than the "News".
He's talking about the stuff we are interested in and he is talking to a lot of people. Who else in this game pulls those kind numbers on stage.
No one.
And who cares if he's making money?
If he would stick the reptile stuff in the bin.

Happy Halloween.

Elvis

[zorgon]

He said he had "a call from god" or words similar to that effect.
So he heard voices in his head. See a pattern emerging here sinny?

Has anyone else noticed that ALL the old whistle blowers follow this same path? They start out with a great story... then end up total Loons... look at Greer

Voice of God?  Ah see? NOW we have the truth....

Aye, it's a rum do.

RUM!!!!! ARRRRR Now yer talkin!!!

[Pimander]

We could play this game for hours.

[sky otter]

        if you are hearing voices.


how do you know who they are ?  ?

[Pimander]

Dunno.  Is it that if they say they are from another star system then they are telling the truth so they are who they say?  Or if they say they are God then they must be?

Or do we need to think for ourselves?

[Sinny]

He said he had "a call from god" or words similar to that effect.
So he heard voices in his head. See a pattern emerging here sinny?
Aye, it's a rum do.

No, I'm not, Icke hasn't said anything about utilising radio frequencies.

If fact I was reading: Extraterrestrials and the American Zeitgeist: Alien Contact Tales Since the 1950s , earlier on today. A book which tackles the alien hypothesis with a slightly skeptical yet objective manner. The key point ascertained in this circumstance was that even this author found the Ekker material to be quite 'different'.

This material has/is literally 'stumping' everyone.

[stealthyaroura]

No, I'm not, Icke hasn't said anything about utilising radio frequencies.

If fact I was reading: Extraterrestrials and the American Zeitgeist: Alien Contact Tales Since the 1950s , earlier on today. A book which tackles the alien hypothesis with a slightly skeptical yet objective manner. The key point ascertained in this circumstance was that even this author found the Ekker material to be quite 'different'.

This material has/is literally 'stumping' everyone.

OK then, to be clear I was asking you not telling you, I am trying to find out more about these "voices" and there origins but it's very complex and there is so much material to go through I can't see there being a simple answer! More like many.

The Ekker and beter material really is fascinating.its a huge body of work and I'm trying to catch up by sticking to the journals so i don't get confused with people adding there own bits in here and there.

as you say with Dr Beter's revelations never really being challenged does make ya think, truth may be stranger than fiction!
With Icke,it's just a matter of personal taste after all it's the information that counts not The person selling it I wouldn't pay to see him.

But I see what you mean Elvis, why should I care what they are making? Especially when your average network news anchor sprouting "the news" is getting paid huge sums too.tit for tat.

That book "extraterrestrials and the American zeitgeist" does look like a good read.
I do like books and I dare say I could buy one of Icke's at some point if I liked it.

[Sinny]

OK then, to be clear I was asking you not telling you, I am trying to find out more about these "voices" and there origins but it's very complex and there is so much material to go through I can't see there being a simple answer! More like many.

Sorry Stealthy, I thought I was replying to Pimander - the skeptic. I should have gone to spec savers 

The Ekker and beter material really is fascinating.its a huge body of work and I'm trying to catch up by sticking to the journals so i don't get confused with people adding there own bits in here and there.

Is a very large undertaking indeed, have you started from the beginning? I tried, for the first 18 months, just reading here and there - I didn't get very far - as far as understanding goes. However, in the last 18 months, I decided I should read them in order, and now it's all a little more clearer. Having said that, I'm 3 years in and still only half way there.

as you say with Dr Beter's revelations never really being challenged does make ya think, truth may be stranger than fiction!

Certainly!

With Icke,it's just a matter of personal taste after all it's the information that counts not The person selling it I wouldn't pay to see him.

I believe Icke had an experience of sorts - and he does talk more sense than most, however, as has been highlighted - he has got some 'far out' thoeries - who knows, maybe he is on to something, but he does need to be more tactful - and maybe go back to Uni to learn how to present his arguments from an acedemic point of view.

But I see what you mean Elvis, why should I care what they are making?

I always found it curious that the Phoenix Journals were never copy-righted. If Hatonn is to be believed it is because "You can not 'copy-right' the truth!". If it's opposers are to be believed - it was to suck us into International banking heist worth Millions. This is what I'm currently investigating. I know money was heavily involved around the Phoenix Operations, however, if people have the ability to manipulate financial matters on a huge scale, why would they scare potential investors away by talking about 'space command' none-sense'?]

That book "extraterrestrials and the American zeitgeist" does look like a good read.

Yea, I've only read the highlighted point available on Google - but seems like a good read if you want to get to know the history of channeling.

I do like books and I dare say I could buy one of Icke's at some point if I liked it.

Meh, his youtube vids are enough for me 

[Pimander]

Sorry Stealthy, I thought I was replying to Pimander - the skeptic. I should have gone to spec savers 

It would have meant the same thing if I had typed it Sinny. 

Sinny, Peter Beter means wanker in American slang.  I think there is a bit of a joke going on at our expense.

Can one of the esteemed American members correct the translation of the slang if I am wrong?  I think a Peter is a willy/penis/cock.  A Peter Beater is a wanker.

[Pimander]

Sorry Stealthy, I thought I was replying to Pimander - the skeptic.

What do you mean by sceptic?  I have seen a UFO so I know they exist.  I just try to be honest and think critically about everything I see, especially in the "conspiracy world".  Surely that is sensible when we already know vast portions of the information is counter intelligence and therefore disinformation?

Scepticism (English spelling) is the healthiest thing for any truth seeker.  Open minded is good but never accept anything at face value.  It is only pseudo-sceptical denial that is harmful.  I will never be a pseudo-sceptic and you will never catch me hoaxing, lying or anything similar unless it is a thought exercise (which I will always explain afterwards should that be the case).

Meh, his [Ickes's] youtube vids are enough for me 

"And The Truth Shall Set You Free" is actually a pretty good review of global conspiracy theory.  It was after his awakening but before he started claiming that the Queen is a reptilian and the rest of the nonsense.  The book summarises the pyramid of the global elite and actually names many of the key players in the global power network


http://www.amazon.com/And-Truth-Shall-Set-Free/dp/0953881059

I'd actually recommend reading it to any "budding truthist" even if Icke is a bit nuts.  Perhaps it is impossible to see the truth if you aren't mad enough to do silly things like post on here when you could be writing material that pays money (I mean me not Icke )

That will be £5 for the free advertising David. 

[stealthyaroura]

interviewer: "so the builderberg group are having another bash, what do you think will be on the agenda mr Icke?"

Icke: " well I imagine they will be deciding which of the useless eaters get to live or die..... I recently mentioned in my book 'Reptillian Overloards of the monarchy" blah blah bla"

He needs no help advertising LoL.

Peter beter=wanker? Well I can see the word play but I have not cum across anything to back this up? (Chortle F'nar) 

Sinny, I'm sticking to what you have posted here for the most part. (& links)
It's great material the Ekker etc stuff,you have been researching this for years! impressive.
I'm just enjoying reading what you have uncovered, I'm certainly no expert.

Watching the FOURTH KIND last night on TV did make me think if these are military psychological opps that's some messed up crazy $hit.?

So many angles to look at. Gets a little overwhelming though. what the hell is going on??
Sorry derail.