Water To Fuel Converter - (Explosive Gas by Electrolysis)

[Amaterasu]

Can We make this happen?

[zorgon]

Can We make this happen?

Sure any kid in first year physics in high school can blow up things with hydrogen



All you need is a car battery a tub of water and two empty soda bottles and some wire

[zorgon]

I like this one better..

PLASMA

[Amaterasu]

Nice!  Thanks, z.  What I liked about the presentation in the OP was how specific and detailed it was.

[stealthyaroura]

Amy this is high school stuff. real easy. i'm surprised you ask if we can make this happen.
I'm not having a go at you so don't take offence I just thought everyone had played with
this stuff.

simple setup=9 volt battery, 2 pieces of pencil lead(graphite),2 wires,jam jar,water.
can you picture the setup?

Zorgon's plasma one is a little more complex, I think that's running a tungsten rod and will probably have frequency counting/creating software and a digital voltage supply. quite high tech but not out of our reach.

[Amaterasu]

LOL!  I am sure We CAN make it happen.  Just threw that in there in hopes of motivating.  [smile]

[The Matrix Traveller]

Here is a method of getting Hydrogen and Oxygen from water at a very high rate.

In fact far faster than what is achieved on Earth at present...   





Water Enters in from the Left, while Hydrogen & Oxygen passes out through the right.


This process involves a Plasma.

Anyone can build this with a little engineering knowledge.

The Process is achieved through water being placed between the plates of a VHV Capacitor.

One Plate is a mesh like construction, and insulated from the water, while the other Plate
is in contact with the water.


In the Above Animation, the Piston (Metal) is in contact with the water.

The other Plate (mesh like) is imbedded in the lower Ceramic housing.


A VHV is placed across the 2 Plates.


Remember the mesh like plate is Insulated from the Water.

The Plasma forms between the 2 Plates.

NOTE; IF both plates are exposed to the Water a Plasma does NOT form.

The Technique, involves the Mesh like plate being Insulated from the water.   

[Amaterasu]

Very nice, Matrix!  Thank You for adding that!

[Eighthman]

Has a working model of this suggested electrolysis device ever been built?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Has a working model of this suggested electrolysis device ever been built?

Yes. Back in the 1990's which was used in another project...

It is very easy to do yourself.

Use Perspex or other VHV insulation as the dielectric instead of ceramic.

Use an "inverter", driving an "ignition coil" for your VHV.

Lay the mesh (length of thin copper wire zigzagging "to and fro", forming the plate.
Make sure a gap exists between each pass of the wire) between two layers of insulation and use
as one plate of the capacitor.


(( In the Cylinder it was used, I wound a spiral around a Cylinder made of thin ceramic and reinforced
with an outer cylinder.
The open ended Spiral acted as one plate of the Capacitor.
The other Plate was a Solid Rod that entered the inner Cylinder being supported in a bush.
A 0.2 mm gap existed between the piston and the cylinder wall where the water was.
The water was converted to oxygen and hydrogen then back to water again repeatedly.
This then drove a crankshaft. ))


Lay a thin film of water on the upper insulation, then a conductive plate on top of the water to act
as the other plate of the Capacitor.

Now deliver one pulse from your ignition coil to this capacitor. (The VHV pulse is AC )

NO catalyst required !

The plasma manifests between the two plates in the water.   

Warning: Water converts extremely fast in this method to oxygen and hydrogen.
The expansion may be in excess of 2,000 : 1.
(Where in a petrol internal combustion engine it is only about 4 to 6 : 1 expansion)

So please use extreme caution !

[Eighthman]

I am having great doubt about this HV/Moving Piston Device because of what it would suggest, if real.

If any of us got hold of a free energy device,  we would hold in our hands the ability to upend the whole global financial system, crash the stock markets,  emasculate the Evil Bankers and re-order all of Middle East politics.

I could not resist such temptation - and given that I believe you wish to be a Benefactor of Humanity, I don't see how you could turn down such an opportunity.

Nevertheless, I am not a pathological skeptic and respectfully wish to consider your reply.  I have many years of experience with high voltages applied to deionized water cooling systems - in tetrodes and klystrons ( although that is DC and has no insulation, other than the ion-free water itself)

[thorfourwinds]

Our LEO neighbors in South Carolina step up to the plate...





Police Use Water Instead of Gas for All Cars - YouTube

[Eighthman]

The Honea Police example is not clear as they may be using the water gas as an adjunct rather than a main (or only) supply.

I believe there is proof - suggested by JPL years ago- that adding H2 to a gasoline fed engine might be synergistic - increasing gas mileage by modulating the speed of the flame front.  Of course,  you can't legally experiment with this idea because Federal law prohibits any modification of pollution devices ( reminds me of "Three Felonies A Day")

There are some guys that claimed to replicate what Meyer claimed but their videos seem to disappear mysteriously !

[Amaterasu]

I am certain that THEY don't want Us to have the info.  Not surprised vids keep disappearing!

[zorgon]

Saw some posts at Pegasus Yahoo Group on HOH gas by our resident mad scientist

HOH gas or Brown's Gas is dangerous as the H and O are combined already and can explode in seconds like the Hindenberg. It is much safer and more efficient to keep the H and O separate until you use them.

As simple water torch has been around for decades. I used to use one on jewelry welding. Produced a nice thin pencil flame easy to control that was 5000 degrees Fahrenheit.  The combing of H and O leaves WATER as an 'exhaust' but that evaporates in the heat of the flame so is not an issue

A simple electrolysis water torch can be bought or make it yourself cheap. A good quality pro modle runs around $1400.00  No need to reinvent the wheeel..

Just add water... a low voltage supply and voila

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This unique machine generates a Clean Pin Point Flame With Temperatures Up to 5000 ºF from a Pen Size Torch.   No gas storage for safe, simple, reliable brazing and soldering.
This unit is supplied with 1 torch.
The Torch Stand is optional.
In operation the SRA H20 Welders uses low voltage electricity to dissociate distilled water into hydrogen and oxygen gases.
The torch tip is a hypodermic needle with 5 different sizes available.
Boric acid can be added to the Methyl-alcohol to act as a gas flux to keep parts clean. Distilled Water and Methyl-alcohol would need to be purchased locally.
Everything else is included.

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