Water To Fuel Converter - (Explosive Gas by Electrolysis)

[zorgon]

I believe there is proof - suggested by JPL years ago- that adding H2 to a gasoline fed engine might be synergistic - increasing gas mileage by modulating the speed of the flame front.  Of course,  you can't legally experiment with this idea because Federal law prohibits any modification of pollution devices ( reminds me of "Three Felonies A Day")

Back in my Car Ralley days we used to inject water vapor into the carbs... got extra gas milage that way too...

Later we used AvGas  (Aviation fuel for Cesnas) and other alcohol mixtures.

No it wasn't cheaper... just gave you more power

Yup you can still get them today



http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/index.html?gclid=CLPqjZOcv7gCFZF7QgodRFIAjw

My Ralley car was a Toyota 1976 Corona (ralley special) Had twin overhead half racing cams and twin solex carburators... Stripped out all the anti pollution stuff was getting 50 MPG at that time normal street driving

Took the car in for inspection because it needed to be road worthy... passed emission tests with flying colors

You CAN legally alter emission devices but you have to go get it passed after. It IS possible to have less emissions by modifications   All you have to do is take it to a DOT  inspection station and pass.  If your smart enough to tinker with the car, making it pass inspection is not that hard.

Race cars do not have to be street legal but Ralley cars do

I miss that car... sold it when I moved down to the States  Only found out after I got here that I could have brought it in under the Classic Car rules  DAMN  That thing did 185 in 3rd gear and had 5  speed syncromesh transmission...   Red line was somewhere over 9500 rpm  Engine was an 18RG imported 'used' from Japan and then rebuilt  (only way to get it legally )

[stealthyaroura]

I nearly posted about water injection Z.
yes we use it in todays turbocharged cars to gain more power as well as help stop detonation problems.
So you're a Hot Rodder eh another petrol head cool wait till ElvisH reads this he'll be as chuffed as me.infact take this to his "Top Gear" thread.
RED LINE 9500 WOOOO revy. sure must of been a short stroker.you talk the talk too impressive.

us in the UK just cannot get our heads around the need for the USA to have all these 5 litre + engines that are just gas guzzlers and not even that powerful for there cubic capacity.
The usual response from uncle sam is "COS WE CAN"
Take the early Formula 1 cars when that we're 1400 cc turbocharged v8's 900BHP all that jizz from little more capacity than your carton of orange juice

now there what 1600 only small but huge BHP
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/turbocharged-engines-in-formula-one-18108.html

[The Matrix Traveller]

I am having great doubt about this HV/Moving Piston Device because of what it would suggest, if real.

If any of us got hold of a free energy device,  we would hold in our hands the ability to upend the whole global financial system, crash the stock markets,  emasculate the Evil Bankers and re-order all of Middle East politics.

I could not resist such temptation - and given that I believe you wish to be a Benefactor of Humanity, I don't see how you could turn down such an opportunity.

Nevertheless, I am not a pathological skeptic and respectfully wish to consider your reply.  I have many years of experience with high voltages applied to deionized water cooling systems - in tetrodes and klystrons ( although that is DC and has no insulation, other than the ion-free water itself)

I can assure you it has been done.

This drawing may be easier to follow ?





NOTE; A very thin film of water must be used !


To get more understanding regarding producing plasma's yourself at home see...

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/s_gdp1.htm

[zorgon]

I nearly posted about water injection Z.
RED LINE 9500 WOOOO revy. sure must of been a short stroker.you talk the talk too impressive.

Toyota 18RG Engine
http://www.obrasmechanicos.com/18rg.html

18RG - dohc, 9.7:1 compression ratio, Toyota cylinder head, no smog hardware and 140 hp. Very rare and desirable. 4 cylinder 2litre 

Toyota 2000GT



Twin Solex Carbs  basiclly one throat per cylinder



Toyota Corona SR5 1974-76  Had an instrument panel on the ceiling with navigator lights like an airplane... reinforce side panels built in stone guard on bottom and reinforce struts

[stealthyaroura]

yes ZORG i'm a time served mechanic i can crunch them numbers.
you do realize how much a mint one of those is worth now
it's the car from 007 well they made the convertible JUST for that and liked it.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084152_james-bond-style-1967-toyota-2000-gt-sells-for-1-15-million

[stealthyaroura]

THAT is a classic love them jap engines. there very good.still are.
I bet you still had that beast. that's some horses a little tweak here and there they all add the BHP. silly kids with their noisy exhaust sigh it's all about gasflow,porting nice 4 branch thermally shielded manifolds etc. BUT of course you know all this Z. Ahh car porn.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Jap engineering IS good

I drove a 2 liter Celica GT up a mountain in France once, felt like i was in 'the italian job' LOL

I guess this is where i go 'cough cough Stan Meyer'

[zorgon]

I drove a 2 liter Celica GT up a mountain in France once, felt like i was in 'the italian job' LOL

Celica and Corona had the same engine, but the Corona was more durable off road

If I get good cash for my stamp collection I may see if I can find one

[stealthyaroura]

Jap engineering IS good

I drove a 2 liter Celica GT up a mountain in France once, felt like i was in 'the italian job' LOL

I guess this is where i go 'cough cough Stan Meyer'

yep meyer land pal. i'm liking matrix T design and I reckon the plates method is the best for producing loads of HHO on demand and a small 1000cc engine.
just need you luke pal to come up with the signal for the circuit to break them atoms free the most effectively.
oh and the circuit.
you have the frequency counters voltage regulators and oscilloscopes mate.
I have seen the setup I would like but it's dear stuff (the equipment) i'm not so sure of the terms as i'm a bit rusty but if I show you a vid of a guys gear maybe you can give a quick explanation of what it is and what it does.no rush I know ya busy pal. just check back once in awhile. ROB.

[zorgon]

silly kids with their noisy exhaust sigh

Yeah the silly kids always wanted to prove something... Problem is I could hit 55mph before needing to change to second

This is similar to what the interior looked like though I didn't strip my upholstery

[stealthyaroura]

thats the way Z strip out all the excess weight.
makes NO difference to the top end but the acceleration!
thats a different story.meant to say bet you WISH you still had that jap ROD.
is there anything you have not done
I bet under the hood was as immaculate as the exterior?
was that your motor the corona on the drive? very clean example.$$$$$

real mans man. petrol head
maybe we should move the petrol headness over to Elvis H's thread Top Gear?
or too much work? i don't mind either way.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

The only thing i can do is move the entire 'Stan Meyer verified' thread from the Inventor's Forum to here.
Give me a day or 2.....kinda busy

[stealthyaroura]

The only thing i can do is move the entire 'Stan Meyer verified' thread from the Inventor's Forum to here.
Give me a day or 2.....kinda busy

NO NO leave it there I am a member pal. don't stress.
honest. I will pop in there (should be in there more shame on me!!!)

[The Seeker]

pwm,(glad to see you,mate ) stealthy, I have a design for hho courtesy of matyas that doesn't use plates; which it does produce hydrogen peroxide but all it is consists of a plastic container(grounded, of course) of water with a spark plug wire from a coilpack inserted in it then tied into the engine timing so you get pulsed hv every time the engine fires...

supposed to work on any type of water without added catalyst...


thoughts?


seeker

[stealthyaroura]

sounds simple enough seeker yes just tap straight into the ignition coil
heck take a tap off each HT lead even the RPM would regulate the HH0 output
can't see there being a problem as far as upsetting the firing of the engine if diodes
are used so there's no feedback.

i'm thinking a small car like a 1000cc 4 cylinder with a carburetor.
none of this injection or ECU stuff or the myriad of sensors.
Keep it simple I say. sounds good seeker, promising.