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Started by Elvis Hendrix, June 30, 2013, 07:56:44 PM

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rdunk

Quote from: spacemaverick on June 30, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Johnlenardwalson/photos

Found this page on facebook and I guess we are going to start digging.  Letr' rip.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/hali-encel/my-scope-and-some-information/347762488576048

I suppose that you know, anyone who is not a facebook member cannot read/go to facebook links?

Sinny

Quote from: rdunk on June 30, 2013, 11:29:18 PM
I suppose that you know, anyone who is not a facebook member cannot read/go to facebook links?

It's the 21st century dude  8)

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spacemaverick

Quote from: stealthyaroura on June 30, 2013, 10:04:59 PM
nice one spacemaverick gold for you.
so 'ol Lenard use's a Small light-weight monochrome analogue near-ultraviolet sensitive machine vision video camera (1/2-type CCIR/EIA)
stuck on the end of that must be some huge lens. he has not updated his camera setup.
OR I cannot access it.
seems he's quite the academic too?

But take a look at those facebook groups ??? bit dodgy some of them.are they groups he's a member of? I abandoned facebook ages ago, I hate it.

I am not really crazy about facebook but it can be another source of information.  I am dubious about the groups but once again they can be a source.  All sorts of people like to put all kinds of info on there and you never know what kind of nuggets you pick up.
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spacemaverick

Quote from: rdunk on June 30, 2013, 11:29:18 PM
I suppose that you know, anyone who is not a facebook member cannot read/go to facebook links?

Yeah, I know....but it is a source of information.  For some people it is easier to create their own page rather than do a website or create a website.
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zorgon

Quote from: spacemaverick on July 01, 2013, 12:02:27 AM
  All sorts of people like to put all kinds of info on there and you never know what kind of nuggets you pick up.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4716.msg63619#msg63619

Amaterasu

Quote from: stealthyaroura on June 30, 2013, 08:50:44 PM
I really don't know. we have all seen that picture of earth with all the satellites orbiting it
There is so much stuff up there it begers belief.
another bandwagon to ride. sigh ::)

Let's put this in some perspective here.  Though on a circle an inch in diameter, dots put on for the stuff up there that are maybe a 20th of the diameter, yeah. Cluttered as hell.

Take the dots and make them  - I dunno what the fraction would be for the diameter of the earth on average but You get My drift...  And add to that that the dots are not all at the same height, taking up volume that is not represented in 2D, and the bits are VERY widely spread out.
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Amaterusa:

The diameter of the earth at the equator is 7,926.41 miles (12,756.32 kilometers).
But, if you measure the earth through the poles the diameter is a bit shorter - 7,901 miles (12,715.43 km). Thus the earth is a tad wider (25 miles / 41 km) than it is tall, giving it a slight bulge at the equator. This shape is known as an ellipsoid or more properly, geoid or synonymous too "Earth Like".

The Pole measurements and equatorial differences are do to the pancake do to the gravitational influences of the Moon.

QuoteVenture out into your backyard with a good pair of binoculars and you will get an opportunity to study the destructive potential of hypervelocity impacts. Many of the biggest lunar craters are rimmed with ragged white spokes formed eons ago when lunar subsoil was hurled radially outward by huge meteorites slamming into the surface of the moon. The average impact velocity of those savagely energetic projectiles has been estimated at 44,000 mi/hr.

Now swivel your binoculars gently across the evening sky, and you can uncover solid evidence for the population explosion of space debris whirling around the earth. Look toward the southwest as the sun begins to sink below the horizon. Four or five times every hour you will spot at least one orbiting object shimmering in the light of the setting sun. Now wait an hour or two and notice the number of stars visible to the naked eye. If the sky is dark and clear, and there are no city lights to create background glare, you should be able to see about 3000 stars--roughly half the number of objects now orbiting in one hemisphere. At this moment, space-age technicians at North American Air Defense (NORAD) are tracking more than 7000 objects whirling around the earth including hundreds of operational satellites, plus a much larger number of spent rockets, dead or dying space vehicles, shrouds, clamps, fasteners, and even Ed White's silver glove, which came off during his first walk in space.

Each year about 800 new objects are added, and roughly half that number plunge back down toward earth. Fortunately, most of them burn up before they impact the ground. Objects as small as soccer balls can be tracked by NORAD radars, but much smaller and lighter fragments can present a hazard to travelers in space. Because of their savage velocities, even a space debris fragment as small as a garden pea can damage an artificial satellite. Experts estimate that the total number of objects of destructive size is at least 20,000, perhaps substantially more.

Sixty percent of the trackable objects in NORAD's inventory have been produced by violent explosions in space, nearly 100 of which are known to have occurred. During the Cold War Russian scientists found a way to blow up enemy satellites. Their "killer satellites," big, deadly sawed-off shotguns, created one quarter of the explosions when they tested their space-age killer satellites against targets they launched into space. Spaceborne explosions also occurred when propellant tanks on American upper-stage rockets suddenly raptured. A few of these rockets were believed to be dead in space for 3 years or more before they exploded. According to industry rumors, early Soviet astronauts may have further aggravated the space debris problem by tossing garbage out of their manned space stations. NORAD's radar imaging devices are not sensitive enough to make a positive identification, but Russian watermelon rinds may be intermingled with other spaceborne objects our military technicians have observed streaking across their radar screens.

The Growing Hazard of Artificial Space Debris

It would basically look like the swarm we see in the representations of such Debris fields in Space, and as far as the JLW footage being discussed, and with 'Z' apparently having good account or ability to have the inside track with his contacts being one and the same for the Email contacting information, I am more to garner this too be the fact. Unless there's a mole living with or working with him?  :o

Some of these video captures would be much more easy to answer with more precise video and capture information, also having Declination and locations of such caught videos is very relevant to really disclose what these objects may be.

In my days of the backyard astronomer phase, I have seen/witnessed some very strange things with my own eye's, but unfortunately, this was before I could advance with image recording and Automatic Tracking gear for my telescope. Wish I would have gotten some picture's of those moments, would be worthy of discussion. ;)

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Quote from: Amaterasu on July 01, 2013, 02:32:23 AM
Let's put this in some perspective here.  Though on a circle an inch in diameter, dots put on for the stuff up there that are maybe a 20th of the diameter, yeah. Cluttered as hell.

Take the dots and make them  - I dunno what the fraction would be for the diameter of the earth on average but You get My drift...  And add to that that the dots are not all at the same height, taking up volume that is not represented in 2D, and the bits are VERY widely spread out.

And it STILL begers belief. lest we forget china's anti satellite attack (collision whatever) and look
where that got us. only need a couple more like that and it will be a real mess. 

Exactly 1WW gold for your post & link.
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