Non-existant off world hardware

[zorgon]

What really annoys me is 99% of the population just don't give a toss about these technologies they don't even know who Ben Rich Boyd Bushman or even Kelly Johnson are let alone what they did who they worked for etc.

That doesn't bother me... DO NOT wake the sheep  we NEED sheep. What bothers me is the ones who scream for proof and when ya slap them in the face with it they say "Oh nice... I will look at that later... what did you just say about tits and the Kardashian?"

That is why Pegasus is admin registration...  the SHEEP have facebook where truth is not an issue as long as its a good story that can be tweeted, liked and shared.

I tried...  tried to show people... but I gave up. I am out numbered by the Nassim Haramein's and the Steven Greer's. I don't have the ability nor the inclination to go on the circuit and be a story teller... even if it means good bucks

These guys can make up anything they want and still have their groupies drooling over every word. Natioanl Geographic I used to trust to be THE source of reality... but even they have gone the way of the History Channel and Discovery Channel... "Any good story to get the audience..."

TV shows like Ghost Hunters and UFO Hunters... neither ever caught one yet and the Ghost Hunter's show... those idgits jump in mock fear at every little bump in the night vision.  No one cares about the truth... its all the show that counts

Even in the Gem and Mineral business. When I started collecting rocks and cutting gems, sure there were a few merchants selling fake stuff as real and 'trade names' came about like calling smokey quartz "Smokey Topaz" and selling it to a gullible public.  Today it is worse... Kids are no longer taking up rock collecting so the mineral and gem market has become dominated by what we term the "Healy Feely" crowd...

These people are those that THINK they know about crystals and like UFO's any good story will sell. Today you will see quartz crystals that are actually cut, not natural crystal.. They are died and or coated with titanium and given weird names like Aqua Aura Quartz and a small tumbled stone that is worh .25 cents sells for $9.99 in a little velvet bag to protect the energy.

We called them "Healy Feely" becuae at the gem shows they would come in and run their hands through a box of tumble stones and "feel the crystal energy"  Got news for ya  a tumbled stone is a piece of rock, not a crystal. Only a PURE crytsal will channel energy. This is proven by science since we made crystal radios and ruby rod lasers.

Oddly enough in THIS case man made is better because the material is pure and it is simply made the way nature makes it without the impurities.  You can believe what you want but a crystal is INERT... All it does is channel and amplify the energy of the holder/user and if the crystal is flawed the energy scatters about randomly.

Yeah I will get trolled by some "Healy Feely" that says they know better... but those are the ones that buy organite

So what to do? My market for minerals beyond the top specimens is drying up... no new blood... Do I join the crowd and put fancy names on my stuff and sell a 25 cent stone for 10.00?   I might have to otherwise my ferrets will starve... but it galls me that no one cares

all people seem to care about is have i seen Rianna's tit$ out this week or who kim kardashian is shagging. jesus christ! like I give a crap about that garbage, kill me please.!

LOL I had to look up who that was

When you get the like's of Rich and Bushman saying whatever you can imagine it's already been done and it would take an act of god to get these projects into the public eye you have to take that as FACT (well i do) that we have made HUGE leaps in technology and it also may not of all been HUMAN.

Go to ATS and you will find 100 naysayers saying Ben and Boyd never said it or was kidding. The ONLY benefit I got from ATS was the real insiders sending me tips and links BEHIND THE SCENES because a) they knew I would keep them confidential and b) they don't speak openly on the circuit because they know there is no point. Had it not been for these people I would have given up a long time ago.

In fact I should really be spending more time cultivating those leads but I had hoped to build a team of real trusted investigators to share the email load

the average joe just does not care is not even bothered.

Only when it effects them directly.

@seeker I agree the risks and the tidbits of info are frustrating as hell But I have to believe like 1WW these technologies exist.
Look at Z's latest thread on that antimatter engine infact ALL the PDF files from NIAC like teleportation to name just one who has even bothered to look?

Remember my TEST?  About 10 people actually tried   I never got to PART TWO the space station . People don't read documents. In fact I have so many on high tech like a laser at China Lake Navy base that can send electricity to the moon. Exuberant1 did that collecting... he too went POOF

There are so many files that even I haven't read them And same thing happened to Clifford Stone at ATS

But now we have access to all Cliff's files and him

Like the old saying you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
some aren't even getting to the water! sad. so much effort put into this site.

Better to have 10 true seekers then 1 million useless eaters It is enough that I KNOW... anyone else is a bonus... had a teacher once tell me that if he had just ONE student that truly grasped what he was teaching his life would be complete

It doesn't matter... (if you believe life goes beyond the grave) about the sheep... forget about them, don't waste your time waking them, because all you will have is a bunch of lost sheep that don't know what to do. There time will come

Want to change the world? become a SHEPHERD  lead by example.  What use is educating sheep if there is no alternative? Amy's TAP is a long term Utopian goal... but if the sheep are free NOW who will feed them and protect them?  The problems in the world are the current shepherds.  But while everyone is whining about mind control, Illuminati planning to euthenise half the population and other assorted evil deeds... no one is stepping up to the plate to actually do something. You can't even get people to BOYCOTT EXXON

what we need is a small elite group,our own millenium group if you will who can handle the truth and promise to keep it just between ourselves.

Precisely why Pegasus was created   But we keep losing the key members

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Hey I'm still here! ( not very smart or 'in the know', but here none the less)

[zorgon]

Hey I'm still here! ( not very smart or 'in the know', but here none the less)

yeah and your one of 3 in the Secret Room


I will post the stuff from IgnoreTheFact later today.... might open a few eyes especially those who remember him from ATS

[robomont]

thats where a super computer with all planets asteroids meteors solar systems galaxies and universes and their orbits would come in handy.

the shortest distance between two points may be a curve?

[Anthra]

Even Star Trek used impulse drive when in the solar system But even Light Speed drive would take 4.5 years to get to the closest star

Travel between stars really isn't so much about going really fast (FTL, and a whole lot more about "Time Dilation Management". If we use a drive like the Gravito-Electromagnetic field system I talk about; it isn't hard to accelerate a ship to "Light speed" and beyond. The real issue is; "It took me 6 months to get here and 250 years have passed for the rest of the Universe."

There are existing methods to at least begin to manage Tie Dilation; one is called "frame-dragging". This is a case where we arrange for the deliberate "dragging" of our "own" inertial frame. And, guess what!!! The artificial gravity produced by the field drive provides for some small amount of "dragging". This would allow for a ship, properly equipped, to "defy" the mathematics of Time Dilation. This along with other "passive" effects could provide of kind of "FTL".

This system works it's "magick" by affecting what is termed the "local clock" (your clock). if you are not in perfect synch with "hear and now" there may be a sort of "stutter" effect caused by you slightly "out of synch" presence. Might make for quite the "vision".

[robomont]

no im not nuts.this thread is moving fast.my post was to a comment a few post back.

@zorgon.im interested in the high points of articles but its a tough ride for me personally to read pdfs on my droid.if i had a bigger screen im actually a very fast reader.when i want to i can read a typical book in a day or less.

i do like reading these new techs but they are mostly heing used to distract from the truth.like handing someone a picture of a weedeater motor when somebody ask about the stealth bomber.no insult intended at you or your sources.i just feel the tech is very oldschool being past off to us as cutting edge.

personally my own level of understanding seems to be higher than most.pwm deuem le are the only ones that seem to grasp my theories.im not trying to be an egonut.

there are alot of liars out there.like 99%.when it comes to ufos.thats why i love this place.we dont have any agenda but the truth.

keep the knowledge flowing .we can judge it as it flows.

[robomont]

@anthra.where can i find your theory so i may review?

[Gigas]

Reality is based on dream factory lies and deception to protect its true self. The world as most see it is not the world some of us know it REALLY is.

Here's a little something for those who want to know. On any given moment of the day or night, you slip between realities where one has you most the time and the other has an occult predator waiting to unzip your mind and pull you into its spell. You may know it as high weirdness with a what was that moment if you can realize it.

Do you really believe all that you see and have learned to trust is all of it. There's documented proof all around you to simply look and pick it up, turn it around and place that piece in the puzzle for a picture of the hidden realm.

WTF's the use, the planets over come by digital TV role playing game ZOMBIES!!! unable to see past the bright lights dazzling them to refuse knowing anything else but what their 5 senses tell them is real.

[zorgon]

So what your saying is that your a figimentation or Robomonts imagination?

[1Worldwatcher]

yeah and your one of 3 in the Secret Room

Though I was a bit late to the Peggy Forum with association to the living moon, I have always been a member 'Z', and even though you have these juicy morsels of information, you make it more a game than a point of conversation which is very hard to understand.

I have been around from both site's and know a few folks, am getting better at searching archives (Which is a chore on it's own when one does not know how to do this effectively ) and I read what is posted with in them and take everything with a grain of salt, for they are forum poster's as anyone else that has access to our forums.   

"Ever think it is how you are with holding and then openly admitting you have such incredible evidence with out showing it or bringing it out to the public for open discussion?" I don't usually post to a thread that is only allowed to be viewed as a read only, which is fine, but having my own personal thoughts and this with in what you provide should be considered 'Someone Interested' not lazy or stupid to the facts.

I don't know JL or BL personally, or anyone in the military that was at Roswell NM for the recovery, I have older military friends that have given me stories I find to be factual based on the timelines and discussion's we have had over incidences, with a bit of research after the matter of discussion, but these are normal, low ranking guy's that were military affiliated with nothing to do but their time in the service. Heck, I have one friend that was on the USS Roosevelt, he was an Ensign, and he has a great tale of his service on it, but I never share it here because A) he was sworn too secrecy and didn't have anyone to tell his tales too except for me that even came close too wanting to listen with earnest and truthful heart. B) He doesn't want to be ridiculed and called Loonie for what he knows as a fact with in his life, and I can associate myself to that kind of mentality.

All things considered, and with your admittance to the "Small Room" only tells me you are thinking less of anyone's ability to even share, have felt this way for sometime now, but I figured it would all come out, after so many years here and on Yahoo groups, which is where I was from the beginning until you finally contacted me to let me know the site was up and running for almost a year by that time.

I was invited and now I am shunned , I spoke the truth about certain members and then I was barred, and there were other's that have let me know this wasn't the last time that you would have wanted me out the door of Peggy. I don't understand anything of what you are attempting to do because of the way you are doing it, and it becomes rather a foggy perception of what it is you exactly want.

Either way, small rooms are for few people, I think you find that both controlling and comforting, eh?

1WW

[zorgon]

@zorgon.im interested in the high points of articles but its a tough ride for me personally to read pdfs on my droid.if i had a bigger screen im actually a very fast reader.when i want to i can read a typical book in a day or less.

This is why I keep telling people it's not necessary to post entire articles... just pull out the key points

i do like reading these new techs but they are mostly heing used to distract from the truth.like handing someone a picture of a weedeater motor when somebody ask about the stealth bomber.no insult intended at you or your sources.i just feel the tech is very oldschool being past off to us as cutting edge.

Only problem is that those documents ARE about the stealth bomber and the secret space station not the weed eater

personally my own level of understanding seems to be higher than most.pwm deuem le are the only ones that seem to grasp my theories.im not trying to be an egonut.

LE quit wanted account deleted because of a tiff with someone. PWM is MIA at the moment... did he blow himself up with that Nuclear fusion thingy he was working one?  Russo, Dood, Exuberant1, Pimander..  all went POOF  only Russo said goodbye but didn't really explain why

That is no way to run a railroad

there are alot of liars out there.like 99%.when it comes to ufos.thats why i love this place.we dont have any agenda but the truth.

99% is about right

keep the knowledge flowing .we can judge it as it flows.

...but the brain is flowing like molassase in Antarctica

[robomont]

i did not know that about le.im sad.the guy is brilliant.
@1ww.i didnt know you were banned from here.i never knew such a thing to exist here.ive only seen z edit three post the entire time ive been on this site.

i would definitely like to look at the docs you just mentioned but dont know where to find them.
i think pwm is working if i remember correctly.
i thought i saw a post from pman the other day but i dont see him much.it may have been an old thread.
i wish folks would just speak up if they have a problem.i miss all of them.im sure we could acomadate them somehow.

[zorgon]

Though I was a bit late to the Peggy Forum with association to the living moon, I have always been a member 'Z',

yeah you popped in from somewhere back at ATS .. attached to Matyas? not sure

and even though you have these juicy morsels of information, you make it more a game than a point of conversation which is very hard to understand.

When I started the website all the info was posted clear and in order on those pages complete with photos links papers and backup data and updates as I found them.

Today even here people will pop in and say "HEY!! Guess what I found...!" Never even asked if we had covered it already

So what to do? Shoot them down and say "Yeah old news see here..." or play the game and repeat old work?

That is why ATS went the route of closing threads  but over there the closing of the thread just became the issue and trolls started hunting people who dared post a similar topic. Even one case that was a new update was treated like that so much so that the new information never made it to the old thread and was lost in the noise

If I was smart I would go back to the old way of only posting stuff on the website... no noise  and at least I know that 35,000ish unique IP's per month are reading it

I have been around from both site's and know a few folks, am getting better at searching archives (Which is a chore on it's own when one does not know how to do this effectively )

Search here.... go to menu page  type in a FEW key words and you will find it  like "NASA bokeh zorgon" will take you to my post on NASA UFO orbs

But even back at ATS the easiest way to search was google Example  in google search type this
"FTL_navigator space command zorgon ATS"

I was looking for a key post by this guy "FTL_navigato" that he made in the naval space command thread. Putting those words into google and VOILA  its the top hit in results

Now try this "solar warden ATS  zorgon"

All the first results are my pages on various forums on Solar Warden. Since you were there from the beginning you know how old those trreads are

cont

[zorgon]

The Winged Horses And The Spaceship,

This was the thread that started it all Matyas put it in skunkworks from the get go because he knew they would anyway... but still right away it was attacked by the Mod Squad.  (he had the title in Hungarian And the King Lizard (what a name for a mod ) pounced

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread214946/pg1

That was were we talked building the first prototype spaceship. Pegasus was born on Page three  Alred appeared on page 6

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Hey all
Now my head hurts. It seems to me that anyone that wants to improve the human race is being bought off and disipearing. Z did i not tell you that the Circus is in town. I do believe that it is happing here. If PWM is gone it is more proof that THEY are trying to shut things down.

Robo get a computer and down load things and print them out. I know that is costly but very inportant info is disapeering fast. I am going tomarrow to get more ink so that I can print out PWM'S stuff.

Z this site has an insider that is part of THEM
I may not post here again until things are figgured out.

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