Snowden reveals UFO secrets?

[spacemaverick]

It appears that Snowden had made it to Venezuela or is at least in the process of attempting to do so.  (Not verified as of yet)  This article claims that Snowden has leaked some documentation that UFO's are from the mantle of the earth and the civilization is far more advanced.  Right now, items about Snowden are somewhat confusing.  Don't know if the confusion is by design or what?  Thoughts anyone?

http://www.chronicle.su/news/snowden-reveals-ufo-documents-after-receiving-asylum-in-venezuela/

I am going to dig some more on this subject.  Its hard to trust the Internet, so I will see if I can find more stories about this particular subject matter.

[spacemaverick]

So far it's just one story with many differing opinions.  Here is one from UFO Digest:

UFO-Extraterrestrial Snowden Moment

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/snowden-moment-0611

Are the powers that be using their technology to make millions off an unsuspecting public?

[zorgon]

Once upon a time Wikileaks leakes 250,000 cables...

Talk soon started on how many of those cable contained UFO leaks...

Even though Julian Assange himself repeatedly said there was NOTHING on UFO's and Alien.

But it doesn't matter to the "believers"  They will just make up whatever they want to hear, then Tweet it, retweet it, share and like it on Farcebook and soon it becomes real...

Like this one today... posted five minutes ago and already has 84 likes and 46 shares

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/970087_662302700450004_20348300_n.jpg

There will NEVER be disclosure... and even if there was it would be so buried in Thor's carp that no one would see it

UFO Believers are their own worst enemy...

[Elvis Hendrix]

You sound like your having a bad day Z.

I hope there will be.

If nobody digs there will never be.

So chin up and get with the job in hand.
Or il send the mother in law around

[spacemaverick]

Once upon a time Wikileaks leakes 250,000 cables...

Talk soon started on how many of those cable contained UFO leaks...

Even though Julian Assange himself repeatedly said there was NOTHING on UFO's and Alien.

But it doesn't matter to the "believers"  They will just make up whatever they want to hear, then Tweet it, retweet it, share and like it on Farcebook and soon it becomes real...

Like this one today... posted five minutes ago and already has 84 likes and 46 shares

There will NEVER be disclosure... and even if there was it would be so buried in Thor's carp that no one would see it

UFO Believers are their own worst enemy...

I think the last part or line that "UFO believers are their own worst enemy" is a very true statement.  All too often the "believers" may run out of fresh reports or think the public wants more...so they have to come up with something...so they start making stuff up and this muddies the water.  I am not saying "all" do this but I think a large number fell into this little trap.  For me, I still have an open mind.  Right now I question the "truthfulness" of the "Snowden comment." but my mind remains open.

[1Worldwatcher]

So far it's just one story with many differing opinions.  Here is one from UFO Digest:

UFO-Extraterrestrial Snowden Moment

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/snowden-moment-0611

Are the powers that be using their technology to make millions off an unsuspecting public?

As I read through the articles, it seems they are quite dated for release and association to FB leaves me a bit apprehensive too really accepting this as a valid truth. Ed Komerak had written this editorial some 4+ weeks ago, there by filing it very close too the whole Snow3den N$A debacle.

He even use's such word's as "Hopeful" or "Possibly" too reassure that these are hypothetical's and aren't 'Facts' of the matter.

I don't need anyone to convince me there are UFO's in our Night/Day time skies, I have my reasons of 'Believing' this as fact.

I have no idea how the stories are going to play out for mr. Sn0wd3n, but, if one is going to follow seriously of anything being released by way of gobment acknowledgement of UFO/ET disclosure, well, let's say this is a far cry from happening, the most recent UFO Symposium held In Greensboro NC (June 29TH-30TH, 2013) and the symposium in Chile, South America are the real interest's too be watched for something such as this.

And as far as I can tell from my correspondence's with Lelsie Kean, UFO author and speaker at this Symposium, there were eye roll's and nothing really significant that is changing anything.

Sorry too sound so "UFO Skeptical" for I am not at all, just don't see anything like the Sn0wd3n debacle really revealing nothing, and 'YES' be careful where we hear this information from, FB and Tweet's aren't where the truth's are for this topic.
Unless of course they have some pictures and a link.. LOL

1WW

[zorgon]

You sound like your having a bad day Z.

Nope having a good day I have always said, and so hs John that there will be no official disclosure

I hope there will be. If nobody digs there will never be.

There is  for the few that can muck through the mire...

Problem is the muck already requires hip waders that are neck high and we haven't reached the deep end yet

When you have guys like Klaus Donner and Nassim Haramein creating ancient Mayan artifacts that show aliens and then getting coverage on National Geographic... then what hope does the little guy have of ever finding the truth?

The UFO/Alien business makes BIG BUCKS  Stanton gave up a 'career' in Nuclear physics to hawk UFO's Dr Greer and Dr Lier  both make more money in the Alien feild than they could as medical doctors and medical doctors make a fortune.

So yeah I will keep digging... but I am getting older and more tired and the mountain of crap is getting deeper by the day

Government disinfo agents? Hell no they don't need them LOL The Twitterheads, the Farcebook "Like Me" crowd and the YT Hoaxers are working for free

So chin up and get with the job in hand.
Or il send the mother in law around

Oh yeah? Well she would have to get past the Attack Ferrets first

And where are the Pegasus "Boots on the Ground" team out there interviewing people?

[robomont]

im w you zorgon.the piles of crap are big but we all have really good noses.
the crap filter/pegasus helps alot.i think we are on a better track than the other 99%.
friedman and howe are stooges so we know who not to trust.

we dont get the leaks per se but our analytical skills get us further than other teams.our powers of deduction are better too.

[zorgon]

Re: Symposiums

Ever been to one? I have

They have some good speakers... that talk and tell a story. Some stories are great, some good, and some utter BS... but in the end all it is is TALK

There are several Crash Recovery Symposiums around like the annual one in Laughlin.  They TALK about the MANY UFO crashes and crash sites. Yet in all those years, in all those crash sites, there is never ONE PIECE of metal.

I have seen military crash sites of top secret aircraft... they are good at cleanup but even today some of those sights you can find little scraps

We keep saying how inefficient the government is but on the other hand we say they are 100% efficient at cleaning up UFO crashes

Point is symposiums are 10% talk, 90% selling healing gems, books and alien toys.



MUFON even says only 15% are good yet in the pics they shoed in the news report I spotted several known fakes...

And at the end,  even the top investigators have to say "They could be military... we just don't know"


Now then  Who wants to buy a John Lear talks about Bob lazar dvd?

[zorgon]

im w you zorgon.the piles of crap are big but we all have really good noses.
the crap filter/pegasus helps alot.i think we are on a better track than the other 99%.

By JOVE you got it!!! There is an invention we need  A crap filter with Pegasus LOGO  Doesn't need to work, just a novelty item WE BE RICH

friedman and howe are stooges so we know who not to trust.

Sad thing is they started out with the right intentions... at least we think they did

we dont get the leaks per se but our analytical skills get us further than other teams.our powers of deduction are better too.

Well yes we do  and I hav eposted them. But they come via private emails

At ATS I was sent the link to the Commander of the Naval Space Command in my thread... ATS deleted that post but I caught it. That was kinda the proof of the thread LOL

Dr Resnick sent me the stealth patent (with warnings)  I posted what was safe and now its out

There are more  I need to sort them I also have a list I need to follow up on

[undo11]

i think it's a human problem.  we have knee jerk reactions to information, based on our information prejudices.

for example, the "ufos are evil" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

the "ufos are not real" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

the "ufos are real" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

the "ufos are only military vehicles" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

and the "ufos are extra-terrestrials" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

this tells me that each one of those areas has discovered important information, so important, that they are completely convinced.  as a result, i'm going with the position that they are all correct:  sometimes it's evil entites, sometimes it's actual ETs (some ETs might actually be mean and awnry, and some might be quite nice), sometimes it's government vehicles and sometimes it's extra-terrestrial vehicles piloted by ETs. sometimes it's real and sometimes it's bs.

we have our jobs cut out for us, obviously.

[robomont]

even fifty years ago we didnt recognize them as anything.

now we recognize them mostly as vehicles of intelligent design.
i say thats a step in the right direction.
we know the tr3b uses alien tech because we know what the tr3b looks like and the tech has been around for thousands of years.and the tr3b uses ancient tech.
we know it has a ball of light and can cloak.same stuff the aliens/ancients use.
so either the gov reinvented it or they got it from someone who new how to build it.i doubt the gov really cared about the vimanas or egypt  enough to spend money on speculation so my guess they were given the tech from a stranger.what that stranger is.is the big ?

[zorgon]

we have our jobs cut out for us, obviously.

Yes... yes we do..

...we need to catch one...

Then you can interview him

[Anthra]

The UFO/Alien business makes BIG BUCKS  Stanton gave up a 'career' in Nuclear physics to hawk UFO's Dr Greer and Dr Lier  both make more money in the Alien feild than they could as medical doctors and medical doctors make a fortune.

This is the biggest road block to disclosure. Unfortunately it IS the Stanton Friedman's, Steven Greer's of the UFO world that are holding back disclosure, they would be out of a job if it happened. Remember the last election? Marijuana was on the ballot in California, it was defeated; by the growers! No percentage in making their "cash crop" legal! No percentage in allowing disclosure! (perhaps if we keep it just "muddy" enough, no one will figure it out).

Disclosure, however, is not a fight that can be won. Disclosure absolutely MUST happen eventually; it is unavoidable.

[Sinny]

i think it's a human problem.  we have knee jerk reactions to information, based on our information prejudices.

for example, the "ufos are evil" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

the "ufos are not real" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

the "ufos are real" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

the "ufos are only military vehicles" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

and the "ufos are extra-terrestrials" crowd, will not consider any evidence to the contrary.

this tells me that each one of those areas has discovered important information, so important, that they are completely convinced.  as a result, i'm going with the position that they are all correct:  sometimes it's evil entites, sometimes it's actual ETs (some ETs might actually be mean and awnry, and some might be quite nice), sometimes it's government vehicles and sometimes it's extra-terrestrial vehicles piloted by ETs. sometimes it's real and sometimes it's bs.

we have our jobs cut out for us, obviously.

Ahh I like that post!

How interesting, I find my self a little bit of each one of those 'crowds'.

In regards to disclosure -

In my opinion 'disclosure' has already happened.
I had a UFO pretty much pop up to my face, seemingly just because it could. That was my disclosure.

Millions of other people have had personal disclosure.
Many more can interpret all of our documents and NASA footage as 'disclosure'.

What on earth do people expect 'disclosure' to look like?

I don't know the actual figure, but say what? 70% of the globe are in agreement, life is out there? Is that not disclosure?

As to the minority who don't believe, they lack perception, and most likely are spiritualy less mature, or repressed. How can you deny the obvious? The blatant? The open?

This is like 'the Earth is flat' all over again.

*facepalm*.