My answer to Atheism

[undo11]

I have thought long and hard about this topic, and from just about every conceivable angle. Setting aside the theological reasons (which are many and varied), I want to go straight to the heart of the matter:

When I think of all the wondrous minds, talents and lives that have graced this planet, and how soon they are forgotten in the sands of time, I simply refuse to believe that this is their ultimate fate. I refuse to believe that my mother, who was for all intents and purposes, one of the most loving and patient people I will ever have the pleasure of knowing in this life, is simply gone, all that wisdom, talent, the uniqueness of her life experiences that molded her into who she ultimately became -- the universe would be wasting massive amounts of awesome to just eradicate people from any level of existence.

Even if you don't believe in a sentient god or think that god is just natural forces--- i would still exclaim the same-- we have conservation of energy-- and I'm convinced we have conservation of awesome.

This is my firm and unrelenting answer to atheism

[ArMaP]

Is that really related to atheism?

[undo11]

Is that really related to atheism?

it covers the main theme of atheism == that we are just dirt blobs that managed, thru evolution, to lumber about and accidentally understand things, after which point we become dirt again and that's it.  i call it the nothing.  the nothing is not
good. the nothing is the absence of everything.  i don't believe the nothing exists. hehe

[zorgon]

Actually reincarnation covers it better  AND explains why some people are born with built in skills they retain from a previous life

No God required... just as you say the Conservation of Energy in this case the Life Force

And when we reach that state of ascension and become beings of light and energy... maybe WE become those Plasma Critters

[zorgon]

the nothing is the absence of everything.  i don't believe the nothing exists. hehe

But not believing CREATES the nothing

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth;
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,
Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into Hell; the third day He rose again from the dead;
He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.
Amen.

This is my spiritual self. Maybe not yours, but mine.

Peace to you and yours
Rock.

[undo11]

But not believing CREATES the nothing

not believing in the everything, creates the nothing.
i believe in the everything, not the nothing. hehe

[robomont]

ill stick with reincarnation because ive seen too much on a first person bases.
living in a small tightknit community.its easy to see.

i think some come back as animals though.not any hard evidence on that.just theory on the animal part.

there is no hard proof god exist.sounds like a new government program?

i do believe there is something just dont know what "it" is.unless its me in a future existence with time travel abilities.in which case .i apologize for screwing everybodies life up.im still learning.

[undo11]

ill stick with reincarnation because ive seen too much on a first person bases.
living in a small tightknit community.its easy to see.

i think some come back as animals though.not any hard evidence on that.just theory on the animal part.

there is no hard proof god exist.sounds like a new government program?

i do believe there is something just dont know what "it" is.unless its me in a future existence with time travel abilities.in which case .i apologize for screwing everybodies life up.im still learning.

i have a theory that we humans are quantumly entangled to our eternal bodies, and our junk dna is our book of life - like a library that contains everything about us, including each respiration, how many hairs on our heads and so on, that records all our life experiences and it is quantumly entangled with our eternal bodies as well.  when we pass on, we are then in our eternal bodies, with our life info and direct access to the big library.  the big library contains everything you ever needed to know and as a result, reincarnation is not necessary. 

[ArMaP]

i have a theory that we humans are quantumly entangled to our eternal bodies, and our junk dna is our book of life - like a library that contains everything about us, including each respiration, how many hairs on our heads and so on, that records all our life experiences and it is quantumly entangled with our eternal bodies as well.  when we pass on, we are then in our eternal bodies, with our life info and direct access to the big library.  the big library contains everything you ever needed to know and as a result, reincarnation is not necessary. 

OK, where does atheism enter in that theory?

Although I don't believe (yes, it's a belief) that there aren't any gods, because I don't see nature needing them, I don't have any thing against the possibility of eternal bodies and things like that.

[andolin]

I believe in reincarnation, But the "WHY" is the big question....Is it simply spiritual evolution. If so why the "Veil of darkness"..Even children need awareness of past errors to learn from their mistakes. Some people suggest that the Veil was not imposed by the All Source, but is imposed by ourselves and is illusionary in the 3D world. Here is an interesting artice.
http://www.vigilantforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1389&mobile=on

ACIM'S take on Reincarnation is interesting..That it doesn't exist because time is an illusion....There is no past life, because there is no past..

Andy
Andy

[1Worldwatcher]

"Atheism" is the Christian's way of nicely stereotyping those they see as 'In trouble' or 'Undesirable' because their lack of 'Acceptance' of a mind set or invisible entity.

Atheism is not a word, it is a category of people. Of which I am part of. Has nothing too do with the 'After we are gone from here' perception at all, it is all about defining one's personal interpretations as unacceptable in a world of religious believer's.

For the most part, this leave's much more awareness of my account-abilities with no one else to hold the responsibilities of my actions, thoughts or words. It is a form of an awaking for self acknowledged responsibility, and leaves no one else to hold the burden other than one's self for not knowing better, even though the action's me be acknowledged wrong by societal acceptances.

Atheism is for the Christianity Dictionary for "Racist" or "Undesirable's" and that is all it is.

For if someone judges me for being as such, doesn't this give me the right to judge them as well? You know 'Eye for and eye' or is it 'turn the other cheek'? either way, it is humorous listening to people defend their personal belief systems, because of all the Atheists I know, we have never had one disagreement within such topical discussions as to the "God is of the mind" kind of interpretation. Cut & Dry, we are all energy, and we to transgress from one energy to another, but it isn't an almighty Omnipresent entity doing this, this is 'Energy' being reconfigured too yet another form of energy.

1WW

[rdunk]

Well undo, an interesting proposition - the answer to atheism. Of course, and as you well know, the "true answer" to atheism has been presented for all of man, as Rock succinctly outlined above. And the "proof" of that has been proffered by God, in the testimony by men about God, for all to see and hear about that Answer, in the book called The Bible.

But.......at this time, and for reason, that "Answer" can only be accepted on the basis of "faith". As robomont stated above, he is looking for "hard proof", as is much of the "unbelieving world". But the simplicity of what is presented in The Bible is there for anyone who actually desires to find God, and the "hard proof" of His Answer.

You know undo, in a world of "thought", atheism is a funny thing of paradox. The Atheism "belief" actually proves that God exists, because God is the basis upon which atheism is birthed - the denying that no God exists. Without a true God, there would be no basis for anyone to say "I don't believe in God", or saying, "I don't believe there is a God!

Of course, the revelation (HARD PHYSICAL PROOF) of the Answer will be made to all of man, at a prescribed point in time..............which will certainly put an end atheism, and time will be no more.

[ArMaP]

The Atheism "belief" actually proves that God exists, because God is the basis upon which atheism is birthed - the denying that no God exists. Without a true God, there would be no basis for anyone to say "I don't believe in God", or saying, "I don't believe there is a God!

The real existence of something is irrelevant for someone believing in it or not.

If I say that I have a green cat, would you believed it? If you didn't, did that mean that there are green cats?

PS: I do not have a cat.

[robomont]

im so tempted to start a thread.if you dont believe in green cats then your gonna burn in hell.bow to the almighty green cat.