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Eric Dollard Debunks Techzombie's Suppression Hoax

Started by Amaterasu, July 25, 2013, 03:30:54 AM

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starwarp2000

Something I would like you guys to read:

QuoteFor years, I've talked about the pie chart showing the major obstacles that need to be overcome in order to bring an exotic free energy technology to market. And the take home message of that pie chart is that while suppression is indeed an element to dealt with, the most difficult obstacle by far -- more than twice that of any other obstacle, is "interpersonal conflicts" -- people can't get along with each other, inventors with eccentric personalities, ego, pride, paranoia.



QuoteOver and over again, a technology is held back for these "own worst enemy" factors -- the infighting. In my experience, over the past 11+ years of being immersed in this arena, the above pie chart is a fairly close representation of what I have observed repeatedly.

QuotePart of that is because people who are mavericks often have not developed social skills needed to get along with people. They have been outcasts of society, and hence are not social butterflies. So while the outside-the-box thinking serves very well in coming up with great ideas, it can be a show-stopper when it comes to actually getting those ideas into practical use -- a process that requires civil interaction with other human beings.

http://pureenergysystems.com/about/personnel/SterlingDAllan/index.html

So you see it's not really the suppression that is holding things back it's the interpersonal fighting. The suppression occurs while the theory is being promulgated and tries to stop the production.

Something to think about  ;) :)
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

Amaterasu

Quote from: starwarp2000 on July 27, 2013, 05:02:43 AM
Yes Am, seems like when someone has an idea, there are always 100 people waiting to exploit it, to profit from it etc.
We need your paradigm more than ever  ;) :)

Heh.  We needed it a long time ago!  But We work with what We have, eh?

Yes, the removal of profit motive will go a long way to solving most of Our issues on this planet.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: starwarp2000 on July 27, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
Something I would like you guys to read:



http://pureenergysystems.com/about/personnel/SterlingDAllan/index.html

So you see it's not really the suppression that is holding things back it's the interpersonal fighting. The suppression occurs while the theory is being promulgated and tries to stop the production.

Something to think about  ;) :)

I wonder who created that chart...  I think a great deal of the "interpersonal" issues can be chalked up to suppression.  Deliberate derailment from the goal into petty squabbles.

"Invention" seems WAY too high - many MANY inventions have been suppressed.  If I was to draw the chart based on My understandings...

Invention: 5%
Funding: 30%
Suppression: 50%
Business Steps (What IS this???): Don't know what this is. Gave no %
Interpersonal: 15%

Just sayin'.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

starwarp2000

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 27, 2013, 05:24:53 PM

QuoteI wonder who created that chart...  I think a great deal of the "interpersonal" issues can be chalked up to suppression.  Deliberate derailment from the goal into petty squabbles.

This guy Am - Sterling D Allan: http://pureenergysystems.com/about/personnel/SterlingDAllan/index.html

Quote"Invention" seems WAY too high - many MANY inventions have been suppressed.

Invention is the production of a working product from a theory. So it doesn't have to be suppressed it just doesn't work as per theory.

QuoteBusiness Steps (What IS this???): Don't know what this is. Gave no %

The steps to bring a product into viable production: The Business Plan, the Forecast etc. They give a percentage of 10%

The whole of the chart isn't to show suppression Am, it is to show that suppression is only a small part of the whole picture.
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

Back

Sorry I have to disagree :'(
I believe that suppression is a much larger part than you think.
I think Z has a thread that talks about pattents for alternate energy being taken over by the Goberrrment for national security reasions. It is out there and all it will take to blow the lid off is an un know person to come up with a cheep way and saying heck with the pattens the world needs this and get it to the world with a media bomb. With the internet it could happen. I hope that I live to see it.

Just my 2 cents
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Amaterasu

Quote from: starwarp2000 on July 27, 2013, 05:40:02 PM
The whole of the chart isn't to show suppression Am, it is to show that suppression is only a small part of the whole picture.

I understand that that was its purpose.  I claim otherwise.  That is exactly what is happening with Dollard.  Suppression takes many forms - the concerted attacks on Dollard & supporters is one avenue.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: Back on July 27, 2013, 06:01:06 PM
Sorry I have to disagree :'(
I believe that suppression is a much larger part than you think.
I think Z has a thread that talks about pattents for alternate energy being taken over by the Goberrrment for national security reasions. It is out there and all it will take to blow the lid off is an un know person to come up with a cheep way and saying heck with the pattens the world needs this and get it to the world with a media bomb. With the internet it could happen. I hope that I live to see it.

Just my 2 cents
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I agree, Back.  Suppression is WAY more than 10%.  I gave it 50% - but it might be much more.  FUNDING (or rather, lack thereof) is a good way to suppress.  Gee, Ya got something there...but We don't WANT free energy, so YOU don't get the $$$.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

starwarp2000

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Quote from: Amaterasu on July 27, 2013, 06:09:14 PM
I understand that that was its purpose.  I claim otherwise.  That is exactly what is happening with Dollard.  Suppression takes many forms - the concerted attacks on Dollard & supporters is one avenue.

You have no argument from me on that one Am!
But I was just showing the mechanisms of Suppression, like any theory it may or may not be followed by the perpetrators!
They are shrewd creatures after all  :)
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

Amaterasu

"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

deuem

The chart is missing the biggest hurtle.  I have been through this several times. Once got all the way up to trade shows with the best product on the market. Had the world wide known inventor right next to me certifing every single thing 100%. Getting the blessing from the #1 man in the field. People asked him for his autograph in his book. But, and heres the biggest part of that pie. No one bought it.....Like my Deuem program, nobody could understand it. It was at least 20 years ahead of the curve and still is today. I have hit 4 pie sections. I have never hit supression yet. It all comes down to people taking money out of their wallet and spending it. That is the final section.

My guess is that if you invent something that changes G.O.D. Gold, Oil or Drugs, you will get supressed. Everything else is ok. And it has to have a plug. Even if it is for decoration and lights up 1 LED.

Amaterasu

Quote from: deuem on July 27, 2013, 07:08:17 PM
The chart is missing the biggest hurtle.  I have been through this several times. Once got all the way up to trade shows with the best product on the market. Had the world wide known inventor right next to me certifing every single thing 100%. Getting the blessing from the #1 man in the field. People asked him for his autograph in his book. But, and heres the biggest part of that pie. No one bought it.....Like my Deuem program, nobody could understand it. It was at least 20 years ahead of the curve and still is today. I have hit 4 pie sections. I have never hit supression yet. It all comes down to people taking money out of their wallet and spending it. That is the final section.

My guess is that if you invent something that changes G.O.D. Gold, Oil or Drugs, you will get supressed. Everything else is ok. And it has to have a plug. Even if it is for decoration and lights up 1 LED.

Heh.  Free energy hits all three...
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

deuem

QuoteHeh.  Free energy hits all three...
I know, your doomed!

Our entire world has to stop using that set of words. "Free Energy" The 2 together will get you a pair of cement shoes and a visit to see some fish. Very quick!  Things can be efficent, they can be new and improved. They can save you money. many things. I like fish but I want to see them in my fish tank and not face to face without a mask and air..

If you think that Deuem might not have any gaul, I went to the PTB and asked this question. What would happen, what has happened here. They said, do you want to be fish food? Silly Deuem asked the right people and got that answer.

You can not disrupt the cycle very easy. There is too much money on the line not to take you out. Baby steps...It has to be hooked to a meter...

I actually think if we had something that was very efficent we would tend to leave the power on longer and use more start up energy. That would make them happy. The only answer I found was to be efficent. Once you break 100% your fish food. 99.99% your breathing.

Now if my AC takes 7,000kw/hr and I can do it for 2,000 that is still ok. Very efficent use of the juice. When I no longer need to plug it in I am in trouble. Fish Food.....

For free energy we need another slice of that pie, "Cement shoes"

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

#27
Starwarp has a point, and a good one.

I am, or at least was, the very paradigm of a geek.
I never communicated well with peeps, i kept myself to myself, except for occasional rebellious outbursts which eventually led me to confrontations with the police etc, and my realisation that i was not the only 'fringer'.

Then i discovered internet, and forums.
It took me 10 years of yootoob and 6 years of ATS to really get to know people :P

I devoted a lot of energy to communicating, and still do.
It pays off :D

As for that chart, there's not a partition for 'family issues' which takes up a large part of anyones time, and has even led to projects being cancelled.....
Invention is even less than 5% i reckon, most of it is copying in one form or another.
I didn't invent the silicon chip, i just use them ::) and the ways of using them are universally known by electro types, so it's a common theme shared by all, like music.

QuoteThe whole of the chart isn't to show suppression Am, it is to show that suppression is only a small part of the whole picture.

True, but a damned hard one to shift.
The worst form of supression is 'peer pressure' :P

Never having had contact with my peers, i was never under any pressure, and when i did meet them, they couldn't tell me much that was new, or explain the problems i saw in 'conventional' physics.

QuoteI agree, Back.  Suppression is WAY more than 10%.  I gave it 50% - but it might be much more.  FUNDING (or rather, lack thereof) is a good way to suppress.

I agree also, but i think the peer pressure is greatest, greater than 1 expert etc.
Funding is a problem for any project, anyone with sense would see this going 2 ways;

1) Too good to be true, so avoid it.

2) It IS true, but you will have problems with big oil from day one, so avoid it.

You see their problem?

I have nothing to lose, every dollar i have left over, is mine to gamble with. OK i'm not Richard Branson but i reckon we can get into space before he does, given the same funding :P

Quote.....Like my Deuem program, nobody could understand it. It was at least 20 years ahead of the curve and still is today.

That's the easiest form of supression, they simply don't understand it ;)

QuoteMy guess is that if you invent something that changes G.O.D. Gold, Oil or Drugs, you will get supressed. Everything else is ok. And it has to have a plug. Even if it is for decoration and lights up 1 LED.

Now there's an idea, it's why Bedini can sell 'battery chargers' that need an 'adapter' but actually supply 4 times the power to the battery ;)

The same way we would have to market a 'Transmutor' or 'super inverter' or 'water inertia drive system' rather than 'fusion reactor' or 'overunity generator' or 'alien tech inertia drive'. It's all in the name ;)
Which one would you buy?

QuoteYou can not disrupt the cycle very easy. There is too much money on the line not to take you out. Baby steps...It has to be hooked to a meter...

Yes, i call that the 'Morgan Syndrome' ::)

True enough, and peeps will realise they are getting more for their money, except the power companies will see a steady decline in use & hopefully attribute it to people being more 'energy aware', LOL

The real icing on the cake is when blackouts occur, and your lights are still on........ :P

QuoteFor free energy we need another slice of that pie, "Cement shoes"

Maybe not. It's all about timing.
When they realise the system IS failing, there ARE blackouts due to the fake 'energy crisis' then they will have no power (pun) to stop it, nor any power over peeps who-for some reason-havent used a single watt in a whole year.....

What we need to do, is release a whole wave of info, specifically the plans of these machines, at exactly the right time.

Timing is of utmost importance as i have said many times.
That time is soon, but not now.

We must keep ourselves busy with researching & refining these methods, documenting them, building them, & if we can, by selling them.

Siemens did something a few years back, they copyrighted their 'reactive dynamic braking system' on their motor controls.
In effect, they simply put DC on a set of (normally ac) coils in the motor & turned it into a generator.

This rapidly charged the cap banks in the inverter, & also braked the motor.

An old trick, but still it pushed the efficiency up by about 15-20% and it sells.....

Right now, we need to rally around Dollard, and just as important, gather every scrap of info we can find on him.
"I love it when a plan comes together"
8)


starwarp2000

July 30, 2013 - Eric Dollard Live Interview by Peter Lindemann

QuotePeter Lindemann interviews Eric Dollard about the recent presentation FOUR QUADRANT REPRESENTATION OF ELECTRICITY. Eric considers this his more comprehensive work so far. The video presentation from the conference will have a book, which will go very deep into all the subjects complete with the mathematics and other supporting science. Eric takes questions from the audience and he even addresses the recent false allegations against him and Aaron Murakami

Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

starwarp2000

August 1, 2013 - Eric Dollard interviewed by Gary Hendershot Smart Scarecrow Show

QuoteEric's interview starts at 28 minutes. discusses his latest talk and goes quite a bit into his telluric research that he doesn't often discuss. Eric also promotes his own official homepage (100% of the proceeds from the sales from that page go to Eric's work at his lab).



NOTE: Eric Dollard's OFFICIAL HOMEPAGE: No other Website represents the works of Eric P. Dollard!


http://ericpdollard.com
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley