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DOOM PORN: Fact, Fiction or Perhaps Much-needed Awareness-raising?

Started by thorfourwinds, August 11, 2013, 02:21:32 AM

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Sinny

Quote from: space otter on May 18, 2015, 04:59:50 AM
Thor

to folks who are not aware and have not heard it before it might be
labeled or even considered awareness raising
but
to anyone here I think you need to consider your audience  because you are  not just preaching to the choir but annoying the hell outta them / us
ok, me


Ha, love it!
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

WarToad

Time is the fire in which we burn.

spacemaverick

For me it is awareness raising.  Give people the information and let them decide what they do with it.  It goes along with my motto, help, guide and inform someone today.  I give my opinion but in some cases people (anywhere) just want to argure for the sake of argument which accomplishes nothing.  But at least they have the information and can't say they were not warned.  Just recently went through that very scenario (not here)....person just wanted to argue.  Debate is one thing but arguing for just the sake of argument is counter productive to me.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

petrus4

Disclaimer:-  I realise that there is a vague possibility that I may get banned for the content of this post.  I'm going to try and be as polite as possible, but there are certain things here that I feel do need to be said.  As much as I do value this place, if this post does result in the loss of my virtual head, then as Derryn Hinch used to say; "That's life.  Good night."

Quote from: space otter on May 18, 2015, 04:59:50 AM
to folks who are not aware and have not heard it before  it might be
labeled or even considered awareness raising
but
to anyone here I think  you need to consider your audience  because you are  not just preaching to the choir but annoying the hell outta them / us
ok, me

The problem is not so much even that Thor's material is annoying, as that it is irrelevant.

The formal name for this place is the Pegasus Research Consortium.  For the most part, doom porn and research are two very different things.  Thor might be able to justify making an initial post about Sandy Hook for instance, so that  once the conversation has started, the rest of us can go away and do research into the causes of Sandy Hook, and what is really going on.

In reality though, Sandy Hook and Fukushima are pure white noise, and nothing more.



The more time we spend on disasters and the various forms of distraction that the American and UK governments try to produce, the less time we're spending on genuinely empowering, solution-oriented stuff like alternative energy.  I know Thor thinks that he is helping, but from my perspective he's doing exactly the opposite.  He's actually serving the very people who he is ostensibly trying to fight against, by remaining focused on problems rather than solutions.

I want to use this place to advance our understanding of things like the mathematics of the Ancient Egyptians, which in my mind can really empower people in the here and now, as well as the alternative energy and UFO propulsion work we've done.  While we are trying to do that, Thor is basically kicking sand in our eyes.  He's pushing the truly worthwhile stuff down to the bottom of the Recent Posts list, which makes it much less likely that anyone will see it.

The other point is that as you say, it isn't raising awareness at all.  If I want to hear for the millionth time about how the world is going to end, then I can get that from Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, Before It's News, or any one of a thousand other places.   So it isn't original information.  We're already aware of everything that the cabal wants us to be aware of.  We've received the message that we should be in a state of mindless terror and despair, literally every second.  Given the degree to which it saturates the airwaves, how could we possibly not be?

QuoteI personally value YOUR words and I don't think they need such backing up with all the other stuff.. they kinda get lost in the rubble of all the rhetorical

your opinion or personal statements of belief , I feel, would get you more participation in stead of condemnation.

Exactly.  Thor, my point here really is not to simply verbally bash you for the hell of it.  I just want you to start posting material that is genuinely constructive, rather than becoming indignant when people point out that what you're posting at the moment, is the opposite.

I want Pegasus to be unique.  I don't want this place to be full of the same crap that I can get from ATS, or Alex Jones, or wherever else.  There are already far too many places where I can go if I want that.  To the extent that I come here, I do so because I want something else.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

zorgon

Quote from: petrus4 on May 23, 2015, 03:43:43 AM
Disclaimer:-  I realise that there is a vague possibility that I may get banned for the content of this post.

LOL a self ban  I LIKE IT :P

zorgon

Quote from: petrus4 on May 23, 2015, 03:43:43 AM

The formal name for this place is the Pegasus Research Consortium.  For the most part, doom porn and research are two very different things.

The Research is on the website  THIS is merely a forum where people talk about what matters to THEM  Like your rants matter to YOU and are likely annoying to most others too :P


QuoteIn reality though, Sandy Hook and Fukushima are pure white noise, and nothing more.

Snady Hook I am not sure about as I stopped following that a long time ago. But if you think Fukushima  is white noise you need to change your name to Herr Ostrich :P


QuoteThe more time we spend on disasters and the various forms of distraction that the American and UK governments try to produce, the less time we're spending on genuinely empowering, solution-oriented stuff like alternative energy.

We tried that  the alternative energy research  First time was when Matyas created the Pegasus Alternative Energy group at Yahoo. The only person still posting their is the crazy Doctor that had the fusion generator.  The Second time was when I gave PWM webspace and full support because I though he really had something. only to find he still worked for the Sea Hag and his only mission was to destroy... which he was successful at

So there are no alternative energy researchers left at Pegasus  Between Linda's crew and PWM's crew they wiped that out

Beside EG is a dead ens and NO ONE has yet shown any real progress on ANY free energy project. No it's NOT 'da gubment' suppressing anything... it is the fact that no one has a clue yet

QuoteI know Thor thinks that he is helping, but from my perspective he's doing exactly the opposite.  He's actually serving the very people who he is ostensibly trying to fight against, by remaining focused on problems rather than solutions.

There is no solution for Fukushima  so there is no point focusing on a solution. We do not have the technology and there will be no GFL Aliens to clean it up for us

Now as I recall YOU were the biggest purveyor of Gloom and Doom on this site. You even started your own forum because we were tired of it.  Just recently I posted a thread on DRAGONS  for those people interested in DRAGONS  YOU felt the nee to come into that thread and rant about how you hate dragons   

And yet here you are calling the Kettle black....

How about THIS solution? If you don't like a topic  STAY THE FVCK OUT of the room. You are not obligated to engage. Silence is Golden :P

continued....


zorgon

QuoteI want to use this place to advance our understanding of things like the mathematics of the Ancient Egyptians, which in my mind can really empower people in the here and now, as well as the alternative energy and UFO propulsion work we've done.

Then DO so  show us your Egyptian posts  As for alternative energy and UFO propulsion... forget about it because there are no engineers left thanks to certain peeps


QuoteWhile we are trying to do that, Thor is basically kicking sand in our eyes.  He's pushing the truly worthwhile stuff down to the bottom of the Recent Posts list, which makes it much less likely that anyone will see it.

Would you like a LIST of how many posts you have made that disrupt the topic of a thread with your personal rhetoric and opinions (usually negative)? Does it occur to you that I don't give a Rat's Ass that you hate Dragons  when I am a Knight of the Order of the Red Dragon? In fact I think I will delete that post now It is disruptive to the intent of that thread :P

Do you know how many DAYS I spend babysitting here when I could be using that time to revamp the website which takes a LOT of time?  Do you know how many people here have submitted ONE GOOD ARTICLE to that website since Jack passed away?


QuoteThe other point is that as you say, it isn't raising awareness at all.  If I want to hear for the millionth time about how the world is going to end, then I can get that from Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, Before It's News, or any one of a thousand other places.   So it isn't original information.  We're already aware of everything that the cabal wants us to be aware of.  We've received the message that we should be in a state of mindless terror and despair, literally every second.  Given the degree to which it saturates the airwaves, how could we possibly not be?

Actually the ONLY thing you are aware of is twisted internet conspiracies by people who THINK they know what is going on and those people would not know TRUTH if it bit them in the ASS  90% of what is posted on the web is false news and people's BELIEF of what is going on. Show tem truth and you are a disinfo agent

Fire retardant tankers are Chemtrail plane  LOL  NASA floating orb cameras are OBVIOUSLY Alien Spacecraft that are being covered up.

If you don't like it  STOP engaging  Focus ONLY on making good posts about Egyptians  Turn OFF the recent post list (or I might remove it all together because you people cannot seem to show restraint :P

continued in a minute Need to take daughter to work

zorgon

Quote from: petrus4 on May 23, 2015, 03:43:43 AM
Exactly.  Thor, my point here really is not to simply verbally bash you for the hell of it.

And yet... here you are doing exactly that. You COULD have used a PM  instead of the public forum


QuoteI just want you to start posting material that is genuinely constructive, rather than becoming indignant when people point out that what you're posting at the moment, is the opposite.

Practise what you preach. I see nothing constructive in this post  Just a rant.

QuoteI want Pegasus to be unique.  I don't want this place to be full of the same crap that I can get from ATS, or Alex Jones, or wherever else.  There are already far too many places where I can go if I want that.  To the extent that I come here, I do so because I want something else.

Then I suggest you lead by example. Start posting ONLY constructive posts on good topics  If you need a crutch to keep you on the path, I can have the mods delete any posts where you wander :P

SerpUkhovian

Quote(or I might remove it all together because you people cannot seem to show restraint)

Don't remove the resent post list; I like it.
Have you noticed since everyone has a cell phone these days no one talks about seeing UFOs like they used to?

zorgon

Nah I won't :P but people need to remember that the forum menu also has NEW buttons for each topic

I wish we had a subscribe thread option though

You can also block topics in your profile

Sinny

Although I generally agree with Petrus in most instances, I am opposed to his (your, when you read this) opinion on Thors posts.

We do get some crap posted over here, but Thors not the culprit :P
I think as a forum, 'we' have lost identity. Sorta.
Most the posting members are staff, I suppose we are a small and familiar group.

Lead by example..


P.s, I think your statements regaring PWM are not wholly accurate Z.
Fruitbat was and still is the Linda 'spy' ..
PWM just got caught in the cross fire and had suffered a lapse in judgment.
Which is unfortunate.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

zorgon

Quote from: Sinny on May 23, 2015, 10:57:22 PM
Most the posting members are staff, I suppose we are a small and familiar group.

Mostly because after three Drama Operas in a row most people have left :P And I haven't been recruiting


QuoteP.s, I think your statements regaring PWM are not wholly accurate Z.

How so? He was given full access with FTP space on my personal server. He was given full control over his IG group. He claimed to have serious projects in the works.  You were not copied on the nasty letters he sent to staff that got his account deleted. 

He did deleted ALL the files on the server and many of the threads in IG  A thing Sgt WARNED staff about and RECOMMENDED action, for which RECOMMENDATION Sgt was banned

PWM was given repeated chances to cease and desist  He chose to escalate instead and threaten staff with physical harm

End of story Account deleted

QuoteFruitbat was and still is the Linda 'spy' ..

Fruitbat made comments on her forum... He then sent an email to me via PWM (yet my email has never changed and is posted as webmaster all over the website. He COULD have written me directly I am sure Linda still has my email :P

He mentioned he had a sock puppet here  So I answered his email via PM to the sock puppet and told PWM that I had done this  Since then no reply

I am done with those idgits  sorry if that seems harsh I just don't have the time nor the inclination

QuotePWM just got caught in the cross fire and had suffered a lapse in judgment.
Which is unfortunate.


BULL SHIt it was al espaliaed to him in detail and it all happened in my absense On return they decided NOT to give me time to see what was what and he started deleting works, many of them were MY files that I had added to IG

But he now has the Fusion reactor from Pegasus's mad doctor (thanks to you and fruitbat I am told) and the Pegasus Yahoo group is dead... so its all a moot point.

In any case any real scientist that did join the group was soon put off by the loonies and left. Same thing happened at JLN Labs forum and the Radient Energy Forum...  I wonder if Elizabeth Helen Drake was also lurking at those two :P


WarToad

Quote from: WarToad on May 22, 2015, 07:21:53 PM
T-6 days.

Quotea massive 9.8 earthquake will hit California at 4pm local time on 28 May.

D-Day today.  The prediction is for 4pm local time (California)

/popcorn

and on the extreme outside chance it actually happens -

/p  o o o o  p  c  O  r  Nnnnn
Time is the fire in which we burn.

Dyna

Quote from: WarToad on May 28, 2015, 04:21:04 PM
D-Day today.  The prediction is for 4pm local time (California)

/popcorn

and on the extreme outside chance it actually happens -

/p  o o o o  p  c  O  r  Nnnnn
Well as you enjoy your popcorn, we here on the coast in Ca will be not much enjoying our poppers stopped for good!!  :(

That said, out of the many many dream, psychic predictions and prophecies that have come around with dates and/or times all have failed.. each and everyone so although we do have a bug out bag I am not in the least worried! :)
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

Pimander

Quote from: Dyna on May 28, 2015, 09:26:20 PM
That said, out of the many many dream, psychic predictions and prophecies that have come around with dates and/or times all have failed.. each and everyone so although we do have a bug out bag I am not in the least worried! :)
Yep, definitely not awareness raising. Not worried! :)