Martial Law to be called on or about October first

[sky otter]

and you only put as much cash in the bank to pay the current bills..the rest goes in the tin can buried under the rock in the garden..the digging can always be explained..lol



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/us/as-worries-over-the-power-grid-rise-a-drill-will-simulate-a-knockout-blow.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

As Worries Over the Power Grid Rise, a Drill Will Simulate a Knockout Blow


By MATTHEW L. WALD
Published: August 16, 2013

WASHINGTON — The electric grid, as government and private experts describe it, is the glass jaw of American industry. If an adversary lands a knockout blow, they fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11.

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.This is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyberattacks that could take down large sections of the power grid.

They will practice for a crisis unlike anything the real grid has ever seen, and more than 150 companies and organizations have signed up to participate.

"This is different from a hurricane that hits X, Y and Z counties in the Southeast and they have a loss of power for three or four days," said the official in charge of the drill, Brian M. Harrell of the North American Electric Reliability Corporation, known as NERC. "We really want to go beyond that."

One goal of the drill, called GridEx II, is to explore how governments would react as the loss of the grid crippled the supply chain for everyday necessities.

"If we fail at electricity, we're going to fail miserably," Curt Hébert, a former chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, said at a recent conference held by the Bipartisan Policy Center.

Mr. Harrell said that previous exercises were based on the expectation that electricity "would be up and running relatively quick" after an attack.

Now, he said, the goal is to "educate the federal government on what their expectations should or shouldn't be." The industry held a smaller exercise two years ago in which 75 utilities, companies and agencies participated, but this one will be vastly expanded and will be carried out in a more anxious mood.

Most of the participants will join the exercise from their workplaces, with NERC, in Washington, announcing successive failures. One example, organizers say, is a substation break-in that officials initially think is an attempt to steal copper. But instead, the intruder uses a USB drive to upload a virus into a computer network.

The drill is part of a give-and-take in the past few years between the government and utilities that has exposed the difficulties of securing the electric system.

The grid is essential for almost everything, but it is mostly controlled by investor-owned companies or municipal or regional agencies. Ninety-nine percent of military facilities rely on commercial power, according to the White House.

The utilities play down their abilities, in comparison with the government's. "They have the intelligence operation, the standing army, the three-letter agencies," said Scott Aaronson, senior director of national security policy at the Edison Electric Institute, the trade association of investor-owned utilities. "We have the grid operations expertise."

That expertise involves running 5,800 major power plants and 450,000 miles of high-voltage transmission lines, monitored and controlled by a staggering mix of devices installed over decades. Some utilities use their own antique computer protocols and are probably safe from hacking — what the industry calls "security through obscurity."

But others rely on Windows-based control systems that are common to many industries. Some of them run on in-house networks, but computer security experts say they are not confident that all the connections to the public Internet have been discovered and secured. Many may be vulnerable to software — known as malware — that can disable the systems or destroy their ability to communicate, leaving their human operators blind about the positions of switches, the flows of current and other critical parameters. Experts say a sophisticated hacker could also damage hard-to-replace equipment.

In an effort to draw utilities and the government closer, the industry recently established the Electricity Sub-Sector Coordinating Council, made up of high-level executives, to meet with federal officials. The first session is next month.

Preparation for the November drill comes as Congress is debating laws that could impose new standards to protect the grid from cyberattacks, but many in the industry, some of whom would like such rules, doubt that they can pass.

The drill is also being planned as conferences, studies and even works of fiction are raising near-apocalyptic visions of catastrophes involving the grid.

A National Academy of Sciences report last year said that terrorists could cause broad hardship for months with physical attacks on hard-to-replace components. An emerging effort led in part by R. James Woolsey, a former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, is gearing up to pressure state legislatures to force utilities to protect equipment against an electromagnetic pulse, which could come from solar activity or be caused by small nuclear weapons exploded at low altitude, frying crucial components.

An attack using an electromagnetic pulse is laid out in extensive detail in the novel "One Second After," published in 2009 and endorsed by Newt Gingrich. In another novel, "Gridlock," published this summer and co-written by Byron L. Dorgan, the former senator from North Dakota, a rogue Russian agent working for Venezuela and Iran helps hackers threaten the grid. In the preface, Mr. Dorgan says such an attack could cause 10,000 times as much devastation as the terrorists' strikes on Sept. 11, 2001.

Despite the growing anxiety, the government and the private sector have had trouble coordinating their grid protection efforts. The utility industry argues that the government has extensive information on threats but keeps it classified. Government officials concede the problem, and they have suggested that some utility executives get security clearances. But with hundreds of utilities and thousands of executives, it cannot issue such clearances fast enough. And the industry would like to be instantly warned when the government identifies Internet servers that are known to be sources of malware.

Another problem is that the electric system is so tightly integrated that a collapse in one spot, whether by error or intent, can set off a cascade, as happened in August 2003, when a power failure took a few moments to spread from Detroit to New York.

Sometimes utility engineers and law enforcement officials also seem to speak different languages. In his book "Protecting Industrial Control Systems From Electronic Threats," Joseph Weiss, an engineer and cybersecurity expert, recounted a meeting between electrical engineers and the F.B.I. in 2008. When an F.B.I. official spoke at length about I.E.D.'s, he was referring to improvised explosive devices, but to the engineers the abbreviation meant intelligent electronic devices.

And experts fear government-sponsored hacking. Michael V. Hayden, another former C.I.A. director, speaking at the Bipartisan Policy Center conference, said that the Stuxnet virus, which disabled some of Iran's centrifuges for enriching uranium, might invite retaliation.

"In a time of peace, someone just used a cyberweapon to destroy another nation's critical infrastructure," he said. "Ouch."


A version of this article appears in print on August 17, 2013, on page A11 of the New York edition with the headline: As Worries Over the Power Grid Rise, a Drill Will Simulate a Knockout Blow..

[sky otter]

you want more??.. let me know..cause it seems to be coming out of the walls now




http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/08/whats-really-behind-the-rumor-that-dhs-is-bringing-15000-russian-soldiers-onto-u-s-soil/


What's Really Behind the Rumor That DHS Is Bringing '15,000 Russian Soldiers' Onto U.S. Soil?
Jul. 8, 2013 5:15pm Liz Klimas

With headlines like "DHS: Napolitano Is Bringing 15,000 Russian Troops to the U.S." and others following similar suit, you might be wondering what is going on here.
It turns out, a whole lot of rumor.

The rumor mill had been churning out that "15,000 Russian soldiers trained in disaster relief and 'crowd functions' [i.e. riot control be pre-positioned to FEMA Region III during an unspecified upcoming disaster."

Snopes, a website whose mission it is to correct misinformation, called such claims "alarmist, far-fetched interpretation of the original announcement, which said nothing about Russia's providing security for events taking place within the U.S."

The announcement that spurred this rumor was about the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry and the U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, agreeing to "exchange experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters." This agreement was made last month and is said to be a renewable of an already held partnership.

According to the Russian government website, the U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission Working Group on Emergency Situations created a protocol "for expert cooperation in disaster response operations and to study the latest practices."

The Russian News agency Ria Novosti further dunked the rumor, saying last week it confirmed with a FEMA spokesman that there would be "no exchange of security or military personnel."

"The agreement continues information-sharing meetings and observation opportunities with first responders and emergency managers," the spokesman said, according to Ria Novosti.





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and while I do not consider rense a good source..even he is showing it a joke.. this is only a piece of his stuff but I especially liked this first paragraph



http://www.rense.com/general96/priceoftreason.html

Retired South Dakota State Senator Songstad" turns out to be an ex-government representative who runs a camera shop in a small town. He has never had any background in any of what he talks about. His active role in government ended over twenty years ago. Next up in the video is the supposed training that will be completed on October first for the newly armed forces. Nero's Amerikan armed force will supposedly surpass the number of troops that the entire US military currently has (just over 2 million troops ­ mostly overseas).







First it is important to note that having heavy weapons and uniforms does not a fighting combat-soldier make. Russia's troops are battle-hardened and their troops are conditioned to survive the elimination of officers and NCOs' alike; to be able to continue to fight.

Amerika's homeland security forces are exactly the opposite. If their "leaders" are taken-out they will fall apart like baskets of leaves in an autumn Hurricane ­ because these children have no personal skills and no combat experience. Nero is trying to convince Americans that the feral government has successfully created a huge military force in just a few months to replace, in America, the over two million troops we already have. That is flat out lie. They have used the DHS purchases of weapons, bullets and equipment to convince the militarily-illiterate enslaved public that we will be wiped out against their overwhelming military odds. This is an even larger-fantasy. Their military-projections have not addressed any facet of their promised treasonous-force which would be needed to totally subdue the American public!

In fact the truth may be that what Nero has armed might rebel and turn their weapons against the criminals in this sham government that Israel now owns lock-stock & barrel. Rumors of Russian or Chinese troops training in Amerika to take-over America are pure fantasy! The public that buys into this only does so because of the left-over red-scare from the days of the USSR that was activated during the cold war.

Today's Russian forces are trying to keep the world from being forced into a Third World War and China is with Russia ­ all of which is conveniently left out by the Warmongers-of-September in the Jewnited States of Israel.

The Roman-numerals of FEMA regions are real. The North American Union is real. The UN was given the entire US 5th Army to control the entire northwestern US, (20,000 US troops). But twenty-thousand troops even with the other supposedly 385,000 raw recruits is nothing in the grand scheme of things ­ especially given the size and diversity of this continent ­ not to mention the over 2 million guns this country has: Most of which are in the hands of people who know how to use them. All that has been missing is the will to do so and it is that which Nero is trying everything to force Americans to do - so they can openly declare the real-WAR they just can't wait to start.

Here's a video that helped spread some of the rumors:

[rdunk]

Just my thoughts on this subject, - the best reason I think for this to be a "nothing subject" is..................we the people are too well prepared with weapons and ammo, for self defense, that there is no way this such could successfully be accomplished - obviously in my opinion. There are many millions of Americans who would quickly recognize "martial law" for what it is, and combat it directly.

The 2 million bikers (whatever the real number actually was) to Washington DC is just a "drop in the bucket" for the number of Americans all over this country, who are ready and willing to do whatever is necessary to defeat an illegal inside attack upon this country. And, I am certain this is a well known fact, including up to and including the POTUS.


If such were to take place, the people of this country would solidly unite so fast, the opposition would not stand a chance. And additionally, our military soldiers and airmen who volonteer to serve, volunteer to serve to fight for us and our country. Most of them would not support and would fight against any such dictatorial take-over attempt.

Things are already beginning to take place, toward righting this great country. The successful Colorado State Congressional "recalls" is one of the early examples of this happening. And we are going to begin to see similar recalls and/or the voting box taking out elected officials similarly, because of horrible representation.

Our being ready for any emergency is just good common sense, but I do not expect to see this happening, as it would be a pretty dumb move!!

And in support of my comments, here is 3 year old a video with over 10 million watches that speaks well to the heart-felt views of many of the people of our nation!! The major points presented by the video are very obviously more poignant today, than even in 2010


                                                                                                         

[robomont]

on the recall subject.i believe the local media does not have the influence it use to have.the internet is taking control away from tptb.ie.the tea party scares the hell out of them.im very curious if tptb try to hijack it.if they do it will happen through rand for sure.his spine keeps softening.and the msm has really been showing cruz so much that now im worried hes in with them.looking forward to nov 2

[petrus4]

ya know i really am getting tired of you gloom and doomers who only get your exercise from jumping to conclusions and
NOT DOING ANYTHING TO SEE IF THIS BULLSHI T IS TRUE

Agreed.  The fact that this sort of garbage is pretty much the only thing that gets posted any more, is the reason why I hardly ever check back here, any more.  I'm sick of it.  I'm especially sick of the fact that if anything is said in opposition to it, those who want to keep wallowing in, and spewing this crap, insist that they have some sort of moral duty to perpetuate it as much as possible, and that in fact, I'm the bad guy for daring to say anything.

Amy, I've waited a long time to say this, because I really do not want to cause conflict between you and me, but I'm going to say it now.

You are not going to get TAP, by focusing, constantly, incessantly, and exclusively, on its' diametric opposite.

TAP is not going to come about, as a result of you fixating on information about when the American government is going to introduce martial law.  TAP is not going to come about, as a result of you promoting minute-by-minute information about what the Lizard Hearted are doing.  That will not produce the result that you say you want.  It will produce, as mentioned, the direct opposite.

The other thing that makes this material even more tedious, as Otter has mentioned, is the fact that it is virtually never verifiably true.  There have been rumours and false reports of FEMA camps opening, and a takeover of America by foreign troops, for at least 25 years now.  As a result of this, if you post any information, which is not traceable to any source other than the Web sites of shell shocked Vietnam veterans, then you are wasting everyone's time.

To dispense with a few of your other usual sources, I am also going to definitively say this:-

Benjamin Fulford is a crank.  I'm talking a Sorcha Faal level crank, here.  Nothing he has ever said, that I have seen, is verifiable.  We need to stop making excuses for him.  The man is full of crap, full stop.

Alex Jones is also a sensationalistic crank, who virtually never performs due diligence, and who works himself into screaming fits over things which never end up happening.

Stop listening to these people, stop taking them seriously, and stop wasting other people's bandwidth with their rubbish.  We need to demand a much higher standard from ourselves.  Stories need to be verifiable from at least 3-4 different sources, and ideally, we need to be able to verify individual details from each story from as many different sources as possible, as well.

I am not an arbitrary skeptic.  I have never been; but at the same time, I do not advocate a complete lack of rigour, either.  Pull your socks up, and start making sure that what you post, has at least some vague possibility of being the actual truth, rather than just spraying it everywhere because it looks sensationalistic. 

Most of the Fukushima stuff that I've been able to track down has generally ended up being either complete garbage, or at least severely exaggerated, as well.  I have had enough.

[robomont]

i like amys possitive attitude.i like that she dares to go where we do not and dream.for it is our dreams that leads to a future reality .a reality that may be my grandchildrens.
tap may have a future we are to small minded to accept at this time.
just a theory.hell amy may be smarter than the rest of us combined.

yes doom porn is out there.i admit i get sucked in sometimes but more often i look for links due to habits ive picked up from yall.i sometimes think we all need each other .to keep our minds sharp and on our toes.

[petrus4]

i like amys possitive attitude.i like that she dares to go where we do not and dream.for it is our dreams that leads to a future reality .a reality that may be my grandchildrens.
tap may have a future we are to small minded to accept at this time.
just a theory.hell amy may be smarter than the rest of us combined.

I like that as well, robo.  Amy has always been a kindred spirit of mine, here.  My intent was not to attack her, but to point out that if we want TAP, we need to focus on TAP; not the Georgia Guidestones scenario which would lead us in the other direction.

I think TAP is actually coming.  There are things which continue to happen, which are actually conducive to TAP's adoption and implementation.  I just want to encourage Amy to maybe try focusing a little more on those, rather than on all of the negative stuff that is going on; as much for her own sanity, as for ours.

I know people are going to think this; that my intent with Amy was negative, and vicious, but it wasn't.  I've watched her on Twitter at times, though; and the message isn't so much about TAP now.  It's just all about the evil stuff that the government is doing.  It has honestly scared me; as though said governmental depravity has even managed to destroy her own optimism.

I don't want that to happen.  I don't want it to happen to any of us.  I know how black things are in America right now; I know it just as well as any of you, and maybe better than some.

All I am asking you to do, however, is not to give in to complete despair.  Don't focus continually on how bad everything is.  Look for the good; look for light.  Look for people trying to do what they can to drive back the darkness.  It is there...if you look for it.

[robomont]

yes i too have dark days.you are right  to look for the light.

[Eighthman]

Sadly, I must agree about Fulford, Zap and others.  We keep seeking hope and getting disappointed.

I will say that every time I read Wilcock's latest book promotion, I learn something new, that I had never heard of.  Still, here we are.

In some circumstances, we are left with choosing between crazy or just insane - as with the 'Ghost' cities that China has built.  Did they actually build cities for a half million people a pop (that no one lives in), just because they got carried away?  Or is it really preparation for Alien refugees come to live on earth?

I still wanna know, is there any time limit built into any secret treaty with aliens? Like 2015?

I'm feelin' a lot like my fundamentalist past here.  Armageddon is close but never shows up.

[petrus4]

On the other hand, maybe the OP is right.  I just found this on GLP.

http://www.politico.com/playbook/0913/playbook11706.html

SHUTDOWN COUNTDOWN: 10 days -- ALAN GREENSPAN WARNS: 'no viable long-term solution to our badly warped economy' without fixing political system -- WHITE HOUSE SIGNALS Janet Yellen nomination coming

So perhaps October finally will be the month when it all happens...or perhaps not.

Time will tell.

[Sinny]

ya know i really am getting tired of you gloom and doomers who only get your exercise from jumping to conclusions and
NOT DOING ANYTHING TO SEE IF THIS BULLSHI T IS TRUE

DAMN IT>> DO YOUR FRIGGIN HOMEWORK before passing on stupid stuff


the fact that i am getting annoyed at the stupidity tells me it's time to walk away and do something else

really tired of having to roll up my pant legs to read here....silly pilgrims.. you are not helping  with this stuff




http://theothermccain.com/2013/07/06/are-we-paranoid-enough-obamas-fema-russia-protocols-raise-serious-questions/

We have zero official sources for this

By the way, how can I be so sure this EU Times story is bullshi t?



Here, so far as I can tell, the "official sources" trail goes cold, because apparently Jess Bratton was on vacation or something and the FEMA Web site doesn't say a word about this meeting. Go search their site.

From the Russian source, we have news of yet another "protocol" agreement that involves "exchang[ing] experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters" and "U.S.-Russian cooperation . . . in 2013-2014? to include "provision of security at mass events."

Not a word in there about 15,000 Russian troops, though.

Where did that come from? So far as I can tell (and this is linked in Lisa Jennings' ViralRead article) the earliest mention of this is at a site called the European Union Times on June 27:

An unsettling report prepared by the Emergencies Ministry (EMERCOM) circulating in the Kremlin today on the just completed talks between Russia and the United States in Washington D.C. says that the Obama regime has requested at least 15,000 Russian troops trained in disaster relief and "crowd functions" [i.e. riot control] be pre-positioned to respond to FEMA Region III during an unspecified "upcoming" disaster.
According to this report, this unprecedented request was made directly to Minister Vladimir Puchkov by US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Director Janet Napolitano who said these Russian troops would work "directly and jointly" with her Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), part of whose mission is to secure the continuity of the US government in the event of natural disasters or war. . . .

That article is bullpoop, so far as I can tell. It links to a seemingly legitimate Russian news site's report about the U.S.-Russian meeting, but that article says nothing at all about a report "circulating in the Kremlin" or Janet Napolitano requesting 15,000 Russian troops.  The EU Times (bullpoop) article also says this:

FEMA Region III, the area Russian troops are being requested for, includes Washington D.C. and the surrounding States of Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, "strongly suggesting" that the Obama regime has lost confidence in its own military being able to secure its survival should it be called upon to do so.

We have zero official sources for this, and good luck finding any mainstream news organization — Associated Press, Washington Post, Reuters, etc. — that has even taken notice of the June 25 U.S.-Russian meeting which (a) we know actually happened, based on a statement from the Russian agency, but which (b) apparently wasn't considered important enough to merit a press release from FEMA.

By the way, how can I be so sure this EU Times story is bullpoop? Because if you keep reading, it goes off into a bunch of paranoid stuff about Edward Snowden and Michael Hastings, a problem that I tried to warn people about weeks ago (see "Hope, Fear and Michael Hastings," The American Spectator, June 21).

You've got emotionally disturbed hysterics like Glenn Greenwald deliberately stoking the flames beneath a boiling cauldron of paranoia — and being treated like serious journalists for so doing — yet it is impossible to say that any particular far-fetched fear is unfounded, because what we were promised would be "the most transparent administration in history" is in fact so opaque that everything they do looks like a conspiratorial cover-up.

(Incidentally, the White House press office still has not replied to my requests for information about the Benghazi attack.)

Fear and Loathing have become so pervasive, as I noted last week, that some people are starting to take Barrett Brown seriously. In this kind of paranoid environment, it becomes difficult for people to distinguish real threats from imaginary dangers. If a Web site says Janet Napolitano has requested 15,000 Russian troops to defend the D.C. region because "the Obama regime has lost confidence in its own military being able to secure its survival" — well, yeah, it sounds crazy, but how do we know it's not actually true? Crazier things happen every day in the Obama Age.

Whilst I admire your fact checking skills, I feel the level of your anger is unjustified. The OP led to it's own debunking, therefore, it wasn't a worthless endeavor

[Amaterasu]

Petrus,


There is a difference between finding something of interest that may raise awareness of the depth of the doodoo We are in - and FOCUSING on it.  [smile]

My FOCUS is on spreading awareness of a SOLUTION, but most here have heard it before and then I am labeled (somewhat in jest, I hope) a "spammer" if I bring it up.

So I offer the speculation and thoughts on things that may or may not end up [truthful, important].   (You may note that in Kevin's piece, He DID say that there was no corroborating evidence on the 15,000 Russian troops and to make of that piece of info what You will.)

[petrus4]

My FOCUS is on spreading awareness of a SOLUTION, but most here have heard it before and then I am labeled (somewhat in jest, I hope) a "spammer" if I bring it up.

I see your point, there.  I hope I haven't alienated you completely. *hugs*

[sky otter]

I feel the level of your anger is unjustified

not anger..i don't do anger any more 

just a day where i got pissed off at a waste of time taken to debunk bullshi t
from smart folk who really are normally above being taken in

[Amaterasu]

I see your point, there.  I hope I haven't alienated you completely. *hugs*

[hugs!]  You'll not alienate Me, Petrus.  I adore You!