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Started by Amaterasu, September 29, 2013, 01:00:58 AM

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deuem

If a person is wasted from birth, to change thet is almost impossible. I don't know how free energy will take away breeding problems or most types of education. Electricity is a problem but not the number one problem. I would love free electricity. yea leave the AC on 24/7 In a way that would make me even more lazy than I am now. The real problem is what other people do with the power money, Not the power grid. When power is free then the person who sells wheat will be in control. I want my beer. Then the fridge people will be next because I like it cold.

Here they recently passed some new laws on education like the states. Every child must get one and it is free of charge through the 9th grade. They even feed them breakfast at school ( we pay for that )

I have done my share of research here on breedind and also breading ( hey it was early for Deuem ). Seems that only a few generations ago, no one kept track of who was who. What families married who? They have been doing that now with family books and tracking relatives so no more in-breeding takes place. So now the men have to leave their area to get a wife and then return while the women leave for good when married. So the gene pool is now being spread out. Having very strong family ties it is very east to find entire villages of the same family. Hundreds to thousands of relatives in the same place.

At home we just take this for granted because of all the different groups of people blended into one country. Most countries are not like the US. When I walk around here, everyone looks at me as being way out of place. All I see is Chinese. In the states I see everyone.

By the way, in the 13 years I have been here, electricity costs have stayed the same. It is a goberment company and regulated so the poor can afford it. I pay 1 rmb per Kv = to 1USD per 6kv. It has been the only constand over the years. i don't know how they do it but they do.. The minimum wage in that time has more than trippled.

Deuem

petrus4

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Quote from: Phedre on September 30, 2013, 12:58:19 AM
One thing that concerns me also, some have voiced this before me. Is the fact that somehow we need to overcome the vast "corruption" that we are experiencing currently, to even have a chance at what could be a "glorious" future.  :)

Doing that would be relatively easy, at least in principle.  Devise a working means of diagnosing the psychopaths, and make sure that every infant is checked at birth.  All those found with neurological psychopathy would either be raised in isolation and incarcerated for life, or euthanised, depending on which was believed to be the more humane option.

That would be the temporary solution.  The more permanent solution would be to include knowledge of the psychological vulnerabilities which Hitler documented in Mein Kampf, as part of the education.  Children or teenagers of an appropriate age would be taught about these pathological elements, and thus also how to psychologically innoculate themselves, by recognising when said tactics were being employed against them. 

As a result of this, and with the gradual transition of the energetic environment to almost exclusively the Service to Others polarity, eventually Service to Self polarised individuals (the Lizard Hearted, or psychopaths) would cease incarnating here entirely, because they would have no audience that would be receptive to their power manipulation games.

An integral part of the education process would also necessarily include teaching every individual to have inherent faith in themselves and their abilities.  If we ever wish to free ourselves from the need for government, self-confidence must become universal.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
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petrus4

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Quote from: deuem on September 30, 2013, 01:33:36 AM

The state of a person depends on breading and education. Meaning in-or poor breading and no education brings a person down to the function of life and is a drain on society.

The more we learn about genetics, the less important it becomes.  Education and an avoidance of psychological trauma during formative age, is much more significant than the genetic profile at birth.

"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Amaterasu

Quote from: petrus4 on September 30, 2013, 02:42:28 AM
I am not disagreeing with you, Amy.  Or let me put it another way.  I agree with Zorgon in the sense that, to a certain extent, according to my own observation, the caste is inherent; but where he and I disagree, is that I believe that it is undesirable, and an attempt should be made to transcend it, if it is possible.

Then again, if the scriptures are true, it is not the caste itself which is at fault; it is our corrupt, and incorrect implementation of it.

I disagree that it is "inherent."  In early societies, "primitive" ones, often is seen respect for all tasks performed, all Human meaningful energy expended was respected, and there was no caste.  When the idea of money was corrupted by the love of it, and taken advantage of by the psychopaths which it promotes, THEY began promoting castes.  It divided and helped conquer.

And if all One is taught is that system, it is a struggle to remove Oneself and ask if it is natural.  It is not.  What IS natural is willingness to help solve problems, and stigmergic interaction.  Money systems have yoked Humanity for a very long time, with psychopaths ruling.

I cannot see any "correct" application of it, and suspect that was added in to reinforce that notion in the sheep.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

petrus4

Quote from: Amaterasu on September 30, 2013, 03:35:11 AM
I disagree that it is "inherent."  In early societies, "primitive" ones, often is seen respect for all tasks performed, all Human meaningful energy expended was respected, and there was no caste.

I know of no indigenous society that had no chief, however; irrespective of how limited the role in individual cases might have been.  To that extent at least, social hierarchy exists among some types of animals, as well.

QuoteWhen the idea of money was corrupted by the love of it, and taken advantage of by the psychopaths which it promotes, THEY began promoting castes.  It divided and helped conquer.

I will agree with this where stationary, agricultural societies are concerned, yes; and of course, it grew out and progressed from there.

QuoteAnd if all One is taught is that system, it is a struggle to remove Oneself and ask if it is natural.  It is not.  What IS natural is willingness to help solve problems, and stigmergic interaction.  Money systems have yoked Humanity for a very long time, with psychopaths ruling.

Again, I can agree with this.  I have observed that Capitalism's dominance has been primarily due to the willingness of its' advocates, to murder those who practiced different systems.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Amaterasu

Quote from: petrus4 on September 30, 2013, 04:28:00 AM
I know of no indigenous society that had no chief, however; irrespective of how limited the role in individual cases might have been.  To that extent at least, social hierarchy exists among some types of animals, as well.

True, but in such cases, the leader was most respected, but was not "above," per se, the rest.  It was less a hierarchic structure, like a caste, as it was the stigmergic emergence of the leaders.
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ArMaP

Quote from: undo11 on September 30, 2013, 02:29:08 AM
we are not animals, only our flesh is an animal, but we are possessed of higher functions.
Really? ???

Quotefor one, we are autonomous beings who only willingly relinquish control, even in the case of brain washing -- we make the conscious choice to allow our free will to be dominated by a view we didn't have prior to that point.  this is true, even as children. we make choices. those choices color our path.  at any point along our paths, we can and do change directions, but always as a result of our own choice.
All the above also applies to animals.

Sinny

Quote from: ArMaP on September 30, 2013, 09:18:20 AM
Really? ???
All the above also applies to animals.

Animals don't build temples and pray to 'God'.
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zorgon

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Quote from: Sinny on September 30, 2013, 10:39:37 AM
Animals don't build temples and pray to 'God'.



::)

zorgon


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Quote from: ArMaP on September 30, 2013, 09:18:20 AM
Really? ???
All the above also applies to animals.

to be fair, i have no evidence for or against the idea that animals can knowingly, deliberately and randomly (meaning not as a result of instinct) calculate things like this


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Quote from: undo11 on September 30, 2013, 11:38:43 AM
to be fair, i have no evidence for or against the idea that animals can knowingly, deliberately and randomly (meaning not as a result of instinct) calculate things like this



Hahahahahahahha.
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undo11

Quote from: Sinny on September 30, 2013, 12:23:58 PM
Hahahahahahahha.

the best part is when they tested the solid particle example with a detector that didn't have the magnetic tape to record the results, turned on, and it turned back into an interference pattern.  so it wasn't the detector that was solidifying tbe photons into solid matter, it was the conscious act of recording the evidence.   what a trip.
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Quote from: undo11 on September 30, 2013, 11:38:43 AM
to be fair, i have no evidence for or against the idea that animals can knowingly, deliberately and randomly (meaning not as a result of instinct) calculate things like this



Hahahahaha  ;D (OMG - Done it AGAIN!!)
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