Astronaut James McDivitt Filmed a UFO; Has The Picture Been Found?

Started by zorgon, October 05, 2013, 10:47:50 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: Somamech on October 05, 2013, 08:33:14 PM
Hehe  ;D

Whats the good of pic without a quick background check on who is being discussed to at least find out who this person was, and did back in the day ;)
The pic has the same value, regardless of the background of who took it. :)

ArMaP

The first link posted by sky otter (I do follow the links, sometimes ;) ) says this:

McDivitt has publicly denied having seen a aliencraft and states that the released picture was not the object that he saw.

Does that mean that there isn't a photo or that they didn't publish it? :)

sky otter




geeeeeeeze guys.. i posted the pic that was accreddited to him

hands in the air and shaking head as i walk away..

Z is right..

nobody reads nothin

:(

zorgon

Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
geeeeeeeze guys.. i posted the pic that was accreddited to him
Z is right..
nobody reads nothin

Your right.... you did :D


sky otter



opps..missed this one..it goes with the other blue one above

http://ronrecord.com/astronauts/white-mcdivitt.html






The object was yellow - white in color. In the transcript that follows McDivitt is reporting to the Capsule Communicator;


29 40 45 McDivitt: . . . Hawaii . . .
29 52 09 CC: Gemini 4, Guaymas CAP COM
29 52 12 McDivitt: Go ahead. Guaymas. Gemini 4.
29 52 14 CC: Roger. We've got you green, how are you doing up there ?
29 52 17 McDivitt: Fine. I just saw something else up here with me, but just as I was getting close enough to take a good picture the sun got in the way and l lost it.
29 52 26 CC: Roger. We got some flight plan changes for you. Want to stand by to copy ?
29 52 29 McDivitt: Yes. Stand by and let me see if I can find this thing again.
29 52 45 McDivitt: . . . and there are a great number of thunderstorms around at the present time. Lightning is actually lighting up the interior of the spacecraft... activity ...thunderstorms . . .
29 53 35 McDivitt: Okay. ,Go ahead. It doesn't look like I'm going to see him again.
29 57 09 CC: That's affirm --- you still looking at the thing up there ?
29 57 12 McDivitt: No I've lost it. It had big arms sticking out of it, it looked like. I only had it for just a minute. I got a couple of pictures with a movie camera and one with the Hasselblad; but I was in free drift, before I could get the control back I drifted and lost it.
29 57 29 CC: Good show.


McDivitt has publicly denied having seen a aliencraft and states that the released picture was not the object that he saw. The released picture was a light reflection off the copilot's window. McDivitt believes that what he saw was a manmade satellite which was probably not acknowledged for defence security reasons. Unlike many of the astronauts McDivitt has been willing to speak about his incident with the public and press.



zorgon

Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
Z is right..
nobody reads nothin

What happens a lot when posting is you read the posts in the thread... then go off to find stuff to make your next post and then post without rereading the posts to see what was added since you last read it.


Saw your post but didn't see the picture on the first run through  :-[

ArMaP

Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
Z is right..

nobody reads nothin

:(
The problem is that people, when reading text on a screen, read less than and faster than when reading text on paper, they prefer to skim the text, looking for things that catch their attention.

A link is just a link, with nothing to call the attention of the readers.

Maybe if you post it like this:
Photo of the UFO

instead of this:
http://ronrecord.com/astronauts/white-mcdivitt.html

:)

Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on October 05, 2013, 08:37:29 PM
Thing is this picture.... most likely it's NOT the one he saw, just one someone on the internet used. I posted it because it was interesting, and hopefully we can find the real picture... but if it's out of focus then it won't help us much anyway
I agree.  It is not an object but a processing "glitch".  I would be interested in the real picture he took.

In fact I'm interested in every single potentially anomalous picture ever taken by any astronaut or robotic camera that ever left the atmosphere.  Show me as many as you can all find please.  8)

sky otter


sorry not anomalous
but copyrighted pic of the first space walk
you must go to the link



http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/4541791353/in/photostream/


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.?NewerOlderEd White made the United States' first spacewalk on 3 June 1965 during the Gemini 4 mission. The extra-vehicular activity (EVA) started at 19:45 UT (3:45 p.m. EDT) on the third orbit when White opened his hatch and used the hand-held manuevering oxygen-jet gun to push himself out of the capsule. The EVA started over the Pacific Ocean near Hawaii and lasted 23 minutes, ending over the Gulf of Mexico. Initially, White propelled himself to the end of the 8 meter tether and back to the spacecraft three times using the hand-held gun. After the first three minutes the fuel ran out and White manuevered by twisting his body and pulling on the tether. The photographs were taken by commander James McDivitt 19:54 UT (3:54 p.m. EDT) Over New Mexico (NASA photo ID S65-30433)

Credit: NASA

NASA Goddard Space Flight Center is home to the nation's largest organization of combined scientists, engineers and technologists that build spacecraft, instruments and new technology to study the Earth, the sun, our solar system, and the universe.


sky otter

ok.. just this and i'm done


http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc600.htm

The Condon Report: Visual Observations Made by U. S. Astronauts - Unidentified Flying Objects
Franklin E. Roach, The Condon Report
original source |  fair use notice
      Summary: Section from the Condon Report detailing three sightings of UFOs by astronauts. 'There are three visual sightings made by the astronauts while in orbit which, in the judgment of the writer, have not been adequately explained.'


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There are three visual sightings made by the astronauts while in orbit which, in the judgment of the writer, have not been adequately explained. These are:

Gemini 4, astronaut McDivitt. Observation of a cylindrical object with a protuberance.

Gemini 4, astronaut McDivitt. Observation of a moving bright light at a higher level than the Gemini spacecraft.

Gemini 7, astronaut Borman saw what he referred to as a "bogey" flying in formation with the spacecraft.
1. Gemini 4, cylindrical object with protuberance.

Astronaut McDivitt described seeing at 3:00 CST, on 4 June 1965, a cylindrical object that appeared to have arms sticking out, a description suggesting a spacecraft with an antenna.

I had a conversation with astronaut McDivitt on 3 October 1967, about this sighting and reproduce here my summary of the conversation.

McDivitt saw a cylindrical-shaped object with an antenna-like extension. The appearance was something like the second phase of a Titan (not necessarily implying that that is actually what be saw) It was not possible to estimate its distance but it did have angular extension, that is it did not appear as a "point." It gave a white or silvery appearance as seen against the day sky. The spacecraft was in free drifting flight somewhere over the Pacific Ocean. One still picture was taken plus some movie exposures on black and white film. The impression was not that the object was moving parallel with the spacecraft but rather that it was closing in and that it was nearby. The reaction of the astronaut was that it might be necessary to take action to avoid a collision. The object was lost to view when the sun shone on the window (which was rather dirty). He tried to get the object back into view by maneuvering so the sun was not on the window but was not able to pick it up again.

When they landed , the film was sent from the carrier to land and was not seen again by McDivitt for four days. The NASA photo interpreter had released three or four pictures but McDivitt says that the pictures released were definitely not of the object he had seen. His personal inspection of the film later revealed what he bad seen although the quality of the image and of the blown-up point was such that the object was seen only "hazily" against the sky. But he feels that a positive identification had been made.

It is McDivitt's opinion that the object was probably some unmanned satellite. NORAD made an investigation of possible satellites and came up with the suggestion that the object might have been Pegasus which was 1200 miles away at the time. McDivitt questions this identification.

The NORAD computer facility's determination of the distances from GT-4 to other known objects in space at the time of the astronaut McDivitt's sighting yielded the following tabulation.

A preliminary identification of the object as Pegasus B is suspect. When fully extended Pegasus B has a maximum dimension of 29.3 meters, which corresponds to 1/20 minute of arc at a distance of 2000 km. This is much too small an angular extension for the structure of the craft to be resolved and thus does not agree with the description of "arms sticking out." Later in the mission Pegasus B was at a much more favorable distance (497 km.) from the Gemini 4 spacecraft or four times as close as during, the reported sighting. Astronauts McDivitt and White reported that they were not successful in a serious attempt to visually identify the Pegasus B satellite during this encounter.

The ten objects in addition to Pegasus B in the NORAD list were all at considerably greater distances away from GT-4 than an admittedly crude estimate of 10 miles (16 km.) made by McDivitt, and were of the same or smaller size than Pegasus B. They would not appear to be likely candidates for the object sighted by the astronaut.

2. Gemini 4, moving bright light, higher than spacecraft.

At 50h 58m 03s of elapsed time of GT-4, astronaut McDivitt made the following report.

Just saw a satellite, very high . . . spotted away just like a star on the ground when you see one go by, a long, long ways away. When I saw this satellite go by we were pointed just about directly overhead. It looked like it was going from left to right . . . back toward the west, so it must have been going from south to north.

Although McDivitt referred to this sighting as a satellite, I have included it among the puzzlers because it was higher than the GT-4 and moving in a polar orbit. It was reported as looking like a "star" so we have no indication of an angular extension.

The suggestion at the time of sighting that this was a satellite has not been confirmed, so far as I know, by a definite identification of a known satellite.

Conversations with McDivitt indicate that, on one other occasion, off the coast of China, he saw a "light" that was moving with respect to the star background. No details could be made out by him.

3. Gemini 7, "bogey."

Portions of the transcript (CT 7/6, tape 51, pages 4,5,6) from Gemini 7 are reproduced here. The following conversation took place between the spacecraft and the ground control at Houston and referred to a sighting at the start of the second revolution of the flight:


Spacecraft: Gemini 7 here, Houston how do you read?
Capcom: Loud and clear. 7, go ahead.
Spacecraft: Bogey at 10 o'clock high.
Capcom: This is Houston. Say again 7.
Spacecraft: Said we have a bogey at 10 o'clock high.
Capcom: Roger. Gemini 7., is that the booster or is that an actual sighting'?
Spacecraft: We have several, looks like debris up here. Actual sighting.
Capcom: You have any more information? Estimate distance or size?
Spacecraft: We also have the booster in sight.
Capcom: Understand you also have the booster in sight, Roger.
Spacecraft: Yea, we have a very, very many -- look like hundreds of little particles banked on the left out about 3 to 7 miles.
Capcom: Understand you have many small particles going by on the left. At what distance?
Spacecraft: Oh about -- it looks like a path of the vehicle at 90 degrees.
Capcom: Roger, understand that they are about 3 to 4 miles away.
Spacecraft: They are passed now they are in polar orbit.
Capcom: Roger, understand they were about 3 or 4 miles away.
Spacecraft: That's what it appeared like. That's roger.
Capcom: Were these particles in addition to the booster and the bogey at 10 o'clock high?
Spacecraft: Roger -- Spacecraft (Lovell) I have the booster on my side, it's a brilliant body in the sun, against a black background with trillions of particles on it.
Capcom: Roger. What direction is it from you?
Spacecraft: It's about at my 2 o'clock position. (Lovell)
Capcom: Does that mean that it's ahead of you?
Spacecraft: It's ahead of us at 2 o'clock, slowly tumbling.

The general reconstruction of the sighting based on the above conversation is that in addition to the booster travelling in an orbit similar to that of the spacecraft there was another bright object (bogey) together with many illuminated particles. It might be conjectured that the bogey and particles were fragments from the launching of Gemini 7, but this is impossible if they were travelling in a polar orbit as they appeared to the astronauts to be doing.

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The three unexplained sightings which have been gleaned from a great mass of reports are a challenge to the analyst. Especially puzzling is the first one on the list, the daytime sighting of an object showing details such as arms (antennas?) protruding from a body having a noticeable angular extension. If the NORAD listing of objects near the GT-4 spacecraft at the time of the sighting is complete as it presumably is, we shall have to find a rational explanation or, alternatively, keep it on our list of unidentifieds.

Read more articles on this topic:   http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/astronauts.htm


Pimander

Sorry Sky Otter, I didn't notice the link to the pic.  I also did not realise there were about five posts while I was trying to reply but getting side tracked by about four other things LOL  :-[

sky otter



geeze P.. you have to know by now that i ALWAYS add the link... :P

Somamech

Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 09:54:49 PM


geeeeeeeze guys.. i posted the pic that was accreddited to him

hands in the air and shaking head as i walk away..

Z is right..

nobody reads nothin

:(

Like I said to Armap in a round about way! ;)

I have never heard of this IMG before, and find it very conductive to find out his role in space.  Finding out he was sanctioned to speak on the brady bunch about UFO's is VERY Interesting!  ;D

Somamech

One thing this thread got me thinking about regarding Hamsters on Wheels in Low Earth Orbit is where are is all the spectuacular video footage/image's of meteorite's burning up in in Earth's Atmopshere taken from LEO? 

Given that it's not that hard to see a shooting star from one's backyard, along with the fact that the amount of Observation pointed back at earth from LEO is quite frankly abundant... one would think it would be easy to find such footage?   :o