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Why Anonymous are not to be trusted

Started by petrus4, October 21, 2013, 04:40:25 AM

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In this image we have Anonymous' logo on the left, and the United Nations logo on the right.  Notice any similarities?

I was reminded of this after seeing another post on Reddit, about the "Million Mask March," planned for next month, to occur on the Fifth of November.  Someone responded asking if he was the only one who was suspicious of Anonymous; and I replied no.

Is the March simply a form of protest?  Or is it designed to create a scenario where a large number of dissidents and aspirant revolutionaries will all be in one place, where they can then be conveniently tagged and bagged by the authorities?

http://rhizome.org/editorial/2011/nov/22/revolutionary-convergences-history-and-symbolism-a/

The above linked article discusses the symbolism not only of Anon's post-Chanology logo, but also offers an eerie explanation of the poster for Occupy Wall Street.  Said explanation implies that the imagery in both cases, was created by someone with a fairly intimate knowledge of Greco-Roman mythology and symbolism.

Gee.  I wonder who that could be?

"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

robomont

nice.this is why i like you petrus.sometimes you find a good one.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

Amaterasu

You may note that My pieces have their own logo having nothing to do with the UN.  Anonymous is amorphous.  Yes there are factions within that are trying to direct things, BUT...

They are not as in control as They think.  Many, like Me, choose to be anonymous without matching the precepts and goals of the "established" group.

Just because One chooses to be anonymous does NOT follow that They are aligned with any given faction.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

petrus4

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 21, 2013, 07:41:19 AM
You may note that My pieces have their own logo having nothing to do with the UN.  Anonymous is amorphous.  Yes there are factions within that are trying to direct things, BUT...

They are not as in control as They think.  Many, like Me, choose to be anonymous without matching the precepts and goals of the "established" group.

Just because One chooses to be anonymous does NOT follow that They are aligned with any given faction.

I will concede that, Amy. :D
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

robomont

now that tor has been cracked.i dont think there are any anonymouses.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

Amaterasu

Quote from: robomont on October 21, 2013, 12:30:27 PM
now that tor has been cracked.i dont think there are any anonymouses.

Wouldn't know that looking at Twitter...
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Sinny

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 21, 2013, 07:41:19 AM
You may note that My pieces have their own logo having nothing to do with the UN.  Anonymous is amorphous.  Yes there are factions within that are trying to direct things, BUT...

They are not as in control as They think.  Many, like Me, choose to be anonymous without matching the precepts and goals of the "established" group.

Just because One chooses to be anonymous does NOT follow that They are aligned with any given faction.

Gold.

TPTB will attempt to subvert every movement we have, it is up to use to ensure our own success.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

Logos

Anonymous isn't doing anything meaningful. It's just another psyop wherein the media/gov't octopus pretends to oppose itself.

It's right up there with Wikileaks, and the Julian Assange & Edward Snow'd 'Em actors & psyops.

Glaucon

Quote from: Logos on November 14, 2014, 08:34:40 AM
Anonymous isn't doing anything meaningful. It's just another psyop wherein the media/gov't octopus pretends to oppose itself.

It's right up there with Wikileaks, and the Julian Assange & Edward Snow'd 'Em actors & psyops.
It's an organization of politically like minded hacktivists . They believe they're doing all they can for whatever it is they believe in.

You have to be extremely careful with this "psyop" stuff.

From my perspective, your curiosity in "psyops" and what the nature of the threat  is....quite literally makes you employ precisely what you perceive you're protecting yourself from. 
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 21, 2013, 07:41:19 AM
They are not as in control as They think.  Many, like Me, choose to be anonymous without matching the precepts and goals of the "established" group.

So your saying your an Anonymous Anonymous?   :o

QuoteJust because One chooses to be anonymous does NOT follow that They are aligned with any given faction.

Then what is the point? And what cause do you march for? And how are your goals going to fare without conflicting with the goals of the "established" group.?

I am confused. How can you claim to be part of a group but say your not part of that group?

::)

zorgon

Quote from: Sinny on June 21, 2014, 11:09:38 AM
TPTB will attempt to subvert every movement we have, it is up to use to ensure our own success.

Success at WHAT exactly? I am told Anonymous has no set purpose... just general chaos and protesting anything and everything, some hackers, some that have no idea why they are there other than its the latest trend. (that makes them sheep :P )


WarToad

The poor and powerless always want to throw bricks and break things.  Different decade, same old schtick.
Time is the fire in which we burn.

Sinny

Quote from: zorgon on November 14, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
Success at WHAT exactly? I am told Anonymous has no set purpose... just general chaos and protesting anything and everything, some hackers, some that have no idea why they are there other than its the latest trend. (that makes them sheep :P )



And everyone using the term 'sheep' sounds like sheep to, BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

But you are on your last incarnation here - what would I know?!


"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

zorgon

#13
Quote from: Sinny on November 14, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
And everyone using the term 'sheep' sounds like sheep to, BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

The term "Sheep" generally applies to any large group that follow any old leader without knowing why they are following that leader.  If you listen to many of those interviewed in the Million Mask March  you will find many lost sheep

For ANY organization to be viable and actually get anything done, it MUST have a focused purpose and work as a UNIT to achieve that purpose

You cannot change the world for the better with anarchy.  You may THINK you can but I am willing to bet that those touting anarchy will be the first to run for cover if it came  :P



QuoteBut you are on your last incarnation here - what would I know?!

Maybe I stop by to Haunt you   :P  Besides I said John was on his last time  I have one to go   8)

Logos

Quote from: Glaucon on November 14, 2014, 08:57:30 AM
It's an organization of politically like minded hacktivists . They believe they're doing all they can for whatever it is they believe in.

You have to be extremely careful with this "psyop" stuff.

From my perspective, your curiosity in "psyops" and what the nature of the threat  is....quite literally makes you employ precisely what you perceive you're protecting yourself from.
IOW, just assume it's what the media says it is?  ::) That Anonymous gets the kind of media coverage it does speaks volumes about what it is--and isn't.