Joint decision

[Elvis Hendrix]

Why would someone want to leave Peggy?
You silly billy.

[Anthra]

Question... can you post while high? or will Pegasus become deserted

Yes, absolutely!

[robomont]

sinny the seed co is in yalls country.only order stealth or the seeds will not grow.auto flower is fine but you got to keep buying their seed.thats why i buy regular and cull the males.my fav co is marijuana seeds nl.always good price and reliable.no games.auto flower is twice the price of reg.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I live in Holland, remember?

1 gram of anything they grow over here, taken at once, will blow your head off

Dutch weed has been classed as a 'class A drug' in the U.K.

You ever see that documentary where this kid had a nervous disease (similar to Stephen Hawking) who is confined to a wheelchair....

Once a month, he takes an Ectsasy pill, with parental consent, & he jumps out of his wheelcchair, walks, talks, moves, like the rest of us

Then the drugs wear off & he turns into a cabbage again.
Really sad to watch............

Doctors are still trying to discover why that particular drug works the way it does, most of them shun it simply because it's 'illegal' yet they know very little about it, for that very same reason.

A lesson to us all: Study the product, before you buy it

[Fruitbat]

author=zorgon
Question... can you post while high? or will Pegasus become deserted

It will continue exactly as it is now... :c)

And if they legalise it according to strength, I'm quids in, I can get ten joints to a gram and make a gram last two days. And that so called dank skunk is NOTHING compared to a half decent hashish when it comes to quality of high and flavour..

(So it is said)

FB.

[rdunk]

A lot of issues on this general subject have been discussed here before. There are multiple "public cancers" associated with recreational drugs, and there is not an acceptable "cure" for any of them. But in the end, any real success must be with actions that address the ranking "cancers" (problems).

In my opinion, "half-assed" addressing any aspect of this very real problem, will result similarly with "half-assed" results!!!

Take this as a for instance: The illegal organized drug trafficking is absolutely a NUMBER 1 PHYSICAL CANCER ON THE BUTT OF THIS WORLD!! This cancer will not be successfully addressed by simply charging a slightly lower "competitive price" for the marijuana, such as is the noted action by Uruguay - ie "Lawmakers have agreed at an initial price of $1 per gram of the drug, a price that aims to compete with the illegal market value, which currently stands at around $1.40 for a gram". The real price to the public must be at a very very low level to drive/force the illegals totally out of business.

Sure, low priced drugs may squeeze out the illegal traffickers, but this drug balloon can stretch out to cheap drugs, making it easier for the public buy and use, even with more people using - yep, an already existing cancer to deal with in new ways that can produce significant reductions in users.
 
ETC! ETC! ETC!

Much needs to be done relative to all such drugs, and it needs to be done in a way that successfully addresses every aspect of the problem(s). 

[robomont]

militias were strong because of alcohol tax.then the gov caim in and taxed it.militias died.to much money in black markets.and legal ones when it comes to weed.uraquays dollar gram would flood the market and take the profit out of it.as far as i can see.this is the best way.heaven on earth.only they arent going far enough.they are only growing twenty hectars.that is not enough to flood the market and hold at that level for a year.

[Anthra]

On the medical use, I've seem little mention here. In just this last year the primary reason for smoking, for me anyway, has shifted somewhat. I still enjoy it for recreational purpose, and of course for its "focus" enhancement properties, but, I've come to appreciate what are in reality it more important properties.

Weed lowers my blood sugar, and at the same time seems to be controlling blood insulin levels.
It helps to regulate intra-ocular pressure; helping to preserve my crappy eye sight.
It helps to regulate blood pressure.
It appears to suppress the onset of Alzheimer's and may prevent it.
It helps to make arthritis tolerable.

The whole idea of though of "government weed" reminds me of my college days and "Pakistani Hash" complete with "Government seal"...
Had for a while an ounce; about 3 inch "puck" with Pakistan government sear embossed in it.

[Amaterasu]

A lot of issues on this general subject have been discussed here before. There are multiple "public cancers" associated with recreational drugs, and there is not an acceptable "cure" for any of them. But in the end, any real success must be with actions that address the ranking "cancers" (problems).

What cancers are these?  The only problems *I* see are the ones created by prohibition:

• Turf wars
  
• Adulterated product
  
• Police corruption
  
• People who cause no problems but are caught possessing thrown out of functional contribution into prison, destroying families, and lives
  
• Pushing to children
  
• Police in "war zones"
  
• Disenfranchisement
  
• Distrust of police (before the drug war We had friendly neighborhood cops - now We have pigs)
  
• Vast amounts spent on incarceration (to the profit of the prison industrial complex profiteers)
  

In my opinion, "half-assed" addressing any aspect of this very real problem, will result similarly with "half-assed" results!!!

Take this as a for instance: The illegal organized drug trafficking is absolutely a NUMBER 1 PHYSICAL CANCER ON THE BUTT OF THIS WORLD!! This cancer will not be successfully addressed by simply charging a slightly lower "competitive price" for the marijuana, such as is the noted action by Uruguay - ie "Lawmakers have agreed at an initial price of $1 per gram of the drug, a price that aims to compete with the illegal market value, which currently stands at around $1.40 for a gram". The real price to the public must be at a very very low level to drive/force the illegals totally out of business.

Sure, low priced drugs may squeeze out the illegal traffickers, but this drug balloon can stretch out to cheap drugs, making it easier for the public buy and use, even with more people using - yep, an already existing cancer to deal with in new ways that can produce significant reductions in users.

What "already existing cancer?"  Using drugs?  Before the drug war, maybe .01% chose hard drugs - that increased dramatically after the "war" was declared.  The cannabis users are NOT a problem.  Period.
 

ETC! ETC! ETC!

Much needs to be done relative to all such drugs, and it needs to be done in a way that successfully addresses every aspect of the problem(s). 

Define the problem(s) beyond prohibition...

[Elvis Hendrix]

Amy that post was a hunka hunka burnin love girl.
Have some smokey gold .

[ArMaP]

What cancers are these?  The only problems *I* see are the ones created by prohibition:

Most of those problems were removed in Portugal when possession of drugs was decriminalized. Users are not arrested, they are sent to social services, where they are presented with the option of getting treatment or not, drug sellers are arrested, as selling is still a crime.

When I think about it, I haven't seen someone with that typical drug addict look in my town for some three years.

[Amaterasu]

Amy that post was a hunka hunka burnin love girl.
Have some smokey gold .

Thanks, Elvis!  Another gold that I know why I got it!

Sadly, My gold total is no longer gross.  [grin]

[rdunk]

I thought anyone not high already, would understand what the cancers relative to drugs are - it is all of the problems you want to drum up relative to the recreational drugs, for both users and non-users.

"Gazillions" of robberies  of non-users (and users) occur each year, by people hooked on whatever, trying to find money for that next hit. That is a huge huge cancer!

Then after being hooked long enough on some of them, then it is off to the hospitals and psyco wards, with families trying to get help for their addict relatives. Actually, there are "industries" devoted to trying to help those who are unable to help themselves. Huge cancer!

Gang and mob related cancers!

Huge waste of law enforcement resources at every level, including incarceration - huge cancer.

People killed and injured in accidents related to recreational drug use.

The extreme and unknowable wast of financial resources for just the use of drugs - huge cancer!

And on and on ad infinitum! And whether anyone admits to it or not, drug use can be worse for a user than most any real cancer, because drugs deal directly with the brain!! And that is where it all starts, and in many cases that is where it ends, for the user

I saw first hand the law enforcement/drug user cancesr several years ago, while serving on a county grand jury for six months. Probably 75% of the "business" conducted by the grand jury was drug related.

[Fruitbat]

So, Rdunk you've never used drugs, nor do you have any friends who do then?

Apart from alcohol, cigarettes, tranquillisers etc, which aren't really "drugs" are they?

So you are talking about ILLEGAL drugs, must be.

That would be stuff like ecstasy and cannabis, then. Shall we go and get some facts about which destroys more lives?

Cannabis toxicity no known fatal dose. Alcohol toxicity well known to kill directly and indirectly many many thousands of people per year.
Ecstasy toxicity 10 deaths in the eight years when it was REALLY popular, shall we compare its safety  to any drug you'd care to find in the chemists? Especially when you factor in the completely unregulated doses, strengths and consistencies of the street drug plus the lack of qualifications on behalf of the administering non-physicians.

Drugs are a classic example of complete bullshit being accepted as fact by an ignorant public, and where the acquisition of sufficient facts and experience to refute the lies is and illegal act in and of itself.

The "cancer" you speak of in the main is caused by the illegality and ignorance and not the substance itself I think you will find.

FB.

[deuem]

pot is like UFOs, everything you have been told is a lie.

The Alcohol companies lobbied DC to get it off the market because they were going to lose BIG money. Big Booze won. Pot died. It went black. Pot is natural, Booze is man made.

I have lost many friends to booze. None to pot.

Now I haven't even seen it in almost 30 years and you go straight to jail here for having any but it is mother natures little helper. Booze kills.......

The Ecstacy here kills also. People make it and get it wrong. Would not touch it with a 100 meter pole. But I have seen it at the younger people discos. I think I am too old to even think about it now. But I will say that when I was young it was legal and I saw no problems. People want what is not and they go after it.....